Q. Mathews to Minor League Camp

[Shady]

Frustrating to not have given him at least another start or two.

I agree. I'm not sure what the plan is for Mathews. Are the Cardinals being to restrictive with him? He's not exactly a youngster, so to speak. It looks to me like he is simply blocked, right now, by some bloated contracts.

Seriously???
Mathews is flipping 24 years old!
He has been on the rise and there is a strong chance he is the rotation late in the season!
In the meantime you have:
Gray
Fedde
Pallante
Mikolas
Matz
To be followed by:
McGreevy
Graceffo?
Roby??

It took you three edits to post these pearls of wisdom???
His work load in the minors will continue to groom him as a starter.
My guess?
He is a regular in the rotation coming out of ST next season.
Yes by all means one more start with the big club in ST is the KEY!
My fingers are crossed that he doesn’t turn into a pumpkin by June.
SMH.....more classic stuff!!!

You think they Side Show Clown stole Shady's password?

Mathews needs to start every 5th day right now (March 2) and the place that is available is in minor league camp.

Whoever this “Shady” poster is all he does is ask rhetorical questions while offering nothing in a discussion.
Seeks attention only!
That being said:
Mathews has probably risen to become their #1 SP prospect edging slightly ahead of McGreevy & Hence.
He needs to start the season in AAA and keep progressing.
There is NO WAY he should start the season in St.Louis so WHY push him?
Especially when you need to evaluate the other arms who could/should start the season with the big club.
But by all means we need to see Mathews throw 5 or 6 more innings so CT posters can get a better look at him!
SMH LOL

"There is NO WAY he should start the season in St.Louis so WHY push him?
Especially when you need to evaluate the other arms who could/should start the season with the big club". Brilliant, continue to evaluate Mikolas and Matz when you have a potential true difference maker in Mathews. Who is already 24 years old. They need to evaluate Mathews chance more to be in the rotation more than the ones you probably are referring to. Do they have Mathews' potential? Does this qualify as adding to the discussion? Get off your highhorse.

[An Old Friend]

He's only 24 years old... far too young to bring up

They are reverting back to their old ways. 25 or forget it.

If you are of the feeling that he should be in the rotation, who are you bouncing for him, Pallante or McGreevy, and why? Where are you sending them, AAA?

[Cusecards]

Frustrating to not have given him at least another start or two.

I agree. I'm not sure what the plan is for Mathews. Are the Cardinals being to restrictive with him? He's not exactly a youngster, so to speak. It looks to me like he is simply blocked, right now, by some bloated contracts.

Seriously???
Mathews is flipping 24 years old!
He has been on the rise and there is a strong chance he is the rotation late in the season!
In the meantime you have:
Gray
Fedde
Pallante
Mikolas
Matz
To be followed by:
McGreevy
Graceffo?
Roby??

It took you three edits to post these pearls of wisdom???
His work load in the minors will continue to groom him as a starter.
My guess?
He is a regular in the rotation coming out of ST next season.
Yes by all means one more start with the big club in ST is the KEY!
My fingers are crossed that he doesn’t turn into a pumpkin by June.
SMH.....more classic stuff!!!

You think they Side Show Clown stole Shady's password?

Mathews needs to start every 5th day right now (March 2) and the place that is available is in minor league camp.

Whoever this “Shady” poster is all he does is ask rhetorical questions while offering nothing in a discussion.
Seeks attention only!
That being said:
Mathews has probably risen to become their #1 SP prospect edging slightly ahead of McGreevy & Hence.
He needs to start the season in AAA and keep progressing.
There is NO WAY he should start the season in St.Louis so WHY push him?
Especially when you need to evaluate the other arms who could/should start the season with the big club.
But by all means we need to see Mathews throw 5 or 6 more innings so CT posters can get a better look at him!
SMH LOL

"Especially when you need to evaluate the other arms who could/should start the season with the big club". Brilliant, continue to evaluate Mikolas and Matz when you have a potential true difference maker in Mathews.

I wasn’t referring to Mikolas & Matz GENIUS!!
They are on borrowed time.
Either could be dealt now or at the deadline.
Matz could easily wind up in the BP(assuming he is healthy) in favor of McGreevy.
Neither of them is back in 2026 but in the meantime they can serve to give the young arms
(Mathews, Graceffo, Roby, Hence etc etc) a few months to progress.
Are you actually saying that Mathews should be on the roster to start the season????
If so.... you are even dumber than most everyone else here thinks you already are!
Tell us what YOU THINK should be done with Mathews??????
SMH

[Shady]

Frustrating to not have given him at least another start or two.

