Strummer Jones wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 09:52 am
He runs fast and he can go pick it in the outfield. And that was good enough for me.
But his noodle bat this spring just doesn't justify his spot on the team, not when there's people performing better offensively with a relatively small defensive downgrade.
Considering the other defensive liabilities the Cards gave major innings in the outfield last year (Jordan Walker, Burleson) and the teams general lack of K stuff from the pitchers, Siani made alot of sense. Had the rest of the lineup hit like it was supposed to, you can hide his bat.
Hes the exact type of ‘developmental’ Guy fans have been clamoring for the team to look for: a guy with a defined MLB skill that could stick with some development. He’s only 1 year older than V Scott and i don’t sacrificing some at bats to see if he ‘can it out’ at the plate. Especially if it gives VSIII the proper development time he needs for long term staying power.
But that glove definitely plays at the MLB level.
I don't disagree, I think he's a player who has some value that we could exploit, but the bat just isn't there. I guess my feelings depend on some things.
1.) What the heck are we doing this year? Are we developing and not caring about our record? If so, I don't mind giving a little bit of time to see if Siani can continue to build his bat. Because the defense and the speed are elite. I could see him getting to So Taguchi levels of productivity.
2.) Are we trying to compete? Because if we are, then we probably at this point shouldn't rely on Siani to take up a ton of AB's in the outfield mix. Defensive substitution, pinch running, or 1-2 starts a week.
I feel like Siani CAN contribute in some way, but if the team would just pick a lane, they'd know how to better utilize him.
All glove, no hit players are all over minor league baseball which is where Sinai belongs.
VSII needs to be in CF on OD!
You cannot believe everything you see in spring training. When my sons played juvenile, the coach put a player at the bottom of the lineup and all he attempted to do was bunt because the lack of hitting skills were obvious. Siani reminds me of that same scenario. He may be a defensive replacement, but the Cardinals need players who May stand a chance of getting the hit. Siani does not. To start him in the bigs would be nothing but working against themselves.
All glove, no hit players are all over minor league baseball which is where Sinai belongs.
VSII needs to be in CF on OD!
You cannot believe everything you see in spring training. When my sons played juvenile, the coach put a player at the bottom of the lineup and all he attempted to do was bunt because the lack of hitting skills were obvious. Siani reminds me of that same scenario. He may be a defensive replacement, but the Cardinals need players who May stand a chance of getting the hit. Siani does not. To start him in the bigs would be nothing but working against themselves.
Vic is the same player as Siani except he's younger so the dream that he improves as a hitter is still alive.
Vic had a good ST last year, made the team, was terrible, and was sent to AAA where he could generously be described as "not good". Until he can prove he can hit pitchers above AA, he needs to get reps in the minors.
Noot will start the year as the CFer and Siani is the no-brainer choice to be the backup CFer/defensive replacement. If Noot doesn't work for whatever reason, you look at what Vic is doing at AAA and make the decision then.
All glove, no hit players are all over minor league baseball which is where Sinai belongs.
VSII needs to be in CF on OD!
You cannot believe everything you see in spring training. When my sons played juvenile, the coach put a player at the bottom of the lineup and all he attempted to do was bunt because the lack of hitting skills were obvious. Siani reminds me of that same scenario. He may be a defensive replacement, but the Cardinals need players who May stand a chance of getting the hit. Siani does not. To start him in the bigs would be nothing but working against themselves.
Strummer Jones wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 09:52 am
He runs fast and he can go pick it in the outfield. And that was good enough for me.
But his noodle bat this spring just doesn't justify his spot on the team, not when there's people performing better offensively with a relatively small defensive downgrade.
Considering the other defensive liabilities the Cards gave major innings in the outfield last year (Jordan Walker, Burleson) and the teams general lack of K stuff from the pitchers, Siani made alot of sense. Had the rest of the lineup hit like it was supposed to, you can hide his bat.
Hes the exact type of ‘developmental’ Guy fans have been clamoring for the team to look for: a guy with a defined MLB skill that could stick with some development. He’s only 1 year older than V Scott and i don’t sacrificing some at bats to see if he ‘can it out’ at the plate. Especially if it gives VSIII the proper development time he needs for long term staying power.
But that glove definitely plays at the MLB level.
I don't disagree, I think he's a player who has some value that we could exploit, but the bat just isn't there. I guess my feelings depend on some things.
1.) What the heck are we doing this year? Are we developing and not caring about our record? If so, I don't mind giving a little bit of time to see if Siani can continue to build his bat. Because the defense and the speed are elite. I could see him getting to So Taguchi levels of productivity.
2.) Are we trying to compete? Because if we are, then we probably at this point shouldn't rely on Siani to take up a ton of AB's in the outfield mix. Defensive substitution, pinch running, or 1-2 starts a week.
