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mattmitchl44 wrote: 01 Aug 2024 08:15 amTeams know how their roster limits are going to change in September before the season starts.
If in March you knew there would be two extra roster spots in mid-August, how would you have managed your team differently?
I think you've heard at least four mangers - from different parts of the current standings - already say they are not in favor. That should probably indicate something.
Thanks for doing the math - keep those updates coming!
I dream of the day I develop the ability to count :wink:
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Quincy Varnish wrote: 01 Aug 2024 08:06 am
Cool Papa Con wrote: 01 Aug 2024 07:35 am I’m against it.

I’ve been actively divesting my Pitching Staff of Starting Pitchers to mitigate the Innings limit since the start of July and have kept lesser players to be the back up Catcher, simply because they offered role flexibility.

I do think 5 Bench Spots and 4 IL is the sweet spot. Same with the positions, with one difference maybe converting two ‘P’ to designated ‘RP’
Agree about the RP slots, but maybe we’d do 2 RP & 4 P… would bump total pitching spots to 11, same as current offense.
For next year…

Maybe up the IP number to 1600. I kind of enjoyed the aspect of having more SP going during the week, but got so far ahead w/Innings that I dedicated 5 Roles to Relief Pitching before the Start of August.
The innings limit is already 150 IP higher than the default, and probably too high when we have quite a few well below it. The average ML team comes in a tick below 1450 every year.

You were rostering too many SPs.
Finally, I would suggest dropping the $300 budget to $200. 10 members of the league haven’t spent 1/2 their allotment, and the two that would have surpassed the amount were the two who likely understood the system the best early on.
I think we had a few people that didn’t quite have a handle on how the FAB system worked from the beginning. Next time around… I suppose it could be lowered, but I don’t see the point.
I’ll admit to losing out on a lot of guys early on because I didn’t understand the long game for the dollar amount and have been slow to react to the FA cost. That said, I’ve made the 5th most moves and (obviously some from trades) and have only spent $60. That’s a whole lot of others who either had a similar experience as to me, where they didn’t understand the system or were slow to adapt.
Yep… we didn’t have much runway heading into the season, and I could have done a better job getting everyone up to speed.
Reducing the Budget will likely make for a more fair system across the board because the Waiver will play a larger role with bids being tighter, and not so spread out where you see bids of $15 beating out other competitive bids if $10, $6, $5, $4, $2, $1
Not sure it would make it more “fair” so much as it would make it more of a challenge. The default is $100, and that often gets blown through too early on. Anyway… this is a debate to be had in January, when there’s nothing else to discuss :wink:
I agree with some of your points.

I (personally) found the Starting Pitching I was rolling out earlier more enjoyable, because it immersed me more into the season as I followed more games due to the amount of chances one of my Starters might be pitching in a given day. To focus my flex position on the randomness of a Relief outing is kind of boring.

Since there are 15 Teams in the league, I might only see 2 Starters at a max/per day; which meant 5-6 Days of the week had some Starter being rolled out.

I mostly used the 5 SP spots as “in case I forget” type spots, then dedicated two ‘P’ to Relievers for the same reason.

IDK, maybe I allowed myself to be mislead by all the Pitching Slots. In hindsight, 5 Starting Pitcher Slots feels excessive in conjunction w/5 flexible pitching slots. Knowing that I am projected for a surplus of 106 Innings, I don’t know that I understand how many Starters I should have been rolling at any point.

As for the fairness aspect of the bidding, it goes back to the waiver. I had a Top 2 Waiver for months. It only benefited me on an nothingburger July bid for someone that neither I nor the other person felt required putting a $1/300 towards.

In the past and even at the MLB level, to have a Top Waiver came with some certainty you’d get an available player. Looking back at my prior FAB offers, I viewed $3-5 as a big offer w/some high-level certainty I might actually acquire the player. In July, $5 or nothing became the minimum and even then I saw bids of $10 fall short.

With a lower budget allotment, bids of $10 and up are a lot less frequent because they’re more risky w/the percentage being substantially more. This means more bids within the $1-4 range and therefore the Waiver playing a bigger factor in a team actually acquiring a highly sought player.

I also think it encourages more trading, because the reliance to spend budget becomes more conservative while remaining highly competitive and if someone misses out on a particular player, they may seek to trade with the person who won the bid.

Other than that, the Waiver is fairly useless with the wild swings in budgetary spending that saw $3 winning contested bids in April and now $10 bids not in July
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Cool Papa Con wrote: 01 Aug 2024 09:21 amI agree with some of your points.

