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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 14:59 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 12:09 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 19:41 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:14 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:05 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 17:54 pm We enter the season with question marks but not without hope. I’m comfortable with the rotation and having Mathews, Hence and Roby knocking on the door. I like the talent in the pen and believe Maton was a good add. I fully endorse the decision to keep Helsley to close and play to win. Throughout ST we have tended to walk fewer hitters than our opponents and that speaks well for our pitching as well as our hitters’ patience.

Sure the position players need to play better than last year but I have no reason to think they won’t. The look we are getting of Gorman, Scott II and Herrera is encouraging. I don’t worry about Winn or Noot. Willson will be solid at first. Looking for more from Burleson and Donovan and a spark from Walker. I think Koperniak is ready to step up and make the outfield solid at 4 levels.

Can’t wait to see how fast Davis and JJ move thru the minors. Can’t wait to see who we pick at #5 in the draft. Get a little momentum going in ‘25 and maybe Chaim comes thru in next winter’s FA market.

Listen to the naysayers if you want, this could be an encouraging year.
New too. Perfect situation for failure to force owner to spend. 60-70 wins and -2m fans will show he needs a $180-$200m payroll team with superstars to get back to the winning tradition. Nothing else will work. Has to be a disaster.
:mrgreen: Plenty of room for Eeyores. Much rides on health and player development. I’m not against counting on a little luck, even some Cardinal pixie dust, but I don’t believe 90-100 losses for a second. Won’t happen.
Have you seen the youth? Going young with the 23rd ranked farm last year is a recipe for disaster. Teams go young when they have the Orioles type talent in the farm. You must see something no one else does.
I've proven that idiot wrong for so many seasons it's become a rite of spring.

Nothing but a troll shining Mo's desk apples.
What rock did u slide out from under? The only thing you’ve proven is you need tweezers and a magnifying glass to take a leak.
And I see you still have to squat to (bleep) by the side of the road.

I can see all the other four flushers who agree with you here.

Dope.
Wouldn’t it be something if you could see to contributing something constructive rather than taking the usual dump… chump.
Just because people don't agree with your rainbows and unicorns doesn't mean they're gloom and doomers.

The team's surrender this offseason should be proof enough but you keep on being you.

Being "contsructive" shouldn't mean gaslighting other posters who know better.
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 17:54 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 14:59 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 12:09 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 19:41 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:14 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:05 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 17:54 pm We enter the season with question marks but not without hope. I’m comfortable with the rotation and having Mathews, Hence and Roby knocking on the door. I like the talent in the pen and believe Maton was a good add. I fully endorse the decision to keep Helsley to close and play to win. Throughout ST we have tended to walk fewer hitters than our opponents and that speaks well for our pitching as well as our hitters’ patience.

Sure the position players need to play better than last year but I have no reason to think they won’t. The look we are getting of Gorman, Scott II and Herrera is encouraging. I don’t worry about Winn or Noot. Willson will be solid at first. Looking for more from Burleson and Donovan and a spark from Walker. I think Koperniak is ready to step up and make the outfield solid at 4 levels.

Can’t wait to see how fast Davis and JJ move thru the minors. Can’t wait to see who we pick at #5 in the draft. Get a little momentum going in ‘25 and maybe Chaim comes thru in next winter’s FA market.

Listen to the naysayers if you want, this could be an encouraging year.
New too. Perfect situation for failure to force owner to spend. 60-70 wins and -2m fans will show he needs a $180-$200m payroll team with superstars to get back to the winning tradition. Nothing else will work. Has to be a disaster.
:mrgreen: Plenty of room for Eeyores. Much rides on health and player development. I’m not against counting on a little luck, even some Cardinal pixie dust, but I don’t believe 90-100 losses for a second. Won’t happen.
Have you seen the youth? Going young with the 23rd ranked farm last year is a recipe for disaster. Teams go young when they have the Orioles type talent in the farm. You must see something no one else does.
I've proven that idiot wrong for so many seasons it's become a rite of spring.

Nothing but a troll shining Mo's desk apples.
What rock did u slide out from under? The only thing you’ve proven is you need tweezers and a magnifying glass to take a leak.
And I see you still have to squat to (bleep) by the side of the road.

I can see all the other four flushers who agree with you here.