I feel like Siani CAN contribute in some way, but if the team would just pick a lane, they'd know how to better utilize him.
1. If the goal isn't to win as many games as possible then they should just forfeit the season and concentrate everything on minor league baseball. Losing on purpose is something disgraceful teams do. It's an insult to all fans that follow the team.
2. Siani has no business on the team. Whatever he gives in defense is easily taken away at the plate. At this rate, just have him stand at the plate and not swing. He's that inept.
3. There are so many other options and all they cost is a little money. Why in the world would a decent baseball organization put someone like that on the field. Even Cincy, that bastion of winning and competing let him go. He makes a few good catches in CF and all of a sudden some are creaming their jeans about him. It's sickening.
All glove, no hit players are all over minor league baseball which is where Sinai belongs.
VSII needs to be in CF on OD!
Indeed. And they wouldn't cost any more! I agree, put Scott in CF and leave him alone. Let the man perform. Let his talent shine on the big league stage. No more Siani, please.
All glove, no hit players are all over minor league baseball which is where Sinai belongs.
VSII needs to be in CF on OD!
You cannot believe everything you see in spring training. When my sons played juvenile, the coach put a player at the bottom of the lineup and all he attempted to do was bunt because the lack of hitting skills were obvious. Siani reminds me of that same scenario. He may be a defensive replacement, but the Cardinals need players who May stand a chance of getting the hit. Siani does not. To start him in the bigs would be nothing but working against themselves.
Vic is the same player as Siani except he's younger so the dream that he improves as a hitter is still alive.
Vic had a good ST last year, made the team, was terrible, and was sent to AAA where he could generously be described as "not good". Until he can prove he can hit pitchers above AA, he needs to get reps in the minors.
Noot will start the year as the CFer and Siani is the no-brainer choice to be the backup CFer/defensive replacement. If Noot doesn't work for whatever reason, you look at what Vic is doing at AAA and make the decision then.
You're kidding right? Scott has more talent on his worst day than Siani has had in his entire career. This guy couldn't even stick in Cincy. Yet the Cards "snapped" him up after his release. LOL You put Scott in CF and play him. I remember their was once this player called up "short term" and the Cards never looked back. His name was Coleman. Vince Coleman. He made theft legal again in St. Louis. LOL
All glove, no hit players are all over minor league baseball which is where Sinai belongs.
VSII needs to be in CF on OD!
Indeed. And they wouldn't cost any more! I agree, put Scott in CF and leave him alone. Let the man perform. Let his talent shine on the big league stage. No more Siani, please.
It's really a simple question CCard:
"Who's the future of this team, VSII or Sinai"?
The easy answer is: "VSII"
Agreed, no more Sinai except for late inning defense when we have a lead which is his only value (he doesn't get on enough to steal anymore than VSII).
CCard wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 09:07 am
Surely there are better options. Why not Scott? Siani is the perfect example of an all field no hit player. The time he's getting playing is taking away from other options. Hell, move Noot to center and play any of the young options in left. Koperniak, Church, or put Donovan in left and try Prieto at 2nd. Siani is a dead spot in the lineup. He couldn't hang in Cincy and his offense is dragging down the Cards too. Please, enough with the Siani playing time.
Do people need to explain ST to you?
Was it ST when he played last year? S[top] T[hose] F[raudulent] U[tterances]
Maybe scouty thinks the 2024 season was also spring training!
Snouty doesn’t think anything. That has and always will be his problem.
All glove, no hit players are all over minor league baseball which is where Sinai belongs.
VSII needs to be in CF on OD!
You cannot believe everything you see in spring training. When my sons played juvenile, the coach put a player at the bottom of the lineup and all he attempted to do was bunt because the lack of hitting skills were obvious. Siani reminds me of that same scenario. He may be a defensive replacement, but the Cardinals need players who May stand a chance of getting the hit. Siani does not. To start him in the bigs would be nothing but working against themselves.
Vic is the same player as Siani except he's younger so the dream that he improves as a hitter is still alive.
Vic had a good ST last year, made the team, was terrible, and was sent to AAA where he could generously be described as "not good". Until he can prove he can hit pitchers above AA, he needs to get reps in the minors.
Noot will start the year as the CFer and Siani is the no-brainer choice to be the backup CFer/defensive replacement. If Noot doesn't work for whatever reason, you look at what Vic is doing at AAA and make the decision then.
You're kidding right? Scott has more talent on his worst day than Siani has had in his entire career. This guy couldn't even stick in Cincy. Yet the Cards "snapped" him up after his release. LOL You put Scott in CF and play him. I remember their was once this player called up "short term" and the Cards never looked back. His name was Coleman. Vince Coleman. He made theft legal again in St. Louis. LOL
You need to go back and look at his AAA numbers from last year. .294 OBP and .600 OPS. His ML numbers were God awful and I wouldn't embarrass him by posting them here.
