Ovechkin pass Gretzy?

[Web7]

99 would have been just as good in todays game …… he would have been unstoppable on the power play….

[theograce]

Bieksa was talking about how much harder ovie is/was to cover than a guy like Crosby.

Much more unpredictable

3,682 hits. Pretty much doubling a guy like Benn. More than reaves. Heavy, heavy hits too in his late 30’s. I’m almost as impressed with that.

Legend

[Cardsfanforlife]

Bieksa was talking about how much harder ovie is/was to cover than a guy like Crosby.

Much more unpredictable

3,682 hits. Pretty much doubling a guy like Benn. More than reaves. Heavy, heavy hits too in his late 30’s. I’m almost as impressed with that.

Legend

Absolutely, and at 40 yrs old. Bananas.

[GCBluesFan]

10 to tie. 11 to beat.

[Lloyd Braun]

Imagine how many goals Ovie would have scored had he played in a more scoring friendly era during his prime?

[thegibby.]

like Hull, always in the right place at the right time. just a broken play today, ends up on his stick. and 64 eng's. crazy!

[82birds]

10 to tie. 11 to beat.

yup

[Hazelwood72]

Bieksa was talking about how much harder ovie is/was to cover than a guy like Crosby.

Much more unpredictable

3,682 hits. Pretty much doubling a guy like Benn. More than reaves. Heavy, heavy hits too in his late 30’s. I’m almost as impressed with that.

Legend

When you compare eras, Gretz played in the highest scoring era in my lifetime (I’m 71). Goalies like me wore heavy, short pads. We had to skate out to cut down the angle thus being vulnerable to back door goals. The center ice trap hadn’t been invented by the Devils yet. Taking nothing away from Wayne, Ovie’s performance is truly stud-like, when you consider Gretz had a fabulous cadre of teammates in the glory days in Edmonton.

Heck, think about it. Wayne won 4 Cups with Messier. Messier won 2 more without Gretz! Messier IMO is one of the most underrated players ever.

And…..all that said, I still rate Bobby Orr as the greatest of all time. He utterly CHANGED the game. Before Orr, defensemen hardly ever got more than 25 points a year or 5 goals a year. I still see Orr’s headlong 190 foot rink length rushes, and his ability to quickly get back and play defense in his own zone.

It’s always an interesting convo comparing athletes from different generations.

[theograce]

Bieksa was talking about how much harder ovie is/was to cover than a guy like Crosby.

Much more unpredictable

3,682 hits. Pretty much doubling a guy like Benn. More than reaves. Heavy, heavy hits too in his late 30’s. I’m almost as impressed with that.

Legend

When you compare eras, Gretz played in the highest scoring era in my lifetime (I’m 71). Goalies like me wore heavy, short pads. We had to skate out to cut down the angle thus being vulnerable to back door goals. The center ice trap hadn’t been invented by the Devils yet. Taking nothing away from Wayne, Ovie’s performance is truly stud-like, when you consider Gretz had a fabulous cadre of teammates in the glory days in Edmonton.

Heck, think about it. Wayne won 4 Cups with Messier. Messier won 2 more without Gretz! Messier IMO is one of the most underrated players ever.

And…..all that said, I still rate Bobby Orr as the greatest of all time. He utterly CHANGED the game. Before Orr, defensemen hardly ever got more than 25 points a year or 5 goals a year. I still see Orr’s headlong 190 foot rink length rushes, and his ability to quickly get back and play defense in his own zone.

It’s always an interesting convo comparing athletes from different generations.

Orr was great. But let’s be honest the competition really wasn’t too amazing. It’s hard to compare generations like you said

[Hazelwood72]

Bieksa was talking about how much harder ovie is/was to cover than a guy like Crosby.

Much more unpredictable

3,682 hits. Pretty much doubling a guy like Benn. More than reaves. Heavy, heavy hits too in his late 30’s. I’m almost as impressed with that.

Legend

When you compare eras, Gretz played in the highest scoring era in my lifetime (I’m 71). Goalies like me wore heavy, short pads. We had to skate out to cut down the angle thus being vulnerable to back door goals. The center ice trap hadn’t been invented by the Devils yet. Taking nothing away from Wayne, Ovie’s performance is truly stud-like, when you consider Gretz had a fabulous cadre of teammates in the glory days in Edmonton.

Heck, think about it. Wayne won 4 Cups with Messier. Messier won 2 more without Gretz! Messier IMO is one of the most underrated players ever.

And…..all that said, I still rate Bobby Orr as the greatest of all time. He utterly CHANGED the game. Before Orr, defensemen hardly ever got more than 25 points a year or 5 goals a year. I still see Orr’s headlong 190 foot rink length rushes, and his ability to quickly get back and play defense in his own zone.