Dope.
Wouldn’t it be something if you could see to contributing something constructive rather than taking the usual dump… chump.
Just because people don't agree with your rainbows and unicorns doesn't mean they're gloom and doomers.

The team's surrender this offseason should be proof enough but you keep on being you.

Being "contsructive" shouldn't mean gaslighting other posters who know better.
Too bad posters who constantly put down the Cardinals can’t seem to recommend specially how they would improve the situation if they were run ing things.
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:08 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 17:54 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 14:59 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 12:09 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 19:41 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:14 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:05 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 17:54 pm We enter the season with question marks but not without hope. I’m comfortable with the rotation and having Mathews, Hence and Roby knocking on the door. I like the talent in the pen and believe Maton was a good add. I fully endorse the decision to keep Helsley to close and play to win. Throughout ST we have tended to walk fewer hitters than our opponents and that speaks well for our pitching as well as our hitters’ patience.

Sure the position players need to play better than last year but I have no reason to think they won’t. The look we are getting of Gorman, Scott II and Herrera is encouraging. I don’t worry about Winn or Noot. Willson will be solid at first. Looking for more from Burleson and Donovan and a spark from Walker. I think Koperniak is ready to step up and make the outfield solid at 4 levels.

Can’t wait to see how fast Davis and JJ move thru the minors. Can’t wait to see who we pick at #5 in the draft. Get a little momentum going in ‘25 and maybe Chaim comes thru in next winter’s FA market.

Listen to the naysayers if you want, this could be an encouraging year.
New too. Perfect situation for failure to force owner to spend. 60-70 wins and -2m fans will show he needs a $180-$200m payroll team with superstars to get back to the winning tradition. Nothing else will work. Has to be a disaster.
:mrgreen: Plenty of room for Eeyores. Much rides on health and player development. I’m not against counting on a little luck, even some Cardinal pixie dust, but I don’t believe 90-100 losses for a second. Won’t happen.
Have you seen the youth? Going young with the 23rd ranked farm last year is a recipe for disaster. Teams go young when they have the Orioles type talent in the farm. You must see something no one else does.
I've proven that idiot wrong for so many seasons it's become a rite of spring.

Nothing but a troll shining Mo's desk apples.
What rock did u slide out from under? The only thing you’ve proven is you need tweezers and a magnifying glass to take a leak.
And I see you still have to squat to (bleep) by the side of the road.

I can see all the other four flushers who agree with you here.

Dope.
Wouldn’t it be something if you could see to contributing something constructive rather than taking the usual dump… chump.
Just because people don't agree with your rainbows and unicorns doesn't mean they're gloom and doomers.

The team's surrender this offseason should be proof enough but you keep on being you.

Being "contsructive" shouldn't mean gaslighting other posters who know better.
Too bad posters who constantly put down the Cardinals can’t seem to recommend specially how they would improve the situation if they were run ing things.
Should have been paying attention then.

It started with signing Harper many moons ago.

Said so at the time.

What kind of moves that could have resulted in we'll never know but that one was a no-brainer.
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:13 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:08 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 17:54 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 14:59 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 12:09 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 19:41 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:14 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:05 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 17:54 pm We enter the season with question marks but not without hope. I’m comfortable with the rotation and having Mathews, Hence and Roby knocking on the door. I like the talent in the pen and believe Maton was a good add. I fully endorse the decision to keep Helsley to close and play to win. Throughout ST we have tended to walk fewer hitters than our opponents and that speaks well for our pitching as well as our hitters’ patience.

Sure the position players need to play better than last year but I have no reason to think they won’t. The look we are getting of Gorman, Scott II and Herrera is encouraging. I don’t worry about Winn or Noot. Willson will be solid at first. Looking for more from Burleson and Donovan and a spark from Walker. I think Koperniak is ready to step up and make the outfield solid at 4 levels.

Can’t wait to see how fast Davis and JJ move thru the minors. Can’t wait to see who we pick at #5 in the draft. Get a little momentum going in ‘25 and maybe Chaim comes thru in next winter’s FA market.

