Cardinals spring team offensive rankings

[Goldfan]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Unreal.
They have a rebuild with no material to build from.
I mean all their supposed "Young Talent" suck big donkey
It's pathetic.

The cupboard has some pieces in it but Mo and his inept minor league player development system has wasted years of draft picks.

Doesn’t seem like a serious baseball org does it…..wonder what Bloom really thinks about this situation

From what Bernie reported last season he told BDWJr straight up he'd never seen a bigger mess and a franchise so far behind most of MLB.

But he spent all last season (and now 2025) fixing the mess, Rob Cerfolio was a great hire by Bloom and he's on it now.

I’ve been saying the same thing since I logged on in 2019 and I didn’t know the extent of the minor league mess…..
The Happy Homers let me know how often MO had won the NL Central
As I’ve said often….BDW/MO thought they were the secret sauce and didn’t need a true Farm Director, Analytics guru, Manager, or pitching coach
The Jerry Jones of STL……and here we are.
Mo would find cast away SP and Dunc would turn them into All-stars
Tony would strong arm BDW/MO to get the correct winning player collection
Luhnow stocked the minors for years
And once all that worked out of the system there was nothing left but 2 arrogant idiots

[thetank2]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Unreal.
They have a rebuild with no material to build from.
I mean all their supposed "Young Talent" suck big donkey
It's pathetic.

The cupboard has some pieces in it but Mo and his inept minor league player development system has wasted years of draft picks.

Doesn’t seem like a serious baseball org does it…..wonder what Bloom really thinks about this situation

From what Bernie reported last season he told BDWJr straight up he'd never seen a bigger mess and a franchise so far behind most of MLB.

But he spent all last season (and now 2025) fixing the mess, Rob Cerfolio was a great hire by Bloom and he's on it now.

I’ve been saying the same thing since I logged on in 2019 and I didn’t know the extent of the minor league mess…..
The Happy Homers let me know how often MO had won the NL Central
As I’ve said often….BDW/MO thought they were the secret sauce and didn’t need a true Farm Director, Analytics guru, Manager, or pitching coach
The Jerry Jones of STL……and here we are.
Mo would find cast away SP and Dunc would turn them into All-stars
Tony would strong arm BDW/MO to get the correct winning player collection
Luhnow stocked the minors for years
And once all that worked out of the system there was nothing left but 2 arrogant idiots

Oh please!! Someone like you running the team would make things worse.

[Banner29]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Unreal.
They have a rebuild with no material to build from.
I mean all their supposed "Young Talent" suck big donkey
It's pathetic.

The cupboard has some pieces in it but Mo and his inept minor league player development system has wasted years of draft picks.

Doesn’t seem like a serious baseball org does it…..wonder what Bloom really thinks about this situation

From what Bernie reported last season he told BDWJr straight up he'd never seen a bigger mess and a franchise so far behind most of MLB.

But he spent all last season (and now 2025) fixing the mess, Rob Cerfolio was a great hire by Bloom and he's on it now.

I’ve been saying the same thing since I logged on in 2019 and I didn’t know the extent of the minor league mess…..
The Happy Homers let me know how often MO had won the NL Central
As I’ve said often….BDW/MO thought they were the secret sauce and didn’t need a true Farm Director, Analytics guru, Manager, or pitching coach
The Jerry Jones of STL……and here we are.
Mo would find cast away SP and Dunc would turn them into All-stars
Tony would strong arm BDW/MO to get the correct winning player collection
Luhnow stocked the minors for years
And once all that worked out of the system there was nothing left but 2 arrogant idiots

Oh please!! Someone like you running the team would make things worse.

What does that have to do with the facts that he just stated?

[Goldfan]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Unreal.
They have a rebuild with no material to build from.
I mean all their supposed "Young Talent" suck big donkey
It's pathetic.

The cupboard has some pieces in it but Mo and his inept minor league player development system has wasted years of draft picks.