I agree. I'm not sure what the plan is for Mathews. Are the Cardinals being to restrictive with him? He's not exactly a youngster, so to speak. It looks to me like he is simply blocked, right now, by some bloated contracts.

Seriously???
Mathews is flipping 24 years old!
He has been on the rise and there is a strong chance he is the rotation late in the season!
In the meantime you have:
Gray
Fedde
Pallante
Mikolas
Matz
To be followed by:
McGreevy
Graceffo?
Roby??

It took you three edits to post these pearls of wisdom???
His work load in the minors will continue to groom him as a starter.
My guess?
He is a regular in the rotation coming out of ST next season.
Yes by all means one more start with the big club in ST is the KEY!
My fingers are crossed that he doesn’t turn into a pumpkin by June.
SMH.....more classic stuff!!!

You think they Side Show Clown stole Shady's password?

Mathews needs to start every 5th day right now (March 2) and the place that is available is in minor league camp.

Whoever this “Shady” poster is all he does is ask rhetorical questions while offering nothing in a discussion.
Seeks attention only!
That being said:
Mathews has probably risen to become their #1 SP prospect edging slightly ahead of McGreevy & Hence.
He needs to start the season in AAA and keep progressing.
There is NO WAY he should start the season in St.Louis so WHY push him?
Especially when you need to evaluate the other arms who could/should start the season with the big club.
But by all means we need to see Mathews throw 5 or 6 more innings so CT posters can get a better look at him!
SMH LOL

"Especially when you need to evaluate the other arms who could/should start the season with the big club". Brilliant, continue to evaluate Mikolas and Matz when you have a potential true difference maker in Mathews.

I wasn’t referring to Mikolas & Matz GENIUS!!
They are on borrowed time.
Either could be dealt now or at the deadline.
Matz could easily wind up in the BP(assuming he is healthy) in favor of McGreevy.
Neither of them is back in 2026 but in the meantime they can serve to give the young arms
(Mathews, Graceffo, Roby, Hence etc etc) a few months to progress.
Are you actually saying that Mathews should be on the roster to start the season????
If so.... you are even dumber than most everyone else here thinks you already are!
Tell us what YOU THINK should be done with Mathews??????
SMH

Mathews should be given the same opportunity to make the team as Graceffo, Roby, Hence and others that might be close. Mathews was Minor League "Pitcher of the Year" Were those other players you are referring to?

[Cusecards]

Frustrating to not have given him at least another start or two.

I agree. I'm not sure what the plan is for Mathews. Are the Cardinals being to restrictive with him? He's not exactly a youngster, so to speak. It looks to me like he is simply blocked, right now, by some bloated contracts.

Seriously???
Mathews is flipping 24 years old!
He has been on the rise and there is a strong chance he is the rotation late in the season!
In the meantime you have:
Gray
Fedde
Pallante
Mikolas
Matz
To be followed by:
McGreevy
Graceffo?
Roby??

It took you three edits to post these pearls of wisdom???
His work load in the minors will continue to groom him as a starter.
My guess?
He is a regular in the rotation coming out of ST next season.
Yes by all means one more start with the big club in ST is the KEY!
My fingers are crossed that he doesn’t turn into a pumpkin by June.
SMH.....more classic stuff!!!

You think they Side Show Clown stole Shady's password?

Mathews needs to start every 5th day right now (March 2) and the place that is available is in minor league camp.

Whoever this “Shady” poster is all he does is ask rhetorical questions while offering nothing in a discussion.
Seeks attention only!
That being said:
Mathews has probably risen to become their #1 SP prospect edging slightly ahead of McGreevy & Hence.
He needs to start the season in AAA and keep progressing.
There is NO WAY he should start the season in St.Louis so WHY push him?
Especially when you need to evaluate the other arms who could/should start the season with the big club.
But by all means we need to see Mathews throw 5 or 6 more innings so CT posters can get a better look at him!
SMH LOL

"Especially when you need to evaluate the other arms who could/should start the season with the big club". Brilliant, continue to evaluate Mikolas and Matz when you have a potential true difference maker in Mathews.