Listen to the naysayers if you want, this could be an encouraging year.
New too. Perfect situation for failure to force owner to spend. 60-70 wins and -2m fans will show he needs a $180-$200m payroll team with superstars to get back to the winning tradition. Nothing else will work. Has to be a disaster.
:mrgreen: Plenty of room for Eeyores. Much rides on health and player development. I’m not against counting on a little luck, even some Cardinal pixie dust, but I don’t believe 90-100 losses for a second. Won’t happen.
Have you seen the youth? Going young with the 23rd ranked farm last year is a recipe for disaster. Teams go young when they have the Orioles type talent in the farm. You must see something no one else does.
I've proven that idiot wrong for so many seasons it's become a rite of spring.

Nothing but a troll shining Mo's desk apples.
What rock did u slide out from under? The only thing you’ve proven is you need tweezers and a magnifying glass to take a leak.
And I see you still have to squat to (bleep) by the side of the road.

I can see all the other four flushers who agree with you here.

Dope.
Wouldn’t it be something if you could see to contributing something constructive rather than taking the usual dump… chump.
Just because people don't agree with your rainbows and unicorns doesn't mean they're gloom and doomers.

The team's surrender this offseason should be proof enough but you keep on being you.

Being "contsructive" shouldn't mean gaslighting other posters who know better.
Too bad posters who constantly put down the Cardinals can’t seem to recommend specially how they would improve the situation if they were run ing things.
Should have been paying attention then.

It started with signing Harper many moons ago.

Said so at the time.

What kind of moves that could have resulted in we'll never know but that one was a no-brainer.
Cardinals don’t sign 13 year contracts worth $330,000,000. Thank goodness.
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:29 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:13 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:08 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 17:54 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 14:59 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 12:09 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 19:41 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:14 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:05 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 17:54 pm We enter the season with question marks but not without hope. I’m comfortable with the rotation and having Mathews, Hence and Roby knocking on the door. I like the talent in the pen and believe Maton was a good add. I fully endorse the decision to keep Helsley to close and play to win. Throughout ST we have tended to walk fewer hitters than our opponents and that speaks well for our pitching as well as our hitters’ patience.

Sure the position players need to play better than last year but I have no reason to think they won’t. The look we are getting of Gorman, Scott II and Herrera is encouraging. I don’t worry about Winn or Noot. Willson will be solid at first. Looking for more from Burleson and Donovan and a spark from Walker. I think Koperniak is ready to step up and make the outfield solid at 4 levels.

Can’t wait to see how fast Davis and JJ move thru the minors. Can’t wait to see who we pick at #5 in the draft. Get a little momentum going in ‘25 and maybe Chaim comes thru in next winter’s FA market.

Listen to the naysayers if you want, this could be an encouraging year.
New too. Perfect situation for failure to force owner to spend. 60-70 wins and -2m fans will show he needs a $180-$200m payroll team with superstars to get back to the winning tradition. Nothing else will work. Has to be a disaster.
:mrgreen: Plenty of room for Eeyores. Much rides on health and player development. I’m not against counting on a little luck, even some Cardinal pixie dust, but I don’t believe 90-100 losses for a second. Won’t happen.
Have you seen the youth? Going young with the 23rd ranked farm last year is a recipe for disaster. Teams go young when they have the Orioles type talent in the farm. You must see something no one else does.
I've proven that idiot wrong for so many seasons it's become a rite of spring.

Nothing but a troll shining Mo's desk apples.
What rock did u slide out from under? The only thing you’ve proven is you need tweezers and a magnifying glass to take a leak.
And I see you still have to squat to (bleep) by the side of the road.

I can see all the other four flushers who agree with you here.

Dope.
Wouldn’t it be something if you could see to contributing something constructive rather than taking the usual dump… chump.
Just because people don't agree with your rainbows and unicorns doesn't mean they're gloom and doomers.

The team's surrender this offseason should be proof enough but you keep on being you.

Being "contsructive" shouldn't mean gaslighting other posters who know better.
Too bad posters who constantly put down the Cardinals can’t seem to recommend specially how they would improve the situation if they were run ing things.
Should have been paying attention then.

It started with signing Harper many moons ago.

Said so at the time.

What kind of moves that could have resulted in we'll never know but that one was a no-brainer.
Cardinals don’t sign 13 year contracts worth $330,000,000. Thank goodness.
Yeah that's chump change nowadays.

