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If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 09:40 am
by Carp4Cy
Ever since 2022, ownership's spending on each year's active roster has gone backwards. We aren't focused on winning at the MLB level (and he can only affect the MLB), and he doesn't even have a contract for the years where we might start to compete again.
Same question as was asked for Nado, Willson, Gray etc - why is he happy with losing here instead of wanting to go to a team that has a chance to win? Managers that don't win have an average career that is shorter than some players.
The answer is probably that no one else wants him. That tells me something.
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 10:01 am
by Bomber1
I doubt Marmol is on any teams’ short list of candidates.
But there is no way to tell for sure.
He’s under contract so it’s not as if he can go out and solicit a new job.
I guess I’m not sure what point you are making.
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 10:06 am
by Carp4Cy
Bomber1 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 10:01 am
I doubt Marmol is on any teams’ short list of candidates.
But there is no way to tell for sure.
He’s under contract so it’s not as if he can go out and solicit a new job.
I guess I’m not sure what point you are making.
I'm not sure that's always a restriction. College coaches leave all the time and their new team just buys out the old contract. Things could happen if there was a desire on both sides.
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 10:30 am
by WeeVikes
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 10:06 am
Bomber1 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 10:01 am
I doubt Marmol is on any teams’ short list of candidates.
But there is no way to tell for sure.
He’s under contract so it’s not as if he can go out and solicit a new job.
I guess I’m not sure what point you are making.
I'm not sure that's always a restriction. College coaches leave all the time and their new team just buys out the old contract. Things could happen if there was a desire on both sides.
Wouldn't that be tampering? I know that's a thing with players. I don't know how it may or may not relate to college sports.
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 10:31 am
by rockondlouie
Odds of Oli being hired to Manage another MLB team?
Less than .0000000000000000000000001%
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 11:15 am
by Cardinals4Life
rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 10:31 am
Odds of Oli being hired to Manage another MLB team?
Less than .0000000000000000000000001%
That's too high, Rock. Man you are generous!
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 11:16 am
by RamFan08NY
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:40 am
Ever since 2022, ownership's spending on each year's active roster has gone backwards. We aren't focused on winning at the MLB level (and he can only affect the MLB), and he doesn't even have a contract for the years where we might start to compete again.
Same question as was asked for Nado, Willson, Gray etc - why is he happy with losing here instead of wanting to go to a team that has a chance to win? Managers that don't win have an average career that is shorter than some players.
The answer is probably that no one else wants him. That tells me something.
He currently has a job that only a few handful of men in the world has. Have you ever heard of a manager quitting that job, and "hope" that they can find another? Just because the team is bad?
Maybe its happened, but I dont recall hearing about it. In fact, I think that would be a huge blemish on his resume.
I think youre teaching reaching for straws here because of your dislike of Oli.
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 11:25 am
by alw80
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:40 am
Ever since 2022, ownership's spending on each year's active roster has gone backwards. We aren't focused on winning at the MLB level (and he can only affect the MLB), and he doesn't even have a contract for the years where we might start to compete again.
Same question as was asked for Nado, Willson, Gray etc - why is he happy with losing here instead of wanting to go to a team that has a chance to win? Managers that don't win have an average career that is shorter than some players.
The answer is probably that no one else wants him. That tells me something.
When's the last time a manager left his team to go
manage another team? That virtually never happens, you guys are ridiculous.
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 11:32 am
by 45s
alw80 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 11:25 am
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:40 am
Ever since 2022, ownership's spending on each year's active roster has gone backwards. We aren't focused on winning at the MLB level (and he can only affect the MLB), and he doesn't even have a contract for the years where we might start to compete again.
Same question as was asked for Nado, Willson, Gray etc - why is he happy with losing here instead of wanting to go to a team that has a chance to win? Managers that don't win have an average career that is shorter than some players.
The answer is probably that no one else wants him. That tells me something.
When's the last time a manager left his team to go
manage another team? That virtually never happens, you guys are ridiculous.
Gutsy move…..
Tossing reality out there …..
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 11:58 am
by rockondlouie
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 11:15 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 10:31 am
Odds of Oli being hired to Manage another MLB team?
Less than .0000000000000000000000001%
That's too high, Rock. Man you are generous!
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 15:54 pm
by woofy25
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:40 am
Ever since 2022, ownership's spending on each year's active roster has gone backwards. We aren't focused on winning at the MLB level (and he can only affect the MLB), and he doesn't even have a contract for the years where we might start to compete again.
Same question as was asked for Nado, Willson, Gray etc - why is he happy with losing here instead of wanting to go to a team that has a chance to win? Managers that don't win have an average career that is shorter than some players.
