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craviduce wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 14:29 pm there's a 3 year age difference I think?

Burly wouldn't get the length of contract. Maybe a 5 year contract is my thinking...which could get him a slightly higher AAV....5/15 for a 75million contract? Maybe a bigger organization could get him more?

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 14:32 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 14:29 pm there's a 3 year age difference I think?

Burly wouldn't get the length of contract. Maybe a 5 year contract is my thinking...which could get him a slightly higher AAV....5/15 for a 75million contract? Maybe a bigger organization could get him more?

Yeah, I mentioned the 3-year age difference. If he is getting $15m AAV, I will probably opt out, and I will let arbitration run its course with him. At best he is probably a 20 HR, 80 RBI, 2 WAR player. Good to have, but I am not sure I'd go that high for it when I can still have it the next few years at arbitration numbers.

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 14:24 pm 1. Would you entertain a Burly extension?
2. If so, how does he compare to Tyler Soderstrom?

Tyler Soderstrom just got a 7-year $86m extension with an AAV of $12.3m. He has bonus provisions and an 8th-year club option that could add another $45m to the deal. Soderstrom is 3 years younger, had one more year of team control before the extension, and plays much better defense.

Is Burly 3/4 of the player Soderstrom is? If so, would a 5-year $50m extension with a one-year club option and incentives totalling another $25m get Burly interested? Is that too much to invest in an Alec Burleson?

renostl wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 14:38 pm

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 14:24 pm 1. Would you entertain a Burly extension?
2. If so, how does he compare to Tyler Soderstrom?

Tyler Soderstrom just got a 7-year $86m extension with an AAV of $12.3m. He has bonus provisions and an 8th-year club option that could add another $45m to the deal. Soderstrom is 3 years younger, had one more year of team control before the extension, and plays much better defense.

Is Burly 3/4 of the player Soderstrom is? If so, would a 5-year $50m extension with a one-year club option and incentives totalling another $25m get Burly interested? Is that too much to invest in an Alec Burleson?

Where do you think that he projects playing?
Do you think he can be a 25 HR guy?

Tyler did hit 60% of his HR's in the River Cats stadium, so they might be the
same there. Ball flies there and in Reno.

craviduce wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 14:29 pm there's a 3 year age difference I think?

Burly wouldn't get the length of contract. Maybe a 5 year contract is my thinking...which could get him a slightly higher AAV....5/15 for a 75million contract? Maybe a bigger organization could get him more?

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 14:43 pm

renostl wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 14:38 pm

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 14:24 pm 1. Would you entertain a Burly extension?
2. If so, how does he compare to Tyler Soderstrom?

Tyler Soderstrom just got a 7-year $86m extension with an AAV of $12.3m. He has bonus provisions and an 8th-year club option that could add another $45m to the deal. Soderstrom is 3 years younger, had one more year of team control before the extension, and plays much better defense.

Is Burly 3/4 of the player Soderstrom is? If so, would a 5-year $50m extension with a one-year club option and incentives totalling another $25m get Burly interested? Is that too much to invest in an Alec Burleson?

Where do you think that he projects playing?
Do you think he can be a 25 HR guy?

Tyler did hit 60% of his HR's in the River Cats stadium, so they might be the
same there. Ball flies there and in Reno.

I think he plays either 1B, LF, or RF. He plays none of them very well. I'd say he is probably an average 1B and negative corner OF. I think 25 HR would be a career year for Burly.

2ninr wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 15:08 pm That's an expensive tool. No. Unless he suddenly discovers consistent power. He may not be a Cardinal next year anyway. This isnt Mos Cardinals anymore. If Bloom had a good offer for him he gone. We have to start thinking bigger.

mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 15:06 pm If they were serious about extending him, I'd offer 4 yrs. guaranteed + 1 or 2 team option years.

The 4 guaranteed yrs. take him through his age 30 season, with team options for age 31 and age 32. And he's nowhere near Soderstrom. Soderstrom was 3.4 fWAR player at age 23, Burleson was a 2.1 fWAR player at age 26.

I'd be like, 4 yrs./$30-$35 million, plus 1-2 team options at $14-$16 million each.

zuck698 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 16:22 pm

2ninr wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 15:08 pm That's an expensive tool. No. Unless he suddenly discovers consistent power. He may not be a Cardinal next year anyway. This isnt Mos Cardinals anymore. If Bloom had a good offer for him he gone. We have to start thinking bigger.

You just ruined little Shady's Christmas! Agreed on thinking bigger. He is a 2WAR player max IMO. Hope I am wrong and Shady is right with his "Next Joey Votto" thinking. Highly doubt I am wrong though.

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑30 Dec 2025 14:24 pm 1. Would you entertain a Burly extension?
2. If so, how does he compare to Tyler Soderstrom?

Tyler Soderstrom just got a 7-year $86m extension with an AAV of $12.3m. He has bonus provisions and an 8th-year club option that could add another $45m to the deal. Soderstrom is 3 years younger, had one more year of team control before the extension, and plays much better defense.

Is Burly 3/4 of the player Soderstrom is? If so, would a 5-year $50m extension with a one-year club option and incentives totalling another $25m get Burly interested? Is that too much to invest in an Alec Burleson?