Just goes to show the organization has no vision and no balls.
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:29 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:13 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:08 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 17:54 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 14:59 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 12:09 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 19:41 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:14 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:05 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 17:54 pm We enter the season with question marks but not without hope. I’m comfortable with the rotation and having Mathews, Hence and Roby knocking on the door. I like the talent in the pen and believe Maton was a good add. I fully endorse the decision to keep Helsley to close and play to win. Throughout ST we have tended to walk fewer hitters than our opponents and that speaks well for our pitching as well as our hitters’ patience.

Sure the position players need to play better than last year but I have no reason to think they won’t. The look we are getting of Gorman, Scott II and Herrera is encouraging. I don’t worry about Winn or Noot. Willson will be solid at first. Looking for more from Burleson and Donovan and a spark from Walker. I think Koperniak is ready to step up and make the outfield solid at 4 levels.

Can’t wait to see how fast Davis and JJ move thru the minors. Can’t wait to see who we pick at #5 in the draft. Get a little momentum going in ‘25 and maybe Chaim comes thru in next winter’s FA market.

Listen to the naysayers if you want, this could be an encouraging year.
New too. Perfect situation for failure to force owner to spend. 60-70 wins and -2m fans will show he needs a $180-$200m payroll team with superstars to get back to the winning tradition. Nothing else will work. Has to be a disaster.
:mrgreen: Plenty of room for Eeyores. Much rides on health and player development. I’m not against counting on a little luck, even some Cardinal pixie dust, but I don’t believe 90-100 losses for a second. Won’t happen.
Have you seen the youth? Going young with the 23rd ranked farm last year is a recipe for disaster. Teams go young when they have the Orioles type talent in the farm. You must see something no one else does.
I've proven that idiot wrong for so many seasons it's become a rite of spring.

Nothing but a troll shining Mo's desk apples.
What rock did u slide out from under? The only thing you’ve proven is you need tweezers and a magnifying glass to take a leak.
And I see you still have to squat to (bleep) by the side of the road.

I can see all the other four flushers who agree with you here.

Dope.
Wouldn’t it be something if you could see to contributing something constructive rather than taking the usual dump… chump.
Just because people don't agree with your rainbows and unicorns doesn't mean they're gloom and doomers.

The team's surrender this offseason should be proof enough but you keep on being you.

Being "contsructive" shouldn't mean gaslighting other posters who know better.
Too bad posters who constantly put down the Cardinals can’t seem to recommend specially how they would improve the situation if they were run ing things.
Should have been paying attention then.

It started with signing Harper many moons ago.

Said so at the time.

What kind of moves that could have resulted in we'll never know but that one was a no-brainer.
Cardinals don’t sign 13 year contracts worth $330,000,000. Thank goodness.
Harper has won an MVP (and an LCS MVP) and is a guaranteed 30-HR guy since signing that contract. A future Hall of Famer. Yeah, thank God we’re not saddled with him. :lol:

And…you’ve been given dozens upon dozens of posts that explain what people would do to fix the Cardinals. You just choose to ignore those.
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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desertrat23 wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:39 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:29 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:13 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:08 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 17:54 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 14:59 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 12:09 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 19:41 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:14 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:05 pm

New too. Perfect situation for failure to force owner to spend. 60-70 wins and -2m fans will show he needs a $180-$200m payroll team with superstars to get back to the winning tradition. Nothing else will work. Has to be a disaster.
:mrgreen: Plenty of room for Eeyores. Much rides on health and player development. I’m not against counting on a little luck, even some Cardinal pixie dust, but I don’t believe 90-100 losses for a second. Won’t happen.
Have you seen the youth? Going young with the 23rd ranked farm last year is a recipe for disaster. Teams go young when they have the Orioles type talent in the farm. You must see something no one else does.
I've proven that idiot wrong for so many seasons it's become a rite of spring.

Nothing but a troll shining Mo's desk apples.
What rock did u slide out from under? The only thing you’ve proven is you need tweezers and a magnifying glass to take a leak.
And I see you still have to squat to (bleep) by the side of the road.

I can see all the other four flushers who agree with you here.

Dope.
Wouldn’t it be something if you could see to contributing something constructive rather than taking the usual dump… chump.
Just because people don't agree with your rainbows and unicorns doesn't mean they're gloom and doomers.

The team's surrender this offseason should be proof enough but you keep on being you.