I wasn’t referring to Mikolas & Matz GENIUS!!
They are on borrowed time.
Either could be dealt now or at the deadline.
Matz could easily wind up in the BP(assuming he is healthy) in favor of McGreevy.
Neither of them is back in 2026 but in the meantime they can serve to give the young arms
(Mathews, Graceffo, Roby, Hence etc etc) a few months to progress.
Are you actually saying that Mathews should be on the roster to start the season????
If so.... you are even dumber than most everyone else here thinks you already are!
Tell us what YOU THINK should be done with Mathews??????
SMH

Mathews should be given the same chance to make the team as Graceffo, Roby, and Hence.

Thank God you are not in a position to dictate what the team should do!!!!!
BTW.....congrats on your last post which took EIGHT EDITS and still made ZERO sense.
You have a gift for attention seeking babbling!
SMH

[Shady]

Frustrating to not have given him at least another start or two.

I agree. I'm not sure what the plan is for Mathews. Are the Cardinals being to restrictive with him? He's not exactly a youngster, so to speak. It looks to me like he is simply blocked, right now, by some bloated contracts.

Seriously???
Mathews is flipping 24 years old!
He has been on the rise and there is a strong chance he is the rotation late in the season!
In the meantime you have:
Gray
Fedde
Pallante
Mikolas
Matz
To be followed by:
McGreevy
Graceffo?
Roby??

It took you three edits to post these pearls of wisdom???
His work load in the minors will continue to groom him as a starter.
My guess?
He is a regular in the rotation coming out of ST next season.
Yes by all means one more start with the big club in ST is the KEY!
My fingers are crossed that he doesn’t turn into a pumpkin by June.
SMH.....more classic stuff!!!

You think they Side Show Clown stole Shady's password?

Mathews needs to start every 5th day right now (March 2) and the place that is available is in minor league camp.

Whoever this “Shady” poster is all he does is ask rhetorical questions while offering nothing in a discussion.
Seeks attention only!
That being said:
Mathews has probably risen to become their #1 SP prospect edging slightly ahead of McGreevy & Hence.
He needs to start the season in AAA and keep progressing.
There is NO WAY he should start the season in St.Louis so WHY push him?
Especially when you need to evaluate the other arms who could/should start the season with the big club.
But by all means we need to see Mathews throw 5 or 6 more innings so CT posters can get a better look at him!
SMH LOL

"Especially when you need to evaluate the other arms who could/should start the season with the big club". Brilliant, continue to evaluate Mikolas and Matz when you have a potential true difference maker in Mathews.

I wasn’t referring to Mikolas & Matz GENIUS!!
They are on borrowed time.
Either could be dealt now or at the deadline.
Matz could easily wind up in the BP(assuming he is healthy) in favor of McGreevy.
Neither of them is back in 2026 but in the meantime they can serve to give the young arms
(Mathews, Graceffo, Roby, Hence etc etc) a few months to progress.
Are you actually saying that Mathews should be on the roster to start the season????
If so.... you are even dumber than most everyone else here thinks you already are!
Tell us what YOU THINK should be done with Mathews??????
SMH

Mathews should be given the same chance to make the team as Graceffo, Roby, and Hence.

Thank God you are not in a position to dictate what the team should do!!!!!
BTW.....congrats on your last post which took EIGHT EDITS and still made ZERO sense.
You have a gift for attention seeking babbling!
SMH

".congrats on your last post which took EIGHT EDITS and still made ZERO sense". You don't make sense even without edits. Why can't we disagree without you being a jerk? You are not worthy of being condescending toward me. You may think you are. But you fooling yourself.

[Cusecards]

Frustrating to not have given him at least another start or two.

I agree. I'm not sure what the plan is for Mathews. Are the Cardinals being to restrictive with him? He's not exactly a youngster, so to speak. It looks to me like he is simply blocked, right now, by some bloated contracts.

Seriously???
Mathews is flipping 24 years old!
He has been on the rise and there is a strong chance he is the rotation late in the season!
In the meantime you have:
Gray
Fedde
Pallante
Mikolas
Matz
To be followed by:
McGreevy
Graceffo?
Roby??

It took you three edits to post these pearls of wisdom???
His work load in the minors will continue to groom him as a starter.
My guess?
He is a regular in the rotation coming out of ST next season.
Yes by all means one more start with the big club in ST is the KEY!
My fingers are crossed that he doesn’t turn into a pumpkin by June.
SMH.....more classic stuff!!!

