I’m happy where the Cardinals are

[hilton head is 4 idiots]

We enter the season with question marks but not without hope. I’m comfortable with the rotation and having Mathews, Hence and Roby knocking on the door. I like the talent in the pen and believe Maton was a good add. I fully endorse the decision to keep Helsley to close and play to win. Throughout ST we have tended to walk fewer hitters than our opponents and that speaks well for our pitching as well as our hitters’ patience.

Sure the position players need to play better than last year but I have no reason to think they won’t. The look we are getting of Gorman, Scott II and Herrera is encouraging. I don’t worry about Winn or Noot. Willson will be solid at first. Looking for more from Burleson and Donovan and a spark from Walker. I think Koperniak is ready to step up and make the outfield solid at 4 levels.

Can’t wait to see how fast Davis and JJ move thru the minors. Can’t wait to see who we pick at #5 in the draft. Get a little momentum going in ‘25 and maybe Chaim comes thru in next winter’s FA market.

Listen to the naysayers if you want, this could be aencouraging year.

Yep.

The only way that I could be happier is if we were the Dodgers.

I mean, how could you be happier with such a pathetic ownership who does nothing but milks money off of such ignorant people who call themselves fans and give them money? Honest question.

Foolish comparison. Nobody has the resources of the Dodgers. I don’t recall giving DeWitt any money last year. How much did you give him?

And i think that you're an idiot for saying it's a foolish comparison. The last time that i checked, the wrinkled bag DeWitt owns a mansion in California just like Mark Walter does. You're just stupid enough to believe that DeWitt is poor

It's absolutely incredible how much money a terrible owner like DeWitt has saved me and how thankful I am.

Not sure who would argue with that moronic logic or would want to. In the 30 years of ownership, De Witt has won twice as many WS as his share and has been to the WS twice his share as well.

Those are just facts.

How about the last decade? Dodgers 4 times to the World Series twice won cardinals once to the World Series and lost. How good are the teams now? Zero chance cards go to the World Series good chance the dodgers win. They won last year with their rotation in shambles

They also spent a BILLION DOLLARS on just 2 players; then had MLB OK avoiding the luxury tax by allowing them to deferred $680 million of the $700 million Ohtani deal.

2027 will explain it to you.

[JB2011]

We enter the season with question marks but not without hope. I’m comfortable with the rotation and having Mathews, Hence and Roby knocking on the door. I like the talent in the pen and believe Maton was a good add. I fully endorse the decision to keep Helsley to close and play to win. Throughout ST we have tended to walk fewer hitters than our opponents and that speaks well for our pitching as well as our hitters’ patience.

Sure the position players need to play better than last year but I have no reason to think they won’t. The look we are getting of Gorman, Scott II and Herrera is encouraging. I don’t worry about Winn or Noot. Willson will be solid at first. Looking for more from Burleson and Donovan and a spark from Walker. I think Koperniak is ready to step up and make the outfield solid at 4 levels.

Can’t wait to see how fast Davis and JJ move thru the minors. Can’t wait to see who we pick at #5 in the draft. Get a little momentum going in ‘25 and maybe Chaim comes thru in next winter’s FA market.

Listen to the naysayers if you want, this could be aencouraging year.

Yep.

The only way that I could be happier is if we were the Dodgers.

I mean, how could you be happier with such a pathetic ownership who does nothing but milks money off of such ignorant people who call themselves fans and give them money? Honest question.

Foolish comparison. Nobody has the resources of the Dodgers. I don’t recall giving DeWitt any money last year. How much did you give him?

And i think that you're an idiot for saying it's a foolish comparison. The last time that i checked, the wrinkled bag DeWitt owns a mansion in California just like Mark Walter does. You're just stupid enough to believe that DeWitt is poor

It's absolutely incredible how much money a terrible owner like DeWitt has saved me and how thankful I am.

Not sure who would argue with that moronic logic or would want to. In the 30 years of ownership, De Witt has won twice as many WS as his share and has been to the WS twice his share as well.

Those are just facts.

How about the last decade? Dodgers 4 times to the World Series twice won cardinals once to the World Series and lost. How good are the teams now? Zero chance cards go to the World Series good chance the dodgers win. They won last year with their rotation in shambles

They also spent a BILLION DOLLARS on just 2 players; then had MLB OK avoiding the luxury tax by allowing them to deferred $680 million of the $700 million Ohtani deal.

2027 will explain it to you.

Ozziesfan41,

Great. Now you have the board's biggest self important idiot trying to.exlplain things to you.

[JohnnyMO]

Lots of negativity from Hilton Head in this thread. Being negative about iron gloved second baseman and cowardly liar posters. That kind of pessimistic loser attitude helps no one.

