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Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 24 Dec 2025 17:27 pm
by Carp4Cy
Assuming we trade Donnie, even his last three year average would be better than everyone else we’ve got to play outfield right now. He doesn’t have to repeat 2025 to be an improvement, but it also shows he has a higher ceiling than any outfielder on our roster.
If he could be had for a reasonable two or three year contract (well under $50m) that could extend into our competitive window. We could even front end load the contract in 2026 to make 2027 more flexible for additional talent payroll wise.
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 24 Dec 2025 17:55 pm
by C-Unit
How many factors would Kyle Tucker be. Could sign him for 12 years, and the last 10 could go along with our competitive window.
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 24 Dec 2025 20:50 pm
by bretto12
Bader adds nothing to the team. His only positive is that he hits right handed, but he hits .250 with very little power.
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 24 Dec 2025 21:15 pm
by ecleme22
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 17:27 pm
Assuming we trade Donnie, even his last three year average would be better than everyone else we’ve got to play outfield right now. He doesn’t have to repeat 2025 to be an improvement, but it also shows he has a higher ceiling than any outfielder on our roster.
If he could be had for a reasonable two or three year contract (well under $50m) that could extend into our competitive window. We could even front end load the contract in 2026 to make 2027 more flexible for additional talent payroll wise.
Bader:
2021: .785 ops
2022: .650
2023 .622
2024: .657
2025 .796
You want to sign that to 3 years?
I appreciate Bader and I think he can complement a good team.
But I guarantee if the cards sign Bader to three years, and he has a .645 ops mid June, you’ll be asking the CT administrators to kindly delete this OP.
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 24 Dec 2025 23:14 pm
by Carp4Cy
ecleme22 wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 21:15 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 17:27 pm
Assuming we trade Donnie, even his last three year average would be better than everyone else we’ve got to play outfield right now. He doesn’t have to repeat 2025 to be an improvement, but it also shows he has a higher ceiling than any outfielder on our roster.
If he could be had for a reasonable two or three year contract (well under $50m) that could extend into our competitive window. We could even front end load the contract in 2026 to make 2027 more flexible for additional talent payroll wise.
Bader:
2021: .785 ops
2022: .650
2023 .622
2024: .657
2025 .796
You want to sign that to 3 years?
I appreciate Bader and I think he can complement a good team.
But I guarantee if the cards sign Bader to three years, and he has a .645 ops mid June, you’ll be asking the CT administrators to kindly delete this OP.
That would still be 60 pts better than Walker. And 75 pts better than Scott has hit for his career.
Plus a much higher ceiling.
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 24 Dec 2025 23:24 pm
by ecleme22
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 23:14 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 21:15 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 17:27 pm
Assuming we trade Donnie, even his last three year average would be better than everyone else we’ve got to play outfield right now. He doesn’t have to repeat 2025 to be an improvement, but it also shows he has a higher ceiling than any outfielder on our roster.
If he could be had for a reasonable two or three year contract (well under $50m) that could extend into our competitive window. We could even front end load the contract in 2026 to make 2027 more flexible for additional talent payroll wise.
Bader:
2021: .785 ops
2022: .650
2023 .622
2024: .657
2025 .796
You want to sign that to 3 years?
I appreciate Bader and I think he can complement a good team.
But I guarantee if the cards sign Bader to three years, and he has a .645 ops mid June, you’ll be asking the CT administrators to kindly delete this OP.
That would still be 60 pts better than Walker. And 75 pts better than Scott has hit for his career.
Plus a much higher ceiling.
Cool.
If Walker posts another .584 ops, he won’t start.
If Scott posts an another .601 ops, his playing time will be reduced.
That’s your bar?
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 24 Dec 2025 23:27 pm
by Carp4Cy
ecleme22 wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 23:24 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 23:14 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 21:15 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 17:27 pm
Assuming we trade Donnie, even his last three year average would be better than everyone else we’ve got to play outfield right now. He doesn’t have to repeat 2025 to be an improvement, but it also shows he has a higher ceiling than any outfielder on our roster.
If he could be had for a reasonable two or three year contract (well under $50m) that could extend into our competitive window. We could even front end load the contract in 2026 to make 2027 more flexible for additional talent payroll wise.
Bader:
2021: .785 ops
2022: .650
2023 .622
2024: .657
2025 .796
You want to sign that to 3 years?
I appreciate Bader and I think he can complement a good team.
But I guarantee if the cards sign Bader to three years, and he has a .645 ops mid June, you’ll be asking the CT administrators to kindly delete this OP.
That would still be 60 pts better than Walker. And 75 pts better than Scott has hit for his career.
Plus a much higher ceiling.
Cool.
If Walker posts another .584 ops, he won’t start.
If Scott posts an another .601 ops, his playing time will be reduced.
That’s your bar?
It’s what we have. It’s who played the last couple years. Bader would be an improvement.
