Page 1 of 4

LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 12:14 pm
by Shady
For the lineup, Right now. Could it be Church in LF and Gorman at 3B vs RHP? And Saggese in LF and Urias at 3B vs LhP.

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 12:58 pm
by JohnnyMO
Pretty sure 3B is Gorman's most days with some days off against some lefties. Left field I'm less confident about, but Church and Saggese are front runners.

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 14:28 pm
by Shady
JohnnyMO wrote: 03 Mar 2026 12:58 pm Pretty sure 3B is Gorman's most days with some days off against some lefties. Left field I'm less confident about, but Church and Saggese are front runners.
If Saggese gets more and more work in LF the rest of ST it will be a better indication. Hope you listened to the album.

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 14:58 pm
by ramfandan
JohnnyMO wrote: 03 Mar 2026 12:58 pm Pretty sure 3B is Gorman's most days with some days off against some lefties. Left field I'm less confident about, but Church and Saggese are front runners.
As you may know Pope Leo is a big baseball fan [ White Sox], reportedly he messages managers with advice now and then
Oli received this text from Pope Leo regarding LF choice
Hi Oli,
Instead of starting Saggese in LF, I pray you go to Church !
The rest of the Cardinals here at the Vatican agree with me.
With love from Rome,
Pope Leo 🙏

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 15:14 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
We don't have a long-term plan at any of the four corners. (And yes, that includes Burleson)

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 15:33 pm
by Shady
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:14 pm We don't have a long-term plan at any of the four corners. (And yes, that includes Burleson)
You are "out to lunch" regarding Burleson. He will be entrenched at 1B for the Cardinals for a long time.

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 15:48 pm
by ecleme22
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:33 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:14 pm We don't have a long-term plan at any of the four corners. (And yes, that includes Burleson)
You are "out to lunch" regarding Burleson. He will be entrenched at 1B for the Cardinals for a long time.
All it takes is for Herrera to fail at catcher but still have an unbelievable bat for Burleson to be pushed back to the OF or traded.

Bold prediction: I don't think AB is a Cardinal in 2027.

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 15:55 pm
by Shady
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:48 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:33 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:14 pm We don't have a long-term plan at any of the four corners. (And yes, that includes Burleson)
You are "out to lunch" regarding Burleson. He will be entrenched at 1B for the Cardinals for a long time.
All it takes is for Herrera to fail at catcher but still have an unbelievable bat for Burleson to be pushed back to the OF or traded.

Bold prediction: I don't think AB is a Cardinal in 2027.
Burleson has a better chance to be extended by then. Maybe a three or four year deal taking him through his prime seasons.

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 15:56 pm
by ecleme22
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:55 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:48 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:33 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:14 pm We don't have a long-term plan at any of the four corners. (And yes, that includes Burleson)
You are "out to lunch" regarding Burleson. He will be entrenched at 1B for the Cardinals for a long time.
All it takes is for Herrera to fail at catcher but still have an unbelievable bat for Burleson to be pushed back to the OF or traded.

Bold prediction: I don't think AB is a Cardinal in 2027.
Burleson has a better chance to be extended by then.
Why?

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 15:59 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:33 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:14 pm We don't have a long-term plan at any of the four corners. (And yes, that includes Burleson)
You are "out to lunch" regarding Burleson. He will be entrenched at 1B for the Cardinals for a long time.
If, by "a long time" you mean all summer, you're probably right.

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 15:59 pm
by Shady
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:56 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:55 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:48 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:33 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:14 pm We don't have a long-term plan at any of the four corners. (And yes, that includes Burleson)
You are "out to lunch" regarding Burleson. He will be entrenched at 1B for the Cardinals for a long time.
All it takes is for Herrera to fail at catcher but still have an unbelievable bat for Burleson to be pushed back to the OF or traded.

Bold prediction: I don't think AB is a Cardinal in 2027.
Burleson has a better chance to be extended by then.
Why?
Like I posted, "Maybe a three or four year deal taking him through his prime seasons". Hitters like Burleson "don't grow on trees". Especially, those that come through the Cardinals organization lately. Plus, I believe Burleson will surface as a team leader.

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 16:02 pm
by ecleme22
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:59 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:56 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:55 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:48 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:33 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:14 pm We don't have a long-term plan at any of the four corners. (And yes, that includes Burleson)
You are "out to lunch" regarding Burleson. He will be entrenched at 1B for the Cardinals for a long time.
All it takes is for Herrera to fail at catcher but still have an unbelievable bat for Burleson to be pushed back to the OF or traded.

Bold prediction: I don't think AB is a Cardinal in 2027.
Burleson has a better chance to be extended by then.
Why?
Like I posted, "Maybe a three or four year deal taking him through his prime seasons". Hitters like Burleson "don't grow on trees". Especially, those that come through the Cardinals organization lately. Plus, I believe Burleson will surface as a team leader.
You could argue that Herrera grows on a better tree. And may need a position.

When debating roster spots, try and leave emotion out of it. That's usually a road to nowhere.

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 16:34 pm
by Shady
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 16:02 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:59 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:56 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:55 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:48 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:33 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:14 pm We don't have a long-term plan at any of the four corners. (And yes, that includes Burleson)
You are "out to lunch" regarding Burleson. He will be entrenched at 1B for the Cardinals for a long time.
All it takes is for Herrera to fail at catcher but still have an unbelievable bat for Burleson to be pushed back to the OF or traded.

Bold prediction: I don't think AB is a Cardinal in 2027.
Burleson has a better chance to be extended by then.
Why?
Like I posted, "Maybe a three or four year deal taking him through his prime seasons". Hitters like Burleson "don't grow on trees". Especially, those that come through the Cardinals organization lately. Plus, I believe Burleson will surface as a team leader.
You could argue that Herrera grows on a better tree. And may need a position.