Siani today is the better defender and hopefully Scott will continue to develop and become a better player than Coleman. That's what I want to see. But if Noot is your starting CFer, you put Scott in AAA to get the reps and show improvement over last year while Siani is your defensive replacement. If Scott shows he can hit AAA pitching, then you can look at bringing him up if for some reason the starting CFer job is open.
The idea you just annoint some young player a ML starter and by just "playing him" in the Majors is somehow the best option in every case is ludicrous.
Strummer Jones wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 09:52 am
He runs fast and he can go pick it in the outfield. And that was good enough for me.
But his noodle bat this spring just doesn't justify his spot on the team, not when there's people performing better offensively with a relatively small defensive downgrade.
Considering the other defensive liabilities the Cards gave major innings in the outfield last year (Jordan Walker, Burleson) and the teams general lack of K stuff from the pitchers, Siani made alot of sense. Had the rest of the lineup hit like it was supposed to, you can hide his bat.
Hes the exact type of ‘developmental’ Guy fans have been clamoring for the team to look for: a guy with a defined MLB skill that could stick with some development. He’s only 1 year older than V Scott and i don’t sacrificing some at bats to see if he ‘can it out’ at the plate. Especially if it gives VSIII the proper development time he needs for long term staying power.
But that glove definitely plays at the MLB level.
I don't disagree, I think he's a player who has some value that we could exploit, but the bat just isn't there. I guess my feelings depend on some things.
1.) What the heck are we doing this year? Are we developing and not caring about our record? If so, I don't mind giving a little bit of time to see if Siani can continue to build his bat. Because the defense and the speed are elite. I could see him getting to So Taguchi levels of productivity.
2.) Are we trying to compete? Because if we are, then we probably at this point shouldn't rely on Siani to take up a ton of AB's in the outfield mix. Defensive substitution, pinch running, or 1-2 starts a week.
I feel like Siani CAN contribute in some way, but if the team would just pick a lane, they'd know how to better utilize him.
We're pretty much aligned.
For me, the primary difference is that, especially for THIS season, I look at VSIII's development track as a primary objective for the team and that is independent from Siani's level of play. And if he's not ready, dont force into MLB just because Siani sucks.
Even if we're trying to compete, I can live with giving Siani 'the runway' of MLB development time first due to the glove (which VSIII stills needs work on). As you stated, you move Noot (or Barrero) to CF and use Siani for defensive purposes as time goes on. Its sink or swim time for him, and maybe he hits enough to prove himself a worthy glove first starter or just a defensive 4th/5th outfielder.
Just like I wouldnt rush Matthews or Roby because Miles M or Matz are getting lit up, I'm not doing the same for VSIII.
All glove, no hit players are all over minor league baseball which is where Sinai belongs.
VSII needs to be in CF on OD!
You cannot believe everything you see in spring training. When my sons played juvenile, the coach put a player at the bottom of the lineup and all he attempted to do was bunt because the lack of hitting skills were obvious. Siani reminds me of that same scenario. He may be a defensive replacement, but the Cardinals need players who May stand a chance of getting the hit. Siani does not. To start him in the bigs would be nothing but working against themselves.
Vic is the same player as Siani except he's younger so the dream that he improves as a hitter is still alive.
Vic had a good ST last year, made the team, was terrible, and was sent to AAA where he could generously be described as "not good". Until he can prove he can hit pitchers above AA, he needs to get reps in the minors.
Noot will start the year as the CFer and Siani is the no-brainer choice to be the backup CFer/defensive replacement. If Noot doesn't work for whatever reason, you look at what Vic is doing at AAA and make the decision then.
You're kidding right? Scott has more talent on his worst day than Siani has had in his entire career. This guy couldn't even stick in Cincy. Yet the Cards "snapped" him up after his release. LOL You put Scott in CF and play him. I remember their was once this player called up "short term" and the Cards never looked back. His name was Coleman. Vince Coleman. He made theft legal again in St. Louis. LOL
You need to go back and look at his AAA numbers from last year. .294 OBP and .600 OPS. His ML numbers were God awful and I wouldn't embarrass him by posting them here.
Siani today is the better defender and hopefully Scott will continue to develop and become a better player than Coleman. That's what I want to see. But if Noot is your starting CFer, you put Scott in AAA to get the reps and show improvement over last year while Siani is your defensive replacement. If Scott shows he can hit AAA pitching, then you can look at bringing him up if for some reason the starting CFer job is open.
The idea you just annoint some young player a ML starter and by just "playing him" in the Majors is somehow the best option in every case is ludicrous.
I state it again for the hearing impaired. Siani has no business being on this team. There are better options. Just stop with the Siani love. It's sickening. Scott may pan out, he may not, but Siani isn't even in the realm.
