Perunovich for a 5th

[STL fan in MN]

People expecting a mid-2nd round pick to be amazing simply don’t know the history or the odds. It happens but it’s far from likely or should be expected.

A 2nd round pick has a little under a 40% chance of playing 100 NHL games over his entire career. Little Scotty P, with all of his injuries, has already surpassed that.
https://thehockeywriters.com/success-ra ... aft-picks/

And obviously not all 2nd round picks are rated equally as guys picked 33rd, 34th etc are more likely to make it than guys locked 63rd, 64th etc. But this article groups all picks after the 1st round together. Scotty was drafted 45th.

Here’s the 2018 draft - https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2018e.html Go look after pick 45 and tell me what amazing player they should’ve taken instead. Sean Durzi?

Perunovich didn’t end up being the best player but the stats show he’s actually performed better than the average 2nd round pick. He’s already had a longer career than a majority of 2nd round picks. And his career isn’t over yet. His weaknesses are obvious (size) but he was a decent gamble in the mid-2nd. Very talented. Was and still is. Obvious NHL skill. Just wasn’t able to overcome the size factor to become an everyday NHLer, which isn’t all that surprising.

If we’re going to fire entire scouting staffs for making picks like the Blues did with Perunovich, then the staffs of all 32 teams would be fired. It’s silly and ridiculous.

[Aesa]

What I want to know is what Blues Scout(s) liked Perunovich. Those guys should be sent out of town on the same truck as Perunovich.

As my ol' saying goes, "That was back in '37." Let it go.

But the guys back in "37, are still here is my fear.

Tough for the guys in '37 to be there at all considering there was no organization until '67.

[sdaltons]

But anyway I know you are fully committed to discrediting everyone in the front office, so there's really no point in continuing with you. It's going to be ok. Enjoy.

I'm fully committed to calling out what the problem is because few are.

As Perunovich was leaving town, Armstrong was ONLY concerned with "blowing kisses" to Perunovich on his way out. Are you f-ing serious? Don't waste your breadth and my time with that.

Army should be "explaining the reason for the Perunovich failure" to the faithful fans in St Louis. It's called accountability.

You aren't holding him accountable though. You are just complaining on an anonymous message board. And it doesn't matter if you convince 1 or 10 or 20 posters on here to take up the cause. Those who choose to do so will still just be complaining on an anonymous message board. He's not going to come on here and explain it to you.

I wish you the best though.

[Harry S Deals]

People expecting a mid-2nd round pick to be amazing simply don’t know the history or the odds. It happens but it’s far from likely or should be expected.

A 2nd round pick has a little under a 40% chance of playing 100 NHL games over his entire career. Little Scotty P, with all of his injuries, has already surpassed that.
https://thehockeywriters.com/success-ra ... aft-picks/

And obviously not all 2nd round picks are rated equally as guys picked 33rd, 34th etc are more likely to make it than guys locked 63rd, 64th etc. But this article groups all picks after the 1st round together. Scotty was drafted 45th.

Here’s the 2018 draft - https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2018e.html Go look after pick 45 and tell me what amazing player they should’ve taken instead. Sean Durzi?

Perunovich didn’t end up being the best player but the stats show he’s actually performed better than the average 2nd round pick. He’s already had a longer career than a majority of 2nd round picks. And his career isn’t over yet. His weaknesses are obvious (size) but he was a decent gamble in the mid-2nd. Very talented. Was and still is. Obvious NHL skill. Just wasn’t able to overcome the size factor to become an everyday NHLer, which isn’t all that surprising.

If we’re going to fire entire scouting staffs for making picks like the Blues did with Perunovich, then the staffs of all 32 teams would be fired. It’s silly and ridiculous.

The fact we didnt take Sharangovich is beyond me......

[Sweet Jones]

People expecting a mid-2nd round pick to be amazing simply don’t know the history or the odds. It happens but it’s far from likely or should be expected.

A 2nd round pick has a little under a 40% chance of playing 100 NHL games over his entire career. Little Scotty P, with all of his injuries, has already surpassed that.
https://thehockeywriters.com/success-ra ... aft-picks/

And obviously not all 2nd round picks are rated equally as guys picked 33rd, 34th etc are more likely to make it than guys locked 63rd, 64th etc. But this article groups all picks after the 1st round together. Scotty was drafted 45th.

Here’s the 2018 draft - https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2018e.html Go look after pick 45 and tell me what amazing player they should’ve taken instead. Sean Durzi?

Perunovich didn’t end up being the best player but the stats show he’s actually performed better than the average 2nd round pick. He’s already had a longer career than a majority of 2nd round picks. And his career isn’t over yet. His weaknesses are obvious (size) but he was a decent gamble in the mid-2nd. Very talented. Was and still is. Obvious NHL skill. Just wasn’t able to overcome the size factor to become an everyday NHLer, which isn’t all that surprising.