Being "contsructive" shouldn't mean gaslighting other posters who know better.
Too bad posters who constantly put down the Cardinals can’t seem to recommend specially how they would improve the situation if they were run ing things.
Should have been paying attention then.

It started with signing Harper many moons ago.

Said so at the time.

What kind of moves that could have resulted in we'll never know but that one was a no-brainer.
Cardinals don’t sign 13 year contracts worth $330,000,000. Thank goodness.
Harper has won an MVP (and an LCS MVP) and is a guaranteed 30-HR guy since signing that contract. A future Hall of Famer. Yeah, thank God we’re not saddled with him. :lol:

And…you’ve been given dozens upon dozens of posts that explain what people would do to fix the Cardinals. You just choose to ignore those.
Unfortunately those dozens upon dozens of posts don’t deal with the reality of mid market vs. large market. All they mostly say is fire Mo and sell the team. Most are very simplistic.

For instance, the Phillies revenues are about 25% higher than the Cardinals revenues. So just go sign Harper to a 13 year contract for $330,000,000. Sure.
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:46 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:39 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:29 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:13 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:08 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 17:54 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 14:59 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 12:09 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 19:41 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:14 pm

:mrgreen: Plenty of room for Eeyores. Much rides on health and player development. I’m not against counting on a little luck, even some Cardinal pixie dust, but I don’t believe 90-100 losses for a second. Won’t happen.
Have you seen the youth? Going young with the 23rd ranked farm last year is a recipe for disaster. Teams go young when they have the Orioles type talent in the farm. You must see something no one else does.
I've proven that idiot wrong for so many seasons it's become a rite of spring.

Nothing but a troll shining Mo's desk apples.
What rock did u slide out from under? The only thing you’ve proven is you need tweezers and a magnifying glass to take a leak.
And I see you still have to squat to (bleep) by the side of the road.

I can see all the other four flushers who agree with you here.

Dope.
Wouldn’t it be something if you could see to contributing something constructive rather than taking the usual dump… chump.
Just because people don't agree with your rainbows and unicorns doesn't mean they're gloom and doomers.

The team's surrender this offseason should be proof enough but you keep on being you.

Being "contsructive" shouldn't mean gaslighting other posters who know better.
Too bad posters who constantly put down the Cardinals can’t seem to recommend specially how they would improve the situation if they were run ing things.
Should have been paying attention then.

It started with signing Harper many moons ago.

Said so at the time.

What kind of moves that could have resulted in we'll never know but that one was a no-brainer.
Cardinals don’t sign 13 year contracts worth $330,000,000. Thank goodness.
Harper has won an MVP (and an LCS MVP) and is a guaranteed 30-HR guy since signing that contract. A future Hall of Famer. Yeah, thank God we’re not saddled with him. :lol:

And…you’ve been given dozens upon dozens of posts that explain what people would do to fix the Cardinals. You just choose to ignore those.
Unfortunately those dozens upon dozens of posts don’t deal with the reality of mid market vs. large market. All they mostly say is fire Mo and sell the team. Most are very simplistic.

For instance, the Phillies revenues are about 25% higher than the Cardinals revenues. So just go sign Harper to a 13 year contract for $330,000,000. Sure.
Easy just don't sign Leake and Fowler. There's 170K right there.

You get a generational player for the National league's most storied franchise for basically 160-thousand..

You'll have to do better than that if you're going to butt heads with me.
Last edited by 11WSChamps on 16 Mar 2025 18:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:46 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:39 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:29 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:13 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:08 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 17:54 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 14:59 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 12:09 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 19:41 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 15 Mar 2025 18:14 pm

:mrgreen: Plenty of room for Eeyores. Much rides on health and player development. I’m not against counting on a little luck, even some Cardinal pixie dust, but I don’t believe 90-100 losses for a second. Won’t happen.
Have you seen the youth? Going young with the 23rd ranked farm last year is a recipe for disaster. Teams go young when they have the Orioles type talent in the farm. You must see something no one else does.
I've proven that idiot wrong for so many seasons it's become a rite of spring.

Nothing but a troll shining Mo's desk apples.
What rock did u slide out from under? The only thing you’ve proven is you need tweezers and a magnifying glass to take a leak.
And I see you still have to squat to (bleep) by the side of the road.

I can see all the other four flushers who agree with you here.