Doesn’t seem like a serious baseball org does it…..wonder what Bloom really thinks about this situation

From what Bernie reported last season he told BDWJr straight up he'd never seen a bigger mess and a franchise so far behind most of MLB.

But he spent all last season (and now 2025) fixing the mess, Rob Cerfolio was a great hire by Bloom and he's on it now.

I’ve been saying the same thing since I logged on in 2019 and I didn’t know the extent of the minor league mess…..
The Happy Homers let me know how often MO had won the NL Central
As I’ve said often….BDW/MO thought they were the secret sauce and didn’t need a true Farm Director, Analytics guru, Manager, or pitching coach
The Jerry Jones of STL……and here we are.
Mo would find cast away SP and Dunc would turn them into All-stars
Tony would strong arm BDW/MO to get the correct winning player collection
Luhnow stocked the minors for years
And once all that worked out of the system there was nothing left but 2 arrogant idiots

Oh please!! Someone like you running the team would make things worse.

What does that have to do with the facts that he just stated?

The “It’s not a turd, its a diamond” crowd strains their toilet daily for riches……lol:

[rockondlouie]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Unreal.
They have a rebuild with no material to build from.
I mean all their supposed "Young Talent" suck big donkey
It's pathetic.

The cupboard has some pieces in it but Mo and his inept minor league player development system has wasted years of draft picks.

Doesn’t seem like a serious baseball org does it…..wonder what Bloom really thinks about this situation

From what Bernie reported last season he told BDWJr straight up he'd never seen a bigger mess and a franchise so far behind most of MLB.

But he spent all last season (and now 2025) fixing the mess, Rob Cerfolio was a great hire by Bloom and he's on it now.

I’ve been saying the same thing since I logged on in 2019 and I didn’t know the extent of the minor league mess…..
The Happy Homers let me know how often MO had won the NL Central
As I’ve said often….BDW/MO thought they were the secret sauce and didn’t need a true Farm Director, Analytics guru, Manager, or pitching coach
The Jerry Jones of STL……and here we are.
Mo would find cast away SP and Dunc would turn them into All-stars
Tony would strong arm BDW/MO to get the correct winning player collection
Luhnow stocked the minors for years
And once all that worked out of the system there was nothing left but 2 arrogant idiots

Same here, been saying Mo was "past his expiration date" for many years.

And I've been placing the blame for this debacle square on the shoulders of BDWJr, for keeping Mo in place for too long, for many years as well.

Spot on about TLR, Luhnow and how Dewitt & Mo road Albert, Yadi and Waino's coattails for years.

Once they were all gone, their ineptness took the team to where it is today.

[CCard]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Unreal.
They have a rebuild with no material to build from.
I mean all their supposed "Young Talent" suck big donkey
It's pathetic.

The cupboard has some pieces in it but Mo and his inept minor league player development system has wasted years of draft picks.

Yeah, it's pretty bad though.
They have next to nothing to work with.
It will take years to acquire and nurture some talent.

LOL...You got a bridge you want to sell. This team won 83 games last year. They have some talent, just needed some added talent to get them over the hump but ownership has deemed that they'd rather make excuses than win.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Unreal.
They have a rebuild with no material to build from.
I mean all their supposed "Young Talent" suck big donkey
It's pathetic.

The cupboard has some pieces in it but Mo and his inept minor league player development system has wasted years of draft picks.

Doesn’t seem like a serious baseball org does it…..wonder what Bloom really thinks about this situation

From what Bernie reported last season he told BDWJr straight up he'd never seen a bigger mess and a franchise so far behind most of MLB.

But he spent all last season (and now 2025) fixing the mess, Rob Cerfolio was a great hire by Bloom and he's on it now.