It’s always an interesting convo comparing athletes from different generations.

Orr was great. But let’s be honest the competition really wasn’t too amazing. It’s hard to compare generations like you said

Good point about the competition. While there were fewer NHL teams and theoretically less dilution, the WHA started up and pulled a lot of the NHL’ers over where salaries were better (at least until the WHA started running out of money).

[theograce]

Bieksa was talking about how much harder ovie is/was to cover than a guy like Crosby.

Much more unpredictable

3,682 hits. Pretty much doubling a guy like Benn. More than reaves. Heavy, heavy hits too in his late 30’s. I’m almost as impressed with that.

Legend

When you compare eras, Gretz played in the highest scoring era in my lifetime (I’m 71). Goalies like me wore heavy, short pads. We had to skate out to cut down the angle thus being vulnerable to back door goals. The center ice trap hadn’t been invented by the Devils yet. Taking nothing away from Wayne, Ovie’s performance is truly stud-like, when you consider Gretz had a fabulous cadre of teammates in the glory days in Edmonton.

Heck, think about it. Wayne won 4 Cups with Messier. Messier won 2 more without Gretz! Messier IMO is one of the most underrated players ever.

And…..all that said, I still rate Bobby Orr as the greatest of all time. He utterly CHANGED the game. Before Orr, defensemen hardly ever got more than 25 points a year or 5 goals a year. I still see Orr’s headlong 190 foot rink length rushes, and his ability to quickly get back and play defense in his own zone.

It’s always an interesting convo comparing athletes from different generations.

Orr was great. But let’s be honest the competition really wasn’t too amazing. It’s hard to compare generations like you said

Good point about the competition. While there were fewer NHL teams and theoretically less dilution, the WHA started up and pulled a lot of the NHL’ers over where salaries were better (at least until the WHA started running out of money).

Guys were smoking, drinking and just Canadian farm boys. Different time … different athletes.

[Hazelwood72]

Bieksa was talking about how much harder ovie is/was to cover than a guy like Crosby.

Much more unpredictable

3,682 hits. Pretty much doubling a guy like Benn. More than reaves. Heavy, heavy hits too in his late 30’s. I’m almost as impressed with that.

Legend

When you compare eras, Gretz played in the highest scoring era in my lifetime (I’m 71). Goalies like me wore heavy, short pads. We had to skate out to cut down the angle thus being vulnerable to back door goals. The center ice trap hadn’t been invented by the Devils yet. Taking nothing away from Wayne, Ovie’s performance is truly stud-like, when you consider Gretz had a fabulous cadre of teammates in the glory days in Edmonton.

Heck, think about it. Wayne won 4 Cups with Messier. Messier won 2 more without Gretz! Messier IMO is one of the most underrated players ever.

And…..all that said, I still rate Bobby Orr as the greatest of all time. He utterly CHANGED the game. Before Orr, defensemen hardly ever got more than 25 points a year or 5 goals a year. I still see Orr’s headlong 190 foot rink length rushes, and his ability to quickly get back and play defense in his own zone.

It’s always an interesting convo comparing athletes from different generations.

Orr was great. But let’s be honest the competition really wasn’t too amazing. It’s hard to compare generations like you said

Good point about the competition. While there were fewer NHL teams and theoretically less dilution, the WHA started up and pulled a lot of the NHL’ers over where salaries were better (at least until the WHA started running out of money).

Guys were smoking, drinking and just Canadian farm boys. Different time … different athletes.

You got that right. And it wasn’t just Canadian boys in hockey. Lots of hilarious stories, smokers, coke heads, etc, in Major League Baseball and the NFL. I don’t follow the NBA, but I’m sure they had their “party boys” there too!

[theograce]

Bieksa was talking about how much harder ovie is/was to cover than a guy like Crosby.

Much more unpredictable

3,682 hits. Pretty much doubling a guy like Benn. More than reaves. Heavy, heavy hits too in his late 30’s. I’m almost as impressed with that.

Legend

When you compare eras, Gretz played in the highest scoring era in my lifetime (I’m 71). Goalies like me wore heavy, short pads. We had to skate out to cut down the angle thus being vulnerable to back door goals. The center ice trap hadn’t been invented by the Devils yet. Taking nothing away from Wayne, Ovie’s performance is truly stud-like, when you consider Gretz had a fabulous cadre of teammates in the glory days in Edmonton.

Heck, think about it. Wayne won 4 Cups with Messier. Messier won 2 more without Gretz! Messier IMO is one of the most underrated players ever.

And…..all that said, I still rate Bobby Orr as the greatest of all time. He utterly CHANGED the game. Before Orr, defensemen hardly ever got more than 25 points a year or 5 goals a year. I still see Orr’s headlong 190 foot rink length rushes, and his ability to quickly get back and play defense in his own zone.