Dope.
Wouldn’t it be something if you could see to contributing something constructive rather than taking the usual dump… chump.
Just because people don't agree with your rainbows and unicorns doesn't mean they're gloom and doomers.

The team's surrender this offseason should be proof enough but you keep on being you.

Being "contsructive" shouldn't mean gaslighting other posters who know better.
Too bad posters who constantly put down the Cardinals can’t seem to recommend specially how they would improve the situation if they were run ing things.
Should have been paying attention then.

It started with signing Harper many moons ago.

Said so at the time.

What kind of moves that could have resulted in we'll never know but that one was a no-brainer.
Cardinals don’t sign 13 year contracts worth $330,000,000. Thank goodness.
Harper has won an MVP (and an LCS MVP) and is a guaranteed 30-HR guy since signing that contract. A future Hall of Famer. Yeah, thank God we’re not saddled with him. :lol:

And…you’ve been given dozens upon dozens of posts that explain what people would do to fix the Cardinals. You just choose to ignore those.
Unfortunately those dozens upon dozens of posts don’t deal with the reality of mid market vs. large market. All they mostly say is fire Mo and sell the team. Most are very simplistic.

For instance, the Phillies revenues are about 25% higher than the Cardinals revenues. So just go sign Harper to a 13 year contract for $330,000,000. Sure.
1. I wonder if they’d sell more tickets and make more money if they had a real superstar player in the middle of a winning lineup.
2. I don’t care how much money Bill DeWitt makes.
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:49 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:46 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:39 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:29 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:13 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:08 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 17:54 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 14:59 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 12:09 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 15 Mar 2025 19:41 pm

Have you seen the youth? Going young with the 23rd ranked farm last year is a recipe for disaster. Teams go young when they have the Orioles type talent in the farm. You must see something no one else does.
I've proven that idiot wrong for so many seasons it's become a rite of spring.

Nothing but a troll shining Mo's desk apples.
What rock did u slide out from under? The only thing you’ve proven is you need tweezers and a magnifying glass to take a leak.
And I see you still have to squat to (bleep) by the side of the road.

I can see all the other four flushers who agree with you here.

Dope.
Wouldn’t it be something if you could see to contributing something constructive rather than taking the usual dump… chump.
Just because people don't agree with your rainbows and unicorns doesn't mean they're gloom and doomers.

The team's surrender this offseason should be proof enough but you keep on being you.

Being "contsructive" shouldn't mean gaslighting other posters who know better.
Too bad posters who constantly put down the Cardinals can’t seem to recommend specially how they would improve the situation if they were run ing things.
Should have been paying attention then.

It started with signing Harper many moons ago.

Said so at the time.

What kind of moves that could have resulted in we'll never know but that one was a no-brainer.
Cardinals don’t sign 13 year contracts worth $330,000,000. Thank goodness.
Harper has won an MVP (and an LCS MVP) and is a guaranteed 30-HR guy since signing that contract. A future Hall of Famer. Yeah, thank God we’re not saddled with him. :lol:

And…you’ve been given dozens upon dozens of posts that explain what people would do to fix the Cardinals. You just choose to ignore those.
Unfortunately those dozens upon dozens of posts don’t deal with the reality of mid market vs. large market. All they mostly say is fire Mo and sell the team. Most are very simplistic.

For instance, the Phillies revenues are about 25% higher than the Cardinals revenues. So just go sign Harper to a 13 year contract for $330,000,000. Sure.
Easy just don't sign Leake and Fowler. There's 170K right there.

You get a generational player for the National league's most storied franchise for basically 160-thousand..

You'll have to do better than that if you're going to butt heads with me.
Throw in Mikolas’ stupid deal…
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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desertrat23 wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:53 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:49 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:46 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:39 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:29 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:13 pm
Cranny wrote: 16 Mar 2025 18:08 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 17:54 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 15:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Mar 2025 14:59 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 16 Mar 2025 12:09 pm

I've proven that idiot wrong for so many seasons it's become a rite of spring.

Nothing but a troll shining Mo's desk apples.
What rock did u slide out from under? The only thing you’ve proven is you need tweezers and a magnifying glass to take a leak.
And I see you still have to squat to (bleep) by the side of the road.

I can see all the other four flushers who agree with you here.

Dope.
Wouldn’t it be something if you could see to contributing something constructive rather than taking the usual dump… chump.
Just because people don't agree with your rainbows and unicorns doesn't mean they're gloom and doomers.

