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Re: Megalopolis

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Pink Freud wrote: 01 Oct 2024 15:49 pm
3dender wrote: 01 Oct 2024 07:31 am
Acknowledging being an other-peoples'-opinions compiler doesn't automatically make compiling other peoples' opinions a useful contribution to a discussion.
The only "useful contribution" you've made to this "discussion" is trashing MY contribution. Keep up your fine work. We can't wait for your next breathless dispatch we can etch into stone.
That poster is one of the single reasons I rarely come to this forum for movie reviews.

They are bitter and their main goal is to make everyone else bitter.

If you have two cartons of milk, one spoiled and one fresh, mixing the two will unfortunately only give you a lot of spoiled and undrinkable milk. It’s better to just cut your losses and throw the spoiled milk away.
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Re: Megalopolis

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NorthernBird wrote: 02 Oct 2024 06:25 am
Pink Freud wrote: 01 Oct 2024 15:49 pm
3dender wrote: 01 Oct 2024 07:31 am
Acknowledging being an other-peoples'-opinions compiler doesn't automatically make compiling other peoples' opinions a useful contribution to a discussion.
The only "useful contribution" you've made to this "discussion" is trashing MY contribution. Keep up your fine work. We can't wait for your next breathless dispatch we can etch into stone.
That poster is one of the single reasons I rarely come to this forum for movie reviews.

They are bitter and their main goal is to make everyone else bitter.

If you have two cartons of milk, one spoiled and one fresh, mixing the two will unfortunately only give you a lot of spoiled and undrinkable milk. It’s better to just cut your losses and throw the spoiled milk away.
Dang I have a lot of power over you apparently, didn't even realize it. Have you considered simply blocking me?

The world's a bitter place, but here are some things that have made it less bitter for me lately:

Princess Mononoke
Howl's Moving Castle 20th Anniversary Re-release
Godzilla Minus One Minus Color
Pachinko
Abbott Elementary

Also excited to see Inside Out 2 and Decision to Leave, both in my queue.

As for the topic at hand, here's my contribution: I'll pass on this one until it's free. It looks like an interesting viewing experience but not one that I want to pay $20 for. It looks quite pretentious and self-indulgent, and those films rarely turn out satisfying (think something like Richard Kelly's Southland Tales). I also think there's a pretty strong moral argument for not giving Coppola money, since he allegedly sexually harassed extras on set and both employed and defended a known P[ositively] O[bnoxious] S[impleton] abuser like Shia LaBeouf (sp).
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Re: Megalopolis

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Well, I finally got around to seeing "Megalopolis" today, going in with, I promise, a completely open mind.

I found it to be, in one word....spectacular. :D A spectacle of sights, sounds, emotions, and yes....the "p" word that will get me banned if I say anymore in that regard, just like when I got a two day timeout for mentioning America's most popular sports organization.

But this film, which may have been written and directed by FFC, but looks and feels much more like a David Lynch epic, struck me as Coppola's very personal 2:15 take on one particular American and his sons, and what they may do with unmitigated power in the present and future, and that's what Coppola will take to his grave, as his final word on that topic. It's loaded with reflections of the fall of the Roman empire, complete with character names right out of classic lit.

In the film, Adam Driver --- a good actor, but, seriously, has there ever been an uglier leading man in American movies? --- is Cesar, the Hamlet-spouting protagonist who is a Nobel Prize winner for inventing "Megalon", a versatile, malleable, all-purpose building material he wants to reconstruct New City with, extending its uses to fabrics, human skin grafts, etc. I'm reminded of the invention of plastics from petroleum.

Madison Square Garden is the site of Greco-Roman Olympic-style wrestling and chariot races with the mayor looking on like a certain Russian reviewing the passing military might parade.

Cesar is so omnipotent that he obeys no laws. Not man's...not laws of time,…space,… biology,… nor even physics. His influence over his city is such that as his limo drives past iconic statues, they react like a Greek chorus commenting on his actions, morals, and judgment. Assassination? Just FA&FO. He takes as his lover a popular TV tabloid news reporter with the moniker Wow Platinum, played by a wildly out-there Aubrey Plaza.

The casting features characters that seem drawn from David Lynch and the first 40 pages of Esquire and the New York Times Style Magazine, i.e., kinky models in bizarre situations populated by Jon Voight, Shia LeBeouf, Laurence Fishburne, Talia Shire....and a star-making role for the luminous Nathalie Emmanuel, who looks like a hybrid of a young Helena Bonham Carter by way of Jennifer Beals and Bernadette Peters, as the Cesar-hating mayor’s (the always wonderful Giancarlo Esposito) daughter who falls into Cesar’s clutches. Other cast includes SNL’s Chloe Fineman, Jason Schwartzman, and Dustin Hoffman.

The film plays with time in terms of eras: Many tilts are toward the Roman empire; the mayor seeing his daughter in a New City tabloid hitting the clubs with Cesar with the front-page headline “Feds to City: Drop Dead”, a clear reference to when President Gerald Ford declined to bail New York out of bankruptcy in 1975, resulting in the Daily News headline “Ford to City: Drop Dead”. Several luxury cars appear to be from the 1950s. Art Deco is everywhere. An ominous Russian satellite looms miles above the city. “Pink Panther”-like motion detectors appear in one scene.