I’ve been saying the same thing since I logged on in 2019 and I didn’t know the extent of the minor league mess…..
The Happy Homers let me know how often MO had won the NL Central
As I’ve said often….BDW/MO thought they were the secret sauce and didn’t need a true Farm Director, Analytics guru, Manager, or pitching coach
The Jerry Jones of STL……and here we are.
Mo would find cast away SP and Dunc would turn them into All-stars
Tony would strong arm BDW/MO to get the correct winning player collection
Luhnow stocked the minors for years
And once all that worked out of the system there was nothing left but 2 arrogant idiots

Oh please!! Someone like you running the team would make things worse.

What does that have to do with the facts that he just stated?

The “It’s not a turd, its a diamond” crowd strains their toilet daily for riches……lol:

Isn’t that the same thing as panning for gold.

[Bully4you]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Unreal.
They have a rebuild with no material to build from.
I mean all their supposed "Young Talent" suck big donkey
It's pathetic.

The cupboard has some pieces in it but Mo and his inept minor league player development system has wasted years of draft picks.

Yeah, it's pretty bad though.
They have next to nothing to work with.
It will take years to acquire and nurture some talent.

LOL...You got a bridge you want to sell. This team won 83 games last year. They have some talent, just needed some added talent to get them over the hump but ownership has deemed that they'd rather make excuses than win.

Did you check their run diff last year.
Their record is a fluke and all luck.
They should have been in the 70's for wins.
Lady luck was on their side, but not this year.

[thetank2]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Unreal.
They have a rebuild with no material to build from.
I mean all their supposed "Young Talent" suck big donkey
It's pathetic.

The cupboard has some pieces in it but Mo and his inept minor league player development system has wasted years of draft picks.

Yeah, it's pretty bad though.
They have next to nothing to work with.
It will take years to acquire and nurture some talent.

LOL...You got a bridge you want to sell. This team won 83 games last year. They have some talent, just needed some added talent to get them over the hump but ownership has deemed that they'd rather make excuses than win.

Did you check their run diff last year.
Their record is a fluke and all luck.
They should have been in the 70's for wins.
Lady luck was on their side, but not this year.

The run differential shows why Oli got a vote for MOY.

[CCard]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Unreal.
They have a rebuild with no material to build from.
I mean all their supposed "Young Talent" suck big donkey
It's pathetic.

The cupboard has some pieces in it but Mo and his inept minor league player development system has wasted years of draft picks.

Yeah, it's pretty bad though.
They have next to nothing to work with.
It will take years to acquire and nurture some talent.

LOL...You got a bridge you want to sell. This team won 83 games last year. They have some talent, just needed some added talent to get them over the hump but ownership has deemed that they'd rather make excuses than win.

Did you check their run diff last year.
Their record is a fluke and all luck.
They should have been in the 70's for wins.
Lady luck was on their side, but not this year.

Run differential is one of the least accurate tools to dissect a team. A bad pitcher like Mikols could skew the runs allowed ridiculously and a few injuries or poor play can skew the runs scored drastically. When a team is poor with runners in scoring position it will skew it also, but that doesn't factor in luck on batted balls and improvement of hitting. With a little help they could have easily won another 5-8 games. I will concede that with a little more bad luck they could have been 5-8 games worse probably.

[Futuregm2]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Unreal.
They have a rebuild with no material to build from.
I mean all their supposed "Young Talent" suck big donkey
It's pathetic.

The cupboard has some pieces in it but Mo and his inept minor league player development system has wasted years of draft picks.

Yeah, it's pretty bad though.
They have next to nothing to work with.
It will take years to acquire and nurture some talent.

LOL...You got a bridge you want to sell. This team won 83 games last year. They have some talent, just needed some added talent to get them over the hump but ownership has deemed that they'd rather make excuses than win.

Did you check their run diff last year.
Their record is a fluke and all luck.
They should have been in the 70's for wins.
Lady luck was on their side, but not this year.

Run differential is one of the least accurate tools to dissect a team. A bad pitcher like Mikols could skew the runs allowed ridiculously and a few injuries or poor play can skew the runs scored drastically. When a team is poor with runners in scoring position it will skew it also, but that doesn't factor in luck on batted balls and improvement of hitting. With a little help they could have easily won another 5-8 games. I will concede that with a little more bad luck they could have been 5-8 games worse probably.