If we’re going to fire entire scouting staffs for making picks like the Blues did with Perunovich, then the staffs of all 32 teams would be fired. It’s silly and ridiculous.

For reference

[Pierre McGuire]

People expecting a mid-2nd round pick to be amazing simply don’t know the history or the odds. It happens but it’s far from likely or should be expected.

A 2nd round pick has a little under a 40% chance of playing 100 NHL games over his entire career. Little Scotty P, with all of his injuries, has already surpassed that.
https://thehockeywriters.com/success-ra ... aft-picks/

And obviously not all 2nd round picks are rated equally as guys picked 33rd, 34th etc are more likely to make it than guys locked 63rd, 64th etc. But this article groups all picks after the 1st round together. Scotty was drafted 45th.

Here’s the 2018 draft - https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2018e.html Go look after pick 45 and tell me what amazing player they should’ve taken instead. Sean Durzi?

Perunovich didn’t end up being the best player but the stats show he’s actually performed better than the average 2nd round pick. He’s already had a longer career than a majority of 2nd round picks. And his career isn’t over yet. His weaknesses are obvious (size) but he was a decent gamble in the mid-2nd. Very talented. Was and still is. Obvious NHL skill. Just wasn’t able to overcome the size factor to become an everyday NHLer, which isn’t all that surprising.

If we’re going to fire entire scouting staffs for making picks like the Blues did with Perunovich, then the staffs of all 32 teams would be fired. It’s silly and ridiculous.

The fact we didnt take Sharangovich is beyond me......

You can play that game all day. Don’t even get me started on that Toby Ducolon selection back in the day

[Harry S Deals]

People expecting a mid-2nd round pick to be amazing simply don’t know the history or the odds. It happens but it’s far from likely or should be expected.

A 2nd round pick has a little under a 40% chance of playing 100 NHL games over his entire career. Little Scotty P, with all of his injuries, has already surpassed that.
https://thehockeywriters.com/success-ra ... aft-picks/

And obviously not all 2nd round picks are rated equally as guys picked 33rd, 34th etc are more likely to make it than guys locked 63rd, 64th etc. But this article groups all picks after the 1st round together. Scotty was drafted 45th.

Here’s the 2018 draft - https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2018e.html Go look after pick 45 and tell me what amazing player they should’ve taken instead. Sean Durzi?

Perunovich didn’t end up being the best player but the stats show he’s actually performed better than the average 2nd round pick. He’s already had a longer career than a majority of 2nd round picks. And his career isn’t over yet. His weaknesses are obvious (size) but he was a decent gamble in the mid-2nd. Very talented. Was and still is. Obvious NHL skill. Just wasn’t able to overcome the size factor to become an everyday NHLer, which isn’t all that surprising.

If we’re going to fire entire scouting staffs for making picks like the Blues did with Perunovich, then the staffs of all 32 teams would be fired. It’s silly and ridiculous.

The fact we didnt take Sharangovich is beyond me......

You can play that game all day. Don’t even get me started on that Toby Ducolon selection back in the day

Lol, right?

[neverchange27]

Great job DA. A fifth lol.

[a smell of green grass]

But anyway I know you are fully committed to discrediting everyone in the front office, so there's really no point in continuing with you. It's going to be ok. Enjoy.

I'm fully committed to calling out what the problem is because few are.

As Perunovich was leaving town, Armstrong was ONLY concerned with "blowing kisses" to Perunovich on his way out. Are you f-ing serious? Don't waste your breadth and my time with that.

Army should be "explaining the reason for the Perunovich failure" to the faithful fans in St Louis. It's called accountability.

You aren't holding him accountable though. You are just complaining on an anonymous message board. And it doesn't matter if you convince 1 or 10 or 20 posters on here to take up the cause. Those who choose to do so will still just be complaining on an anonymous message board. He's not going to come on here and explain it to you.

I wish you the best though.

Same goes for the Army mom's out there. Your breast milk will not find Army.

Not sure why you are pointing out the obvious.

I'm not here to talk to Army. I here to exchange ideas with the other fans.

[neverchange27]

Just a few months ago, a lot of people on here were absolutely berating anyone questioning him and saying he hasn't been given a chance and had this huge untapped potential. Now, for a conditional 5th, it's crickets?

I am all for getting something for an essentially worthless player but where did all those Scotty P fans go? Anyone want to apologize for some of the vile, disrespectful things said to some of us that dared to question his value? I assume not...

They are Blues fans, what can we expect?

[britishblue]

People expecting a mid-2nd round pick to be amazing simply don’t know the history or the odds. It happens but it’s far from likely or should be expected.