[Cranny]

We enter the season with question marks but not without hope. I’m comfortable with the rotation and having Mathews, Hence and Roby knocking on the door. I like the talent in the pen and believe Maton was a good add. I fully endorse the decision to keep Helsley to close and play to win. Throughout ST we have tended to walk fewer hitters than our opponents and that speaks well for our pitching as well as our hitters’ patience.

Sure the position players need to play better than last year but I have no reason to think they won’t. The look we are getting of Gorman, Scott II and Herrera is encouraging. I don’t worry about Winn or Noot. Willson will be solid at first. Looking for more from Burleson and Donovan and a spark from Walker. I think Koperniak is ready to step up and make the outfield solid at 4 levels.

Can’t wait to see how fast Davis and JJ move thru the minors. Can’t wait to see who we pick at #5 in the draft. Get a little momentum going in ‘25 and maybe Chaim comes thru in next winter’s FA market.

Listen to the naysayers if you want, this could be an encouraging year.

+1000

[Youboughtit]

We enter the season with question marks but not without hope. I’m comfortable with the rotation and having Mathews, Hence and Roby knocking on the door. I like the talent in the pen and believe Maton was a good add. I fully endorse the decision to keep Helsley to close and play to win. Throughout ST we have tended to walk fewer hitters than our opponents and that speaks well for our pitching as well as our hitters’ patience.

Sure the position players need to play better than last year but I have no reason to think they won’t. The look we are getting of Gorman, Scott II and Herrera is encouraging. I don’t worry about Winn or Noot. Willson will be solid at first. Looking for more from Burleson and Donovan and a spark from Walker. I think Koperniak is ready to step up and make the outfield solid at 4 levels.

Can’t wait to see how fast Davis and JJ move thru the minors. Can’t wait to see who we pick at #5 in the draft. Get a little momentum going in ‘25 and maybe Chaim comes thru in next winter’s FA market.

Listen to the naysayers if you want, this could be an encouraging year.

New too. Perfect situation for failure to force owner to spend. 60-70 wins and -2m fans will show he needs a $180-$200m payroll team with superstars to get back to the winning tradition. Nothing else will work. Has to be a disaster.

Plenty of room for Eeyores. Much rides on health and player development. I’m not against counting on a little luck, even some Cardinal pixie dust, but I don’t believe 90-100 losses for a second. Won’t happen.

Have you seen the youth? Going young with the 23rd ranked farm last year is a recipe for disaster. Teams go young when they have the Orioles type talent in the farm. You must see something no one else does.

The Orioles paid a price for “that” youth. They had the worst overall record in baseball from 2000 thru 2021.

I have seen the youth. We had the best A team in baseball last year. Pretty good AA too. I like a lot of our talent in the minors and we had the 3d best ML record since 2000. Looking forward to see what Chaim can do with our farm. He certainly did well with the Red Sox farm.

I was referring to the youth in AAA and MLb level being forced down our throats. Like I have said on other threads of the owner was serious about winning he will have $100m or more to spend next season. Finland Guerrero Tucker and one of Cease Gallen or Valdez and restore the glory because the current team is lacking cuter HOF all star caliber players in their prime. They have plenty of mid tier role players

[WLTFE]

Lots of negativity from Hilton Head in this thread. Being negative about iron gloved second baseman and cowardly liar posters. That kind of pessimistic loser attitude helps no one.

+1....there are few posters who hijack threads and argue and name-call anyone who disagrees...one even accuses other posters of being mentally ill if they disagree...disgusting behavior!

[hilton head is 4 idiots]

Lots of negativity from Hilton Head in this thread. Being negative about iron gloved second baseman and cowardly liar posters. That kind of pessimistic loser attitude helps no one.

Johnny, the TRUTH always helps everyone who welcomes it and embraces it.

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( I could LIE and say Gorman is the unicorn and has a great glove. But then I would be like you, ME-ville, and a couple others)

[hugeCardfan]

I'm disappointed because, whether by choice or by circumstance, they still seem to be on this "middle road" between really competing (which the roster is really in no shape to this year anyway) and being committed to doing a thorough rebuild. Only this year they've edged somewhat closer to the rebuilding side of the "middle road." They are in 70 to 85 win purgatory with no clear path to get out of it other than waiting for Arenado's, Gray's, Contreras', etc. contracts to expire.