Really good teams have really good run differentials
Really bad teams have really bad run differentials
Mediocre teams can go one way or another.

But typically all playoff teams will have at least solid run differentials.

[CCard]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Unreal.
They have a rebuild with no material to build from.
I mean all their supposed "Young Talent" suck big donkey
It's pathetic.

The cupboard has some pieces in it but Mo and his inept minor league player development system has wasted years of draft picks.

Yeah, it's pretty bad though.
They have next to nothing to work with.
It will take years to acquire and nurture some talent.

LOL...You got a bridge you want to sell. This team won 83 games last year. They have some talent, just needed some added talent to get them over the hump but ownership has deemed that they'd rather make excuses than win.

Did you check their run diff last year.
Their record is a fluke and all luck.
They should have been in the 70's for wins.
Lady luck was on their side, but not this year.

Run differential is one of the least accurate tools to dissect a team. A bad pitcher like Mikols could skew the runs allowed ridiculously and a few injuries or poor play can skew the runs scored drastically. When a team is poor with runners in scoring position it will skew it also, but that doesn't factor in luck on batted balls and improvement of hitting. With a little help they could have easily won another 5-8 games. I will concede that with a little more bad luck they could have been 5-8 games worse probably.

Really good teams have really good run differentials
Really bad teams have really bad run differentials
Mediocre teams can go one way or another.

But typically all playoff teams will have at least solid run differentials.

So you dispute my contention that it's one of the worst statistical categories. Even with common sense. Funny how great players can have great years and then fall off of a cliff offensively then rebound and have great years again. Park dimensions play into it, injuries play into it, competition plays into it. So we'll just disagree. I'll agree that bad teams can and do have bad run differentials, I'll concede that point but it isn't the end all be all or else they wouldn't even bother playing the games. Also, it doesn't take into effect if a team adds or subtracts in the middle of the year. I'd imagine if your team is facing elite competition it'd skew the results also. Right?

[jcgmoi]

One good measure of a team's quality is their record in blowouts--games decided by 5 or more runs.

NLC last year:

MIL 29-10
CHC 27-16
CIN 27-22
PIT 19-27
STL 14-26

Yeah, the stat is potentially skewed by other effects, just like everything else in this world. But this one leans in the same direction as run diff and baseruns. You take value where you find it.

[bfib]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Could have ended your post right there

[rockondlouie]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Could have ended your post right there

The good news is they are heating up the last seven days:

.260 .335 .409 .744

[scoutyjones2]

Spring stats are meaningless................unless you're bringing back almost the same lineup that struggled to hit last season too.

Spring rankings:

BA: Last
OB%: 7th from the bottom
slg%: 4th from the bottom
OPS: 4th from the bottom
Hits: Last
Runs: 4th from the bottom

I had high hopes for B. Brown but he can't turn a sows ear (sans WillyC, Hererra, Noot and Donny) into silk purses.


M. SInai
1 for 25

M. Winn
3 for 29
And still hitting lead-off

P. Pages
3 for 18

NADO
4 for 25

Norman
7 for 32

Unreal.
They have a rebuild with no material to build from.
I mean all their supposed "Young Talent" suck big donkey
It's pathetic.

The cupboard has some pieces in it but Mo and his inept minor league player development system has wasted years of draft picks.

Yeah, it's pretty bad though.
They have next to nothing to work with.
It will take years to acquire and nurture some talent.

LOL...You got a bridge you want to sell. This team won 83 games last year. They have some talent, just needed some added talent to get them over the hump but ownership has deemed that they'd rather make excuses than win.

Did you check their run diff last year.
Their record is a fluke and all luck.
They should have been in the 70's for wins.
Lady luck was on their side, but not this year.

RISP was their failure last year dip [shirt]
Luck wasn't in their side