You think they Side Show Clown stole Shady's password?

Mathews needs to start every 5th day right now (March 2) and the place that is available is in minor league camp.

Whoever this “Shady” poster is all he does is ask rhetorical questions while offering nothing in a discussion.
Seeks attention only!
That being said:
Mathews has probably risen to become their #1 SP prospect edging slightly ahead of McGreevy & Hence.
He needs to start the season in AAA and keep progressing.
There is NO WAY he should start the season in St.Louis so WHY push him?
Especially when you need to evaluate the other arms who could/should start the season with the big club.
But by all means we need to see Mathews throw 5 or 6 more innings so CT posters can get a better look at him!
SMH LOL

"Especially when you need to evaluate the other arms who could/should start the season with the big club". Brilliant, continue to evaluate Mikolas and Matz when you have a potential true difference maker in Mathews.

I wasn’t referring to Mikolas & Matz GENIUS!!
They are on borrowed time.
Either could be dealt now or at the deadline.
Matz could easily wind up in the BP(assuming he is healthy) in favor of McGreevy.
Neither of them is back in 2026 but in the meantime they can serve to give the young arms
(Mathews, Graceffo, Roby, Hence etc etc) a few months to progress.
Are you actually saying that Mathews should be on the roster to start the season????
If so.... you are even dumber than most everyone else here thinks you already are!
Tell us what YOU THINK should be done with Mathews??????
SMH

Mathews should be given the same chance to make the team as Graceffo, Roby, and Hence.

Thank God you are not in a position to dictate what the team should do!!!!!
BTW.....congrats on your last post which took EIGHT EDITS and still made ZERO sense.
You have a gift for attention seeking babbling!
SMH

".congrats on your last post which took EIGHT EDITS and still made ZERO sense". You don't make sense even without edits. Why can't we disagree without you being a jerk?

Every poster on this forum knows who and what you are. LOL

[Shady]

The Cardinals have seemed to rush some other young players. But when they have a truly legitimate, high level starting pitcher prospect already 24 years old. They seem hesitant to bring him up. Even though, a top of the rotation starting pitcher is a glaring need. IMO, Mathews would be in the starting rotation for some MLB clubs at the start of the season. Some, being a lot better teams than the Cardinals.

[NYCardsFan]

The Cardinals have seemed to rush some other young players. But when they have a truly legitimate, high level starting pitcher prospect already 24 years old. They are hesitant to bring him up. Eventhough, a top of the rotation starting pitcher is a glaring need.

The problem is you hype every prospect as “high level” and absurdly compare them to all stars and HOFers. Then you 1) routinely push for premature promotions of these prospects; 2) quickly abandon them the minute they start to struggle; and then 3) move on to the next bright, shiny object. Wash, rinse, repeat. You want to manage a MLB franchise like it’s a daily high school open tryout. You’re a joke whom no one takes seriously.

But enjoy this attention.

[Lloyd Braun]

He's only 24 years old... far too young to bring up

They are reverting back to their old ways. 25 or forget it.

If you are of the feeling that he should be in the rotation, who are you bouncing for him, Pallante or McGreevy, and why? Where are you sending them, AAA?

Why would either of them get bounced from the rotation?

Gray, Fedde, McGreevey, Pallante and Matthews

[An Old Friend]

He's only 24 years old... far too young to bring up

They are reverting back to their old ways. 25 or forget it.

If you are of the feeling that he should be in the rotation, who are you bouncing for him, Pallante or McGreevy, and why? Where are you sending them, AAA?

Why would either of them get bounced from the rotation?

Gray, Fedde, McGreevey, Pallante and Matthews

I guess you can pretend Miles Mikolas doesn’t exist if you want.

[Futuregm2]

He's only 24 years old... far too young to bring up

They are reverting back to their old ways. 25 or forget it.

If you are of the feeling that he should be in the rotation, who are you bouncing for him, Pallante or McGreevy, and why? Where are you sending them, AAA?

Why would either of them get bounced from the rotation?

Gray, Fedde, McGreevey, Pallante and Matthews

I guess you can pretend Miles Mikolas doesn’t exist if you want.

I wish he didn’t.

[Shady]

He's only 24 years old... far too young to bring up

They are reverting back to their old ways. 25 or forget it.