When debating roster spots, try and leave emotion out of it. That's usually a road to nowhere.
Emotions aside. Speaking of roster positioning. The Cardinals' brass seem to like Burleson even more than I do as a player for the organization. Trading away Contreras to open up 1B for Burleson just might confirm that. Contreras was coming off a pretty good season, he wasn't real old or real expensive. He was good, defensively, at 1B. And the Cardinals could still have used Contreras' power production. Yes, the Cardinals' organization really seem to like Alec Burleson.

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 16:53 pm
by ecleme22
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 16:34 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 16:02 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:59 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:56 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:55 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:48 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:33 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:14 pm We don't have a long-term plan at any of the four corners. (And yes, that includes Burleson)
You are "out to lunch" regarding Burleson. He will be entrenched at 1B for the Cardinals for a long time.
All it takes is for Herrera to fail at catcher but still have an unbelievable bat for Burleson to be pushed back to the OF or traded.

Bold prediction: I don't think AB is a Cardinal in 2027.
Burleson has a better chance to be extended by then.
Why?
Like I posted, "Maybe a three or four year deal taking him through his prime seasons". Hitters like Burleson "don't grow on trees". Especially, those that come through the Cardinals organization lately. Plus, I believe Burleson will surface as a team leader.
You could argue that Herrera grows on a better tree. And may need a position.

When debating roster spots, try and leave emotion out of it. That's usually a road to nowhere.
Emotions aside. Speaking of roster positioning. The Cardinals' brass seem to like Burleson even more than I do as a player for the organization. Trading away Contreras to open up 1B for Burleson just might confirm that. Contreras was coming off a pretty good season, he wasn't real old or real expensive. He was good, defensively, at 1B. And the Cardinals could still have used Contreras' power production. Yes, the Cardinals' organization really seem to like Alec Burleson.
Contreras, Gray and NA were all traded for similar reasons and had little to do with liking the guys replacing them.

Now rework your rationale above and post again...

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 16:58 pm
by Shady
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 16:53 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 16:34 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 16:02 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:59 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:56 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:55 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:48 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:33 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:14 pm We don't have a long-term plan at any of the four corners. (And yes, that includes Burleson)
You are "out to lunch" regarding Burleson. He will be entrenched at 1B for the Cardinals for a long time.
All it takes is for Herrera to fail at catcher but still have an unbelievable bat for Burleson to be pushed back to the OF or traded.

Bold prediction: I don't think AB is a Cardinal in 2027.
Burleson has a better chance to be extended by then.
Why?
Like I posted, "Maybe a three or four year deal taking him through his prime seasons". Hitters like Burleson "don't grow on trees". Especially, those that come through the Cardinals organization lately. Plus, I believe Burleson will surface as a team leader.
You could argue that Herrera grows on a better tree. And may need a position.

When debating roster spots, try and leave emotion out of it. That's usually a road to nowhere.
Emotions aside. Speaking of roster positioning. The Cardinals' brass seem to like Burleson even more than I do as a player for the organization. Trading away Contreras to open up 1B for Burleson just might confirm that. Contreras was coming off a pretty good season, he wasn't real old or real expensive. He was good, defensively, at 1B. And the Cardinals could still have used Contreras' power production. Yes, the Cardinals' organization really seem to like Alec Burleson.
Contreras, Gray and NA were all traded for similar reasons and had little to do with liking the guys replacing them.

Now rework your rationale above and post again...
If the Cardinals organization didn't feel really good about Burleson at 1B in the rebuild. Contreras wouldn't have been traded. It was different than the Gray and NA situations. Contreras wasn't really overpaid.

Re: LF and 3B seem to be the question marks

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 17:10 pm
by Mort Gage
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 16:58 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 16:53 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 16:34 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 16:02 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:59 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:56 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:55 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:48 pm
Shady wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:33 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 03 Mar 2026 15:14 pm We don't have a long-term plan at any of the four corners. (And yes, that includes Burleson)
You are "out to lunch" regarding Burleson. He will be entrenched at 1B for the Cardinals for a long time.
All it takes is for Herrera to fail at catcher but still have an unbelievable bat for Burleson to be pushed back to the OF or traded.

Bold prediction: I don't think AB is a Cardinal in 2027.
Burleson has a better chance to be extended by then.
Why?
Like I posted, "Maybe a three or four year deal taking him through his prime seasons". Hitters like Burleson "don't grow on trees". Especially, those that come through the Cardinals organization lately. Plus, I believe Burleson will surface as a team leader.
You could argue that Herrera grows on a better tree. And may need a position.

When debating roster spots, try and leave emotion out of it. That's usually a road to nowhere.
Emotions aside. Speaking of roster positioning. The Cardinals' brass seem to like Burleson even more than I do as a player for the organization. Trading away Contreras to open up 1B for Burleson just might confirm that. Contreras was coming off a pretty good season, he wasn't real old or real expensive. He was good, defensively, at 1B. And the Cardinals could still have used Contreras' power production. Yes, the Cardinals' organization really seem to like Alec Burleson.
Contreras, Gray and NA were all traded for similar reasons and had little to do with liking the guys replacing them.

Now rework your rationale above and post again...
If the Cardinals organization didn't feel really good about Burleson at 1B in the rebuild. Contreras wouldn't have been traded. It was different than the Gray and NA situations. Contreras wasn't really overpaid.
The Contreras trade had little to do with Burleson. They did it to shed $33.5mm and pick up Dobbins and two pitching prospects. They also did Contreras a solid by moving him to a team that is trying to contend. If Burleson does not improve from his ~2 WAR status he will likely be a 1-2 year placeholder. First basemen aren't that difficult to find.