It’s always an interesting convo comparing athletes from different generations.

Orr was great. But let’s be honest the competition really wasn’t too amazing. It’s hard to compare generations like you said

Good point about the competition. While there were fewer NHL teams and theoretically less dilution, the WHA started up and pulled a lot of the NHL’ers over where salaries were better (at least until the WHA started running out of money).

Guys were smoking, drinking and just Canadian farm boys. Different time … different athletes.

You got that right. And it wasn’t just Canadian boys in hockey. Lots of hilarious stories, smokers, coke heads, etc, in Major League Baseball and the NFL. I don’t follow the NBA, but I’m sure they had their “party boys” there too!

Mike Bossy smoked 2 packs a day. That always floored me given how good he was

RIP Boss

[Inglewood Jack]

Bieksa was talking about how much harder ovie is/was to cover than a guy like Crosby.

Much more unpredictable

3,682 hits. Pretty much doubling a guy like Benn. More than reaves. Heavy, heavy hits too in his late 30’s. I’m almost as impressed with that.

Legend

When you compare eras, Gretz played in the highest scoring era in my lifetime (I’m 71). Goalies like me wore heavy, short pads. We had to skate out to cut down the angle thus being vulnerable to back door goals. The center ice trap hadn’t been invented by the Devils yet. Taking nothing away from Wayne, Ovie’s performance is truly stud-like, when you consider Gretz had a fabulous cadre of teammates in the glory days in Edmonton.

Heck, think about it. Wayne won 4 Cups with Messier. Messier won 2 more without Gretz! Messier IMO is one of the most underrated players ever.

And…..all that said, I still rate Bobby Orr as the greatest of all time. He utterly CHANGED the game. Before Orr, defensemen hardly ever got more than 25 points a year or 5 goals a year. I still see Orr’s headlong 190 foot rink length rushes, and his ability to quickly get back and play defense in his own zone.

It’s always an interesting convo comparing athletes from different generations.

Orr was great. But let’s be honest the competition really wasn’t too amazing. It’s hard to compare generations like you said

Good point about the competition. While there were fewer NHL teams and theoretically less dilution, the WHA started up and pulled a lot of the NHL’ers over where salaries were better (at least until the WHA started running out of money).

Gretzky is the greatest, statstically speaking. He is outside the curve and just completely obliterates any other sports comparisons. It is a crazy discrepancy / outlier when comparing within and without his era. There should have been someone comparative to his results in his era, but there isnt. Not taking away from any others, but his numbers are insane. And i am in the Orr fanclub....

[thegibby.]

Bieksa was talking about how much harder ovie is/was to cover than a guy like Crosby.

Much more unpredictable

3,682 hits. Pretty much doubling a guy like Benn. More than reaves. Heavy, heavy hits too in his late 30’s. I’m almost as impressed with that.

Legend

When you compare eras, Gretz played in the highest scoring era in my lifetime (I’m 71). Goalies like me wore heavy, short pads. We had to skate out to cut down the angle thus being vulnerable to back door goals. The center ice trap hadn’t been invented by the Devils yet. Taking nothing away from Wayne, Ovie’s performance is truly stud-like, when you consider Gretz had a fabulous cadre of teammates in the glory days in Edmonton.

Heck, think about it. Wayne won 4 Cups with Messier. Messier won 2 more without Gretz! Messier IMO is one of the most underrated players ever.

And…..all that said, I still rate Bobby Orr as the greatest of all time. He utterly CHANGED the game. Before Orr, defensemen hardly ever got more than 25 points a year or 5 goals a year. I still see Orr’s headlong 190 foot rink length rushes, and his ability to quickly get back and play defense in his own zone.

It’s always an interesting convo comparing athletes from different generations.

Orr was great. But let’s be honest the competition really wasn’t too amazing. It’s hard to compare generations like you said

Good point about the competition. While there were fewer NHL teams and theoretically less dilution, the WHA started up and pulled a lot of the NHL’ers over where salaries were better (at least until the WHA started running out of money).

Guys were smoking, drinking and just Canadian farm boys. Different time … different athletes.

You got that right. And it wasn’t just Canadian boys in hockey. Lots of hilarious stories, smokers, coke heads, etc, in Major League Baseball and the NFL. I don’t follow the NBA, but I’m sure they had their “party boys” there too!

Mike Bossy smoked 2 packs a day. That always floored me given how good he was

RIP Boss

Imagine if Chris Mason never smoked.

Seriously though, Guy LaFleur was also a big smoker.

[theograce]

I wonder if the Caps have something special planned for him for when/after it happens.