The team's surrender this offseason should be proof enough but you keep on being you.

Being "contsructive" shouldn't mean gaslighting other posters who know better.
Too bad posters who constantly put down the Cardinals can’t seem to recommend specially how they would improve the situation if they were run ing things.
Should have been paying attention then.

It started with signing Harper many moons ago.

Said so at the time.

What kind of moves that could have resulted in we'll never know but that one was a no-brainer.
Cardinals don’t sign 13 year contracts worth $330,000,000. Thank goodness.
Harper has won an MVP (and an LCS MVP) and is a guaranteed 30-HR guy since signing that contract. A future Hall of Famer. Yeah, thank God we’re not saddled with him. :lol:

And…you’ve been given dozens upon dozens of posts that explain what people would do to fix the Cardinals. You just choose to ignore those.
Unfortunately those dozens upon dozens of posts don’t deal with the reality of mid market vs. large market. All they mostly say is fire Mo and sell the team. Most are very simplistic.

For instance, the Phillies revenues are about 25% higher than the Cardinals revenues. So just go sign Harper to a 13 year contract for $330,000,000. Sure.
Easy just don't sign Leake and Fowler. There's 170K right there.

You get a generational player for the National league's most storied franchise for basically 160-thousand..

You'll have to do better than that if you're going to butt heads with me.
Throw in Mikolas’ stupid deal…
What if Harper preferred to play in the more populous northeast where he could get more and higher priced promotional ad spots? Then what do you do?
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I have no dog in this fight….

but all this talk about signing superstar players….

The idea that these guys are just sitting by the phone, desperately wishing, praying the cards call is just fantasy…

Cards fan need to accept a more reasonable understanding of where St. Louis is the list of desirable locations

Now….please carry on..
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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45s wrote: 16 Mar 2025 19:48 pm I have no dog in this fight….

but all this talk about signing superstar players….

The idea that these guys are just sitting by the phone, desperately wishing, praying the cards call is just fantasy…

Cards fan need to accept a more reasonable understanding of where St. Louis is the list of desirable locations

Now….please carry on..
Let context be your friend.

I'm talking about when Harper was available and the ballclub was still more than relevant and more than a desirable landing spot.

Carry on.
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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45s wrote: 16 Mar 2025 19:48 pm I have no dog in this fight….

but all this talk about signing superstar players….

The idea that these guys are just sitting by the phone, desperately wishing, praying the cards call is just fantasy…

Cards fan need to accept a more reasonable understanding of where St. Louis is the list of desirable locations

Now….please carry on..
Very possible, likely even. We all remember Stanton rejecting a trade here.

HOWEVER, I still think that for a lot of guys, winning will cure a lot of those ills. Build a team and a culture that says “we’re serious about going for championships around here,” and you’ll find people who want to come. Ohtani/Soto types? Probably not. But this can be a desirable place for top FA talent if the will is there for ownership.
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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desertrat23 wrote: 16 Mar 2025 20:07 pm
45s wrote: 16 Mar 2025 19:48 pm I have no dog in this fight….

but all this talk about signing superstar players….

The idea that these guys are just sitting by the phone, desperately wishing, praying the cards call is just fantasy…

Cards fan need to accept a more reasonable understanding of where St. Louis is the list of desirable locations

Now….please carry on..
Very possible, likely even. We all remember Stanton rejecting a trade here.

HOWEVER, I still think that for a lot of guys, winning will cure a lot of those ills. Build a team and a culture that says “we’re serious about going for championships around here,” and you’ll find people who want to come. Ohtani/Soto types? Probably not. But this can be a desirable place for top FA talent if the will is there for ownership.
Good thoughts….

However, it’s clear the will is not there for this ownership……so the focus, obsession on free agent spending is meaningless…not going to happen..

The club is in a transition to building from within….for what little my opinion is worth, I think that is their most realistic option…

Although, I don’t have a lot of confidence they can successfully pull it off as other clubs have
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Re: I’m happy where the Cardinals are

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No they are not in a good place

They have become mediocre and insignificant over the last decade (Milwaukee owns this division)

The best 26 doesn’t come north, and players know who belongs and who doesn’t

It’s a fractured organization with an owner living in yesteryear
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