When have the Cardinals ever done a full rebuild? Purgatory is 45-60 wins for five seasons like Baltimore did in “thorough rebuild” circa 2016-21. The pitching tells me, short of significant injury, it’ll be more than 70 wins. Roster status is just fine to figure out team direction for the next few years. As we shore up position player status, pitching too should start falling into place. If holding your breath for contract expiration you belong in the glass half empty group. We have the ability to compete on a day to day basis. I’ll take that right now.

[45s]

Are you suggesting the team stay in Florida?

[desertrat23]

It’s a team for people who loved to eat at Shoney’s.

This makes perfect sense, actually. What was Shoney’s? It wasn’t a bad place, but it wasn’t particularly good either. No flair, no frills, nothing particularly interesting. Simple, basic, mediocre food for Boomer Midwestern white people. That’s the Cardinals in a nutshell. They’ll be .500, plus or minus a couple of games. Not bad, not great, watchable but not exciting. Give the people what they want.

[desertrat23]

If the Cardinals became the Dodgers and won by outspending most everyone else by a wide margin I’m not sure how fun it would be to support the team.

It’s a hypothetical to be sure, but respectfully, I don’t think you or anyone else would mind. There’s no shame in working the system to your benefit.

[Quincy Varnish]

It’s a team for people who loved to eat at Shoney’s.

This makes perfect sense, actually. What was Shoney’s? It wasn’t a bad place, but it wasn’t particularly good either. No flair, no frills, nothing particularly interesting. Simple, basic, mediocre food for Boomer Midwestern white people. That’s the Cardinals in a nutshell. They’ll be .500, plus or minus a couple of games. Not bad, not great, watchable but not exciting. Give the people what they want.

AYCE ranch dressing!

[desertrat23]

It’s a team for people who loved to eat at Shoney’s.

This makes perfect sense, actually. What was Shoney’s? It wasn’t a bad place, but it wasn’t particularly good either. No flair, no frills, nothing particularly interesting. Simple, basic, mediocre food for Boomer Midwestern white people. That’s the Cardinals in a nutshell. They’ll be .500, plus or minus a couple of games. Not bad, not great, watchable but not exciting. Give the people what they want.

AYCE ranch dressing!

Yup! House salad, iced tea and well-done sirloin? Mmmmm…that’s mediocre eating!

[Quincy Varnish]

It’s a team for people who loved to eat at Shoney’s.

This makes perfect sense, actually. What was Shoney’s? It wasn’t a bad place, but it wasn’t particularly good either. No flair, no frills, nothing particularly interesting. Simple, basic, mediocre food for Boomer Midwestern white people. That’s the Cardinals in a nutshell. They’ll be .500, plus or minus a couple of games. Not bad, not great, watchable but not exciting. Give the people what they want.

AYCE ranch dressing!

Yup! House salad, iced tea and well-done sirloin? Mmmmm…that’s mediocre eating!

Flickering fluorescent lighting and the faint sound of Rod Stewart in the background… is this the beginning of a screenplay about how John Mozeliak became GM of the St. Louis Cardinals?

[NYCardsFan]

It’s a team for people who loved to eat at Shoney’s.

This makes perfect sense, actually. What was Shoney’s? It wasn’t a bad place, but it wasn’t particularly good either. No flair, no frills, nothing particularly interesting. Simple, basic, mediocre food for Boomer Midwestern white people. That’s the Cardinals in a nutshell. They’ll be .500, plus or minus a couple of games. Not bad, not great, watchable but not exciting. Give the people what they want.

AYCE ranch dressing!

Yup! House salad, iced tea and well-done sirloin? Mmmmm…that’s mediocre eating!

Flickering fluorescent lighting and the faint sound of Rod Stewart in the background… is this the beginning of a screenplay about how John Mozeliak became GM of the St. Louis Cardinals?

"But Shoney's averaged a 2.5-star rating from 2008-2022 . . ."

[sikeston bulldog2]

It’s a team for people who loved to eat at Shoney’s.

This makes perfect sense, actually. What was Shoney’s? It wasn’t a bad place, but it wasn’t particularly good either. No flair, no frills, nothing particularly interesting. Simple, basic, mediocre food for Boomer Midwestern white people. That’s the Cardinals in a nutshell. They’ll be .500, plus or minus a couple of games. Not bad, not great, watchable but not exciting. Give the people what they want.

AYCE ranch dressing!

Yup! House salad, iced tea and well-done sirloin? Mmmmm…that’s mediocre eating!

Flickering fluorescent lighting and the faint sound of Rod Stewart in the background… is this the beginning of a screenplay about how John Mozeliak became GM of the St. Louis Cardinals?

"But Shoney's averaged a 2.5-star rating from 2008-2022 . . ."

Yeah but their breakfast buffet at 2 am after a night of drinking was the shittttt.