If you are of the feeling that he should be in the rotation, who are you bouncing for him, Pallante or McGreevy, and why? Where are you sending them, AAA?

Why would either of them get bounced from the rotation?

Gray, Fedde, McGreevey, Pallante and Matthews

"Gray, Fedde, McGreevey, Pallante and Matthews". That starting rotation just might enable the Cardinals to be serious Central Division contenders. But the Cardinals can't screw around too long before they try it. Actually, of the others, Roby just might be the better sixth starter for this team.

[Cusecards]

The Cardinals have seemed to rush some other young players. But when they have a truly legitimate, high level starting pitcher prospect already 24 years old. They are hesitant to bring him up. Eventhough, a top of the rotation starting pitcher is a glaring need.

The problem is you hype every prospect as “high level” and absurdly compare them to all stars and HOFers. Then you 1) routinely push for premature promotions of these prospects; 2) quickly abandon them the minute they start to struggle; and then 3) move on to the next bright, shiny object. Wash, rinse, repeat. You want to manage a MLB franchise like it’s a daily high school open tryout. You’re a joke whom no one takes seriously.

But enjoy this attention.

A thousand thanks!!
So....the Cards are “hesitant” to promote Mathews who is quickly becoming “over the hill” at the ripe age of 24?
2023- Star pitcher at Stanford.
2024- FIRST season in the pros! Progressed from:
A to
A+ to
AA to
AAA where he made all of TWO starts.
Invited to ST where he turned heads.
Will start the season at AAA I assume but is clearly on the fast track!
But.....by all means.....throw him out there to start the season as he is clearly on borrowed time!

I can understand a certain need for attention but LMFAO!

[An Old Friend]

The Cardinals have seemed to rush some other young players. But when they have a truly legitimate, high level starting pitcher prospect already 24 years old. They are hesitant to bring him up. Eventhough, a top of the rotation starting pitcher is a glaring need.

The problem is you hype every prospect as “high level” and absurdly compare them to all stars and HOFers. Then you 1) routinely push for premature promotions of these prospects; 2) quickly abandon them the minute they start to struggle; and then 3) move on to the next bright, shiny object. Wash, rinse, repeat. You want to manage a MLB franchise like it’s a daily high school open tryout. You’re a joke whom no one takes seriously.

But enjoy this attention.

A thousand thanks!!
So....the Cards are “hesitant” to promote Mathews who is quickly becoming “over the hill” at the ripe age of 24?
2023- Star pitcher at Stanford.
2024- FIRST season in the pros! Progressed from:
A to
A+ to
AA to
AAA where he made all of TWO starts.
Invited to ST where he turned heads.
Will start the season at AAA I assume but is clearly on the fast track!
But.....by all means.....throw him out there to start the season as he is clearly on borrowed time!

I can understand a certain need for attention but LMFAO!

Mathews made 4 starts in AAA, and only 1 of them was decent.

He's headed where he should go.

[Cusecards]

The Cardinals have seemed to rush some other young players. But when they have a truly legitimate, high level starting pitcher prospect already 24 years old. They are hesitant to bring him up. Eventhough, a top of the rotation starting pitcher is a glaring need.

The problem is you hype every prospect as “high level” and absurdly compare them to all stars and HOFers. Then you 1) routinely push for premature promotions of these prospects; 2) quickly abandon them the minute they start to struggle; and then 3) move on to the next bright, shiny object. Wash, rinse, repeat. You want to manage a MLB franchise like it’s a daily high school open tryout. You’re a joke whom no one takes seriously.

But enjoy this attention.

A thousand thanks!!
So....the Cards are “hesitant” to promote Mathews who is quickly becoming “over the hill” at the ripe age of 24?
2023- Star pitcher at Stanford.
2024- FIRST season in the pros! Progressed from:
A to
A+ to
AA to
AAA where he made all of TWO starts.
Invited to ST where he turned heads.
Will start the season at AAA I assume but is clearly on the fast track!
But.....by all means.....throw him out there to start the season as he is clearly on borrowed time!

I can understand a certain need for attention but LMFAO!

Mathews made 4 starts in AAA, and only 1 of them was decent.

He's headed where he should go.

I stand corrected. He did make 4 starts.
I saw 0-2. My bad!
Still.....while I think he has the highest upside of their SP prospects....start him at AAA.