I (personally) found the Starting Pitching I was rolling out earlier more enjoyable, because it immersed me more into the season as I followed more games due to the amount of chances one of my Starters might be pitching in a given day. To focus my flex position on the randomness of a Relief outing is kind of boring.

Since there are 15 Teams in the league, I might only see 2 Starters at a max/per day; which meant 5-6 Days of the week had some Starter being rolled out.

I mostly used the 5 SP spots as “in case I forget” type spots, then dedicated two ‘P’ to Relievers for the same reason.

IDK, maybe I allowed myself to be mislead by all the Pitching Slots. In hindsight, 5 Starting Pitcher Slots feels excessive in conjunction w/5 flexible pitching slots. Knowing that I am projected for a surplus of 106 Innings, I don’t know that I understand how many Starters I should have been rolling at any point.

As for the fairness aspect of the bidding, it goes back to the waiver. I had a Top 2 Waiver for months. It only benefited me on an nothingburger July bid for someone that neither I nor the other person felt required putting a $1/300 towards.

In the past and even at the MLB level, to have a Top Waiver came with some certainty you’d get an available player. Looking back at my prior FAB offers, I viewed $3-5 as a big offer w/some high-level certainty I might actually acquire the player. In July, $5 or nothing became the minimum and even then I saw bids of $10 fall short.

With a lower budget allotment, bids of $10 and up are a lot less frequent because they’re more risky w/the percentage being substantially more. This means more bids within the $1-4 range and therefore the Waiver playing a bigger factor in a team actually acquiring a highly sought player.

I also think it encourages more trading, because the reliance to spend budget becomes more conservative while remaining highly competitive and if someone misses out on a particular player, they may seek to trade with the person who won the bid.

Other than that, the Waiver is fairly useless with the wild swings in budgetary spending that saw $3 winning contested bids in April and now $10 bids not in July
Agree about waiver priority, but it did just determine who ended up w/ George Springer… the top 2 bids were both $30. When the FAB system is in place, those rare situations are the time waiver priority is meaningful as a tiebreaker. Otherwise it’s usually two no-bid claims, with neither manager particularly determined to get the player.

It’s become common practice to attach a $1 bid to any claim for which you want some surety to make the add. That’s (partially) why I set the budget so high - if you make a lot of claims, your budget can dwindle quickly, leaving little flexibility for the “big” claims.
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Wheres the big shot who was touting Anthony Santander before the season? Have to hand it to him, he nailed that one.
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alw80 wrote: 01 Aug 2024 18:40 pm Wheres the big shot who was touting Anthony Santander before the season? Have to hand it to him, he nailed that one.
Was it Brock #20?
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alw80 wrote: 01 Aug 2024 18:40 pm Wheres the big shot who was touting Anthony Santander before the season? Have to hand it to him, he nailed that one.
Here is the thread:
viewtopic.php?p=12653135#p12653135

Almost every one of his projections was a bad one.
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An Old Friend wrote: 01 Aug 2024 21:43 pm
alw80 wrote: 01 Aug 2024 18:40 pm Wheres the big shot who was touting Anthony Santander before the season? Have to hand it to him, he nailed that one.
Here is the thread:
viewtopic.php?p=12653135#p12653135

Almost every one of his projections was a bad one.
Yea, overall not good. Did hit Santander and Duran though.
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An Old Friend wrote: 01 Aug 2024 21:43 pm
alw80 wrote: 01 Aug 2024 18:40 pm Wheres the big shot who was touting Anthony Santander before the season? Have to hand it to him, he nailed that one.
Here is the thread:
viewtopic.php?p=12653135#p12653135

Almost every one of his projections was a bad one.
Quincy Varnish wrote: 18 Mar 2024 23:04 pm
Brock #20 wrote: 15 Mar 2024 16:24 pm1. Soto (OF) Yankees will have the best year that he has ever had, or ever will have.
2. Jimenez (OF) WSX and Hayes 3B Pitt. will finally live up to the hype, and have their best years ever.
3. Julien (2B) of the Twins will prove to be the sleeper of all MLB 2nd basemen.
4. Puk (SP) will become a K monster now that Florida has made him a SP
5. W. Langford (OF) Texas will win the AL ROY award, and will become a complete fantasy monster.
6. Elly DeLaCruz (SS) Reds will steal close to 70 bases
7. Torres (2B) Yankees, Santander (OF) Balt, Bregman (3B) Houston, will have some of their best years ever.
8. Perez (SP) Florida will become a top 5 SP
9. Lewis (3B) Twins will become a top 25 player
10. Skenes (SP) Pitt. will become a top 5 SP once he gets the call
11. Holliday (SS) Balt. is the real deal and 4 and 5 hit games will become frequent with him
12. Rizzo (1B) Yankees will bounce back and become fantasy relevant again.
I project that >41.6% of your predictions will be wrong.
Nailed it. :D
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An Old Friend wrote: 01 Aug 2024 21:43 pm
alw80 wrote: 01 Aug 2024 18:40 pm Wheres the big shot who was touting Anthony Santander before the season? Have to hand it to him, he nailed that one.
Here is the thread:
viewtopic.php?p=12653135#p12653135