A 2nd round pick has a little under a 40% chance of playing 100 NHL games over his entire career. Little Scotty P, with all of his injuries, has already surpassed that.
https://thehockeywriters.com/success-ra ... aft-picks/

And obviously not all 2nd round picks are rated equally as guys picked 33rd, 34th etc are more likely to make it than guys locked 63rd, 64th etc. But this article groups all picks after the 1st round together. Scotty was drafted 45th.

Here’s the 2018 draft - https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2018e.html Go look after pick 45 and tell me what amazing player they should’ve taken instead. Sean Durzi?

Perunovich didn’t end up being the best player but the stats show he’s actually performed better than the average 2nd round pick. He’s already had a longer career than a majority of 2nd round picks. And his career isn’t over yet. His weaknesses are obvious (size) but he was a decent gamble in the mid-2nd. Very talented. Was and still is. Obvious NHL skill. Just wasn’t able to overcome the size factor to become an everyday NHLer, which isn’t all that surprising.

If we’re going to fire entire scouting staffs for making picks like the Blues did with Perunovich, then the staffs of all 32 teams would be fired. It’s silly and ridiculous.

Spot on.

The value some people attribute to picks is insane imo. Obviouslty you still value the chance of getting nhl games down the road and you absolutely can find diamonds in the later rounds etc but chances are they dont amount to meaningful NHL talent.

Its why i had no issue with trading for Fowler. There is a good chance whoever gets picked with the picks we sent play less nhl games then fowler plays games for us over the next year and a bit. Not to mention the NHL games, should they happen, wont be until the early to mid 2030's ....

[a smell of green grass]

I just saw a Venn Diagram...

The people who say that Perunovich was a 2nd round pick, so you shouldn't expect anything from him

overlap 100%

with the people who say that Army's 2022, 2023, 2024 picks are going to bring us a Cup.

and overlap 100%

with the people who say that Army is the absolute best GM

[bluetunehead]

People expecting a mid-2nd round pick to be amazing simply don’t know the history or the odds. It happens but it’s far from likely or should be expected.

A 2nd round pick has a little under a 40% chance of playing 100 NHL games over his entire career. Little Scotty P, with all of his injuries, has already surpassed that.
https://thehockeywriters.com/success-ra ... aft-picks/

And obviously not all 2nd round picks are rated equally as guys picked 33rd, 34th etc are more likely to make it than guys locked 63rd, 64th etc. But this article groups all picks after the 1st round together. Scotty was drafted 45th.

Here’s the 2018 draft - https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2018e.html Go look after pick 45 and tell me what amazing player they should’ve taken instead. Sean Durzi?

Perunovich didn’t end up being the best player but the stats show he’s actually performed better than the average 2nd round pick. He’s already had a longer career than a majority of 2nd round picks. And his career isn’t over yet. His weaknesses are obvious (size) but he was a decent gamble in the mid-2nd. Very talented. Was and still is. Obvious NHL skill. Just wasn’t able to overcome the size factor to become an everyday NHLer, which isn’t all that surprising.

If we’re going to fire entire scouting staffs for making picks like the Blues did with Perunovich, then the staffs of all 32 teams would be fired. It’s silly and ridiculous.

The fact we didnt take Sharangovich is beyond me......

It didn’t surprise a single NHL team since he wasn’t picked until Round 5.

[blues2112]

People expecting a mid-2nd round pick to be amazing simply don’t know the history or the odds. It happens but it’s far from likely or should be expected.

A 2nd round pick has a little under a 40% chance of playing 100 NHL games over his entire career. Little Scotty P, with all of his injuries, has already surpassed that.
https://thehockeywriters.com/success-ra ... aft-picks/

And obviously not all 2nd round picks are rated equally as guys picked 33rd, 34th etc are more likely to make it than guys locked 63rd, 64th etc. But this article groups all picks after the 1st round together. Scotty was drafted 45th.

Here’s the 2018 draft - https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2018e.html Go look after pick 45 and tell me what amazing player they should’ve taken instead. Sean Durzi?

Perunovich didn’t end up being the best player but the stats show he’s actually performed better than the average 2nd round pick. He’s already had a longer career than a majority of 2nd round picks. And his career isn’t over yet. His weaknesses are obvious (size) but he was a decent gamble in the mid-2nd. Very talented. Was and still is. Obvious NHL skill. Just wasn’t able to overcome the size factor to become an everyday NHLer, which isn’t all that surprising.

If we’re going to fire entire scouting staffs for making picks like the Blues did with Perunovich, then the staffs of all 32 teams would be fired. It’s silly and ridiculous.

Absolutely great, well-documented post.

Nice work!!!!

[netboy65]

I just saw a Venn Diagram...

The people who say that Perunovich was a 2nd round pick, so you shouldn't expect anything from him

overlap 100%

with the people who say that Army's 2022, 2023, 2024 picks are going to bring us a Cup.

and overlap 100%

with the people who say that Army is the absolute best GM

I don’t think anyone has said any of those things.

[neverchange27]

Blues fans played again. They enjoy it.