The answer is probably that no one else wants him. That tells me something.
You’re making quite an assumption based on no real evidence.
Btw
Ned yost was below .500 for his career
Jim Leylands winning % was .506
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 16:02 pm
by Carp4Cy
alw80 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 11:25 am
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:40 am
Ever since 2022, ownership's spending on each year's active roster has gone backwards. We aren't focused on winning at the MLB level (and he can only affect the MLB), and he doesn't even have a contract for the years where we might start to compete again.
Same question as was asked for Nado, Willson, Gray etc - why is he happy with losing here instead of wanting to go to a team that has a chance to win? Managers that don't win have an average career that is shorter than some players.
The answer is probably that no one else wants him. That tells me something.
When's the last time a manager left his team to go
manage another team? That virtually never happens, you guys are ridiculous.
Ozzie guillen was traded as a manager.
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 16:25 pm
by Stlcardsblues
alw80 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 11:25 am
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:40 am
Ever since 2022, ownership's spending on each year's active roster has gone backwards. We aren't focused on winning at the MLB level (and he can only affect the MLB), and he doesn't even have a contract for the years where we might start to compete again.
Same question as was asked for Nado, Willson, Gray etc - why is he happy with losing here instead of wanting to go to a team that has a chance to win? Managers that don't win have an average career that is shorter than some players.
The answer is probably that no one else wants him. That tells me something.
When's the last time a manager left his team to go
manage another team? That virtually never happens, you guys are ridiculous.
One thing this board has taught me is whoever is the current manager, many on here will hate him. People will say he is the worst manager ever and will never get another job. The last liked manager was Herzog. The fanbase and most of baseball called Torre clueless until het got to the Yankees (granted this predated this board).
The masses on this board hated LaRussa. He ended up getting another job.
They despises Matheny, and said only the Cardinals would hire him. He got another job.
The board was mixed on Schildt with many hating him. He got another job,
Marmol would have an opportunity to manage again in the majors if he left.
This board isn’t going to be happy with a manager unless his name is Terry Francona.
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 16:31 pm
by RamFan08NY
Stlcardsblues wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 16:25 pm
alw80 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 11:25 am
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:40 am
Ever since 2022, ownership's spending on each year's active roster has gone backwards. We aren't focused on winning at the MLB level (and he can only affect the MLB), and he doesn't even have a contract for the years where we might start to compete again.
Same question as was asked for Nado, Willson, Gray etc - why is he happy with losing here instead of wanting to go to a team that has a chance to win? Managers that don't win have an average career that is shorter than some players.
The answer is probably that no one else wants him. That tells me something.
When's the last time a manager left his team to go
manage another team? That virtually never happens, you guys are ridiculous.
One thing this board has taught me is whoever is the current manager, many on here will hate him. People will say he is the worst manager ever and will never get another job. The last liked manager was Herzog. The fanbase and most of baseball called Torre clueless until het got to the Yankees (granted this predated this board).
The masses on this board hated LaRussa. He ended up getting another job.
They despises Matheny, and said only the Cardinals would hire him. He got another job.
The board was mixed on Schildt with many hating him. He got another job,
Marmol would have an opportunity to manage again in the majors if he left.
This board isn’t going to be happy with a manager unless his name is Terry Francona.
And they'd want Francona fired too because even he wouldn't be able to make Walker and Gorman hit!
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 18:51 pm
by ecleme22
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:40 am
Ever since 2022, ownership's spending on each year's active roster has gone backwards. We aren't focused on winning at the MLB level (and he can only affect the MLB), and he doesn't even have a contract for the years where we might start to compete again.
Same question as was asked for Nado, Willson, Gray etc - why is he happy with losing here instead of wanting to go to a team that has a chance to win? Managers that don't win have an average career that is shorter than some players.
The answer is probably that no one else wants him. That tells me something.
The mental gymnastics some of you guys do…wow…
Oli, only two years into his managerial tenure, signed a two-year extension in 2024. His contract is due to run out end of this season.
It’s a pretty simple story, bro. Take off the tinfoil hat.
Re: If Oli really wanted to win and had other options, he should have left by now
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 19:00 pm
by Melville
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:40 am
Ever since 2022, ownership's spending on each year's active roster has gone backwards. We aren't focused on winning at the MLB level (and he can only affect the MLB), and he doesn't even have a contract for the years where we might start to compete again.
Same question as was asked for Nado, Willson, Gray etc - why is he happy with losing here instead of wanting to go to a team that has a chance to win? Managers that don't win have an average career that is shorter than some players.
The answer is probably that no one else wants him. That tells me something.
The Marmot has no aspirations of winning.
He prefers the path of least resistance: being paid for incompetence.