Almost every one of his projections was a bad one.
I’m more impressed these exist because of the post dispatch “intern” that deleted every profile and reset the post counts
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Cool Papa Con wrote: 02 Aug 2024 06:46 am
An Old Friend wrote: 01 Aug 2024 21:43 pm
alw80 wrote: 01 Aug 2024 18:40 pm Wheres the big shot who was touting Anthony Santander before the season? Have to hand it to him, he nailed that one.
Here is the thread:
viewtopic.php?p=12653135#p12653135

Almost every one of his projections was a bad one.
I’m more impressed these exist because of the post dispatch “intern” that deleted every profile and reset the post counts
Not just the post counts - the “spring cleaning” also deleted all current posts of its victims. I think we lost about 15-20 pages of this thread. If only it had been an intern…
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FWIW - still willing to sell saves (Hader (22), Fairbanks (20), or Finnegan (28) for the rest of the year).

Surprised that some teams sitting in the high 20s or low 30s don't see a potential to make a strong pts. move up the board before the end of the year. Only 11 saves right now between 10 pts. (QV with 40 SVs) and 3 pts. (sdaltons with 29 SVs).
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mattmitchl44 wrote: 03 Aug 2024 10:49 am FWIW - still willing to sell saves (Hader (22), Fairbanks (20), or Finnegan (28) for the rest of the year).

Surprised that some teams sitting in the high 20s or low 30s don't see a potential to make a strong pts. move up the board before the end of the year. Only 11 saves right now between 10 pts. (QV with 40 SVs) and 3 pts. (sdaltons with 29 SVs).
Third of a season left. How many saves you actually buying in view of that. May need more than 1 to make an impactful move.

What are you seeking?
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mattmitchl44 wrote: 03 Aug 2024 10:49 am FWIW - still willing to sell saves (Hader (22), Fairbanks (20), or Finnegan (28) for the rest of the year).

Surprised that some teams sitting in the high 20s or low 30s don't see a potential to make a strong pts. move up the board before the end of the year. Only 11 saves right now between 10 pts. (QV with 40 SVs) and 3 pts. (sdaltons with 29 SVs).
As I shared, I’m open to dealing but needs to be fair value.
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An Old Friend wrote: 03 Aug 2024 12:04 pm
mattmitchl44 wrote: 03 Aug 2024 10:49 am FWIW - still willing to sell saves (Hader (22), Fairbanks (20), or Finnegan (28) for the rest of the year).

Surprised that some teams sitting in the high 20s or low 30s don't see a potential to make a strong pts. move up the board before the end of the year. Only 11 saves right now between 10 pts. (QV with 40 SVs) and 3 pts. (sdaltons with 29 SVs).
As I shared, I’m open to dealing but needs to be fair value.
You have Vodnik tho
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Quincy Varnish wrote: 04 Aug 2024 01:39 am
An Old Friend wrote: 03 Aug 2024 12:04 pm
mattmitchl44 wrote: 03 Aug 2024 10:49 am FWIW - still willing to sell saves (Hader (22), Fairbanks (20), or Finnegan (28) for the rest of the year).

Surprised that some teams sitting in the high 20s or low 30s don't see a potential to make a strong pts. move up the board before the end of the year. Only 11 saves right now between 10 pts. (QV with 40 SVs) and 3 pts. (sdaltons with 29 SVs).
As I shared, I’m open to dealing but needs to be fair value.
You have Vodnik tho
True, he’s a game changer.
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The world needs to know Tyler The Babe Fitzgerald...

Fantasy Pros 2024 Preseason Projection:
.219 AVG
.638 OPS
3 HR, 10 RBI, 11 Runs, 3 SB in 88 AB's

Tyler Fitzgerald live update:
.312 AVG
1.023 OPS
12 HR, 24 RBI, 29 Runs, 7 SB in 138 AB's

Big pickup by An Old Friend right before he blew up...

And how about the foresight to pickup Joey Bart 24 hours before Gabriel Moreno tears his groin?! LOL... a little lucky on that one, although sucks to lose Moreno. He was hitting .326 in the second half coming into tonight.
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