Roger Ebert used to say that a movie, viewed in a theater, should transport you to another world. “Megalopolis” certainly did that for me. If it’s still here next week I’ll see it again, since I lost 10 minutes due to my silent phone lighting up with emergency messages. Besides, there's so much to absorb I want to review what I missed while I watched. Critics and moviegoers complain about the Robert McKee-grad screenwriters who punch out boilerplate scripts ad nauseum? Not this one. There is absolutely nothing like it.

I strongly feel that 20 years from now "Megalopolis" will be regarded as a classic, especially when we see what America looks like in 20 years, encapsulated in the movie as Manhattan (or "New City"), but with obvious portent for America as a whole.
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Correction: Adam Driver's (Cesar) Manhattan of the future is not New City; it's New Rome. And the mayor's (Giancarlo Esposito*) last name is Cicero.

*Pronounced, much to my surprise, as "Es-POH-see-toh". 8O
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Pink Freud wrote: 02 Oct 2024 15:50 pm Well, I finally got around to seeing "Megalopolis" today, going in with, I promise, a completely open mind.

I found it to be, in one word....spectacular. :D A spectacle of sights, sounds, emotions, and yes....the "p" word that will get me banned if I say anymore in that regard, just like when I got a two day timeout for mentioning America's most popular sports organization.

But this film, which may have been written and directed by FFC, but looks and feels much more like a David Lynch epic, struck me as Coppola's very personal 2:15 take on one particular American and his sons, and what they may do with unmitigated power in the present and future, and that's what Coppola will take to his grave, as his final word on that topic. It's loaded with reflections of the fall of the Roman empire, complete with character names right out of classic lit.

In the film, Adam Driver --- a good actor, but, seriously, has there ever been an uglier leading man in American movies? --- is Cesar, the Hamlet-spouting protagonist who is a Nobel Prize winner for inventing "Megalon", a versatile, malleable, all-purpose building material he wants to reconstruct New City with, extending its uses to fabrics, human skin grafts, etc. I'm reminded of the invention of plastics from petroleum.

Madison Square Garden is the site of Greco-Roman Olympic-style wrestling and chariot races with the mayor looking on like a certain Russian reviewing the passing military might parade.

Cesar is so omnipotent that he obeys no laws. Not man's...not laws of time,…space,… biology,… nor even physics. His influence over his city is such that as his limo drives past iconic statues, they react like a Greek chorus commenting on his actions, morals, and judgment. Assassination? Just FA&FO. He takes as his lover a popular TV tabloid news reporter with the moniker Wow Platinum, played by a wildly out-there Aubrey Plaza.

The casting features characters that seem drawn from David Lynch and the first 40 pages of Esquire and the New York Times Style Magazine, i.e., kinky models in bizarre situations populated by Jon Voight, Shia LeBeouf, Laurence Fishburne, Talia Shire....and a star-making role for the luminous Nathalie Emmanuel, who looks like a hybrid of a young Helena Bonham Carter by way of Jennifer Beals and Bernadette Peters, as the Cesar-hating mayor’s (the always wonderful Giancarlo Esposito) daughter who falls into Cesar’s clutches. Other cast includes SNL’s Chloe Fineman, Jason Schwartzman, and Dustin Hoffman.

The film plays with time in terms of eras: Many tilts are toward the Roman empire; the mayor seeing his daughter in a New City tabloid hitting the clubs with Cesar with the front-page headline “Feds to City: Drop Dead”, a clear reference to when President Gerald Ford declined to bail New York out of bankruptcy in 1975, resulting in the Daily News headline “Ford to City: Drop Dead”. Several luxury cars appear to be from the 1950s. Art Deco is everywhere. An ominous Russian satellite looms miles above the city. “Pink Panther”-like motion detectors appear in one scene.

Roger Ebert used to say that a movie, viewed in a theater, should transport you to another world. “Megalopolis” certainly did that for me. If it’s still here next week I’ll see it again, since I lost 10 minutes due to my silent phone lighting up with emergency messages. Besides, there's so much to absorb I want to review what I missed while I watched. Critics and moviegoers complain about the Robert McKee-grad screenwriters who punch out boilerplate scripts ad nauseum? Not this one. There is absolutely nothing like it.

I strongly feel that 20 years from now "Megalopolis" will be regarded as a classic, especially when we see what America looks like in 20 years, encapsulated in the movie as Manhattan (or "New City"), but with obvious portent for America as a whole.
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Re: Megalopolis

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Dicktar2023 wrote: 26 Sep 2024 22:26 pm
edwin drood wrote: 26 Sep 2024 09:25 am Trailer:
https://youtu.be/pq6mvHZU0fc?si=LdprzC6jW9fYiTLL

Reviews are so-so, which is disappointing. Coppola comes with great expectations.
Great expectations? I'm trying to think of the last FCC movie that was watchable...definitely nothing he's made this century.
See "Megalopolis" in a theater and I'm betting you'll think it's a David Lynch film, with Shia LeBeouf's character on loan from the Fellini estate.
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