Donny is probably gone and will reportedly be traded for P not for Andy Pages. Noot is hurt until July. Willson is gone so Burly is our everyday 1B or DH. Hererra takes the other between 1B and DH unless he’s able to return to C.
We have no OF and the improvement isn’t coming from internal options.
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 24 Dec 2025 23:32 pm
by Cardinals4Life
C-Unit wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 17:55 pm
How many factors would Kyle Tucker be. Could sign him for 12 years, and the last 10 could go along with our competitive window.
Exactly. Get talent when its available. So what if we aren't fully ready this year. You dont think Tucker will be good in a year or 2 still? C'mon!!! We are just being cheap.
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 24 Dec 2025 23:56 pm
by ecleme22
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 23:27 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 23:24 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 23:14 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 21:15 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 17:27 pm
Assuming we trade Donnie, even his last three year average would be better than everyone else we’ve got to play outfield right now. He doesn’t have to repeat 2025 to be an improvement, but it also shows he has a higher ceiling than any outfielder on our roster.
If he could be had for a reasonable two or three year contract (well under $50m) that could extend into our competitive window. We could even front end load the contract in 2026 to make 2027 more flexible for additional talent payroll wise.
Bader:
2021: .785 ops
2022: .650
2023 .622
2024: .657
2025 .796
You want to sign that to 3 years?
I appreciate Bader and I think he can complement a good team.
But I guarantee if the cards sign Bader to three years, and he has a .645 ops mid June, you’ll be asking the CT administrators to kindly delete this OP.
That would still be 60 pts better than Walker. And 75 pts better than Scott has hit for his career.
Plus a much higher ceiling.
Cool.
If Walker posts another .584 ops, he won’t start.
If Scott posts an another .601 ops, his playing time will be reduced.
That’s your bar?
It’s what we have. It’s who played the last couple years. Bader would be an improvement.
Donny is probably gone and will reportedly be traded for P not for Andy Pages. Noot is hurt until July. Willson is gone so Burly is our everyday 1B or DH. Hererra takes the other between 1B and DH unless he’s able to return to C.
We have no OF and the improvement isn’t coming from internal options.
I’m sorry, but do you have an argument to sign bader to three years?
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 25 Dec 2025 07:15 am
by Wattage
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 23:27 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 23:24 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 23:14 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 21:15 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 17:27 pm
Assuming we trade Donnie, even his last three year average would be better than everyone else we’ve got to play outfield right now. He doesn’t have to repeat 2025 to be an improvement, but it also shows he has a higher ceiling than any outfielder on our roster.
If he could be had for a reasonable two or three year contract (well under $50m) that could extend into our competitive window. We could even front end load the contract in 2026 to make 2027 more flexible for additional talent payroll wise.
Bader:
2021: .785 ops
2022: .650
2023 .622
2024: .657
2025 .796
You want to sign that to 3 years?
I appreciate Bader and I think he can complement a good team.
But I guarantee if the cards sign Bader to three years, and he has a .645 ops mid June, you’ll be asking the CT administrators to kindly delete this OP.
That would still be 60 pts better than Walker. And 75 pts better than Scott has hit for his career.
Plus a much higher ceiling.
Cool.
If Walker posts another .584 ops, he won’t start.
If Scott posts an another .601 ops, his playing time will be reduced.
That’s your bar?
It’s what we have. It’s who played the last couple years. Bader would be an improvement.
Donny is probably gone and will reportedly be traded for P not for Andy Pages. Noot is hurt until July. Willson is gone so Burly is our everyday 1B or DH. Hererra takes the other between 1B and DH unless he’s able to return to C.
We have no OF and the improvement isn’t coming from internal options.
The hope is they are young players who will develop. If they were 10 year vezerans posting those numbers we wo I ldnt start them.
If they dont improve those numbers we will move on.
I wouldnt be opposed to signing bader but your logic is whacky. Theres inherent reason to give those giys playing time and if they show their upside great. If they dont then time to explore others
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 25 Dec 2025 08:00 am
by Bomber1
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 17:27 pm
Assuming we trade Donnie, even his last three year average would be better than everyone else we’ve got to play outfield right now. He doesn’t have to repeat 2025 to be an improvement, but it also shows he has a higher ceiling than any outfielder on our roster.
If he could be had for a reasonable two or three year contract (well under $50m) that could extend into our competitive window. We could even front end load the contract in 2026 to make 2027 more flexible for additional talent payroll wise.
Merry Christmas and enjoy the liquor you’re obviously ingesting.
3 years more of Harry and paying $13-$15 million per year for the privilege?
No thank you.
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 25 Dec 2025 08:09 am
by nighthawk
Yes, our future should rest witb someone who turns 32 next year and is strictly a platoon player. Aim high.
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 25 Dec 2025 08:12 am
by Mort Gage
Bader likely wants two things. A multi-year contract at 12+ per, and a chance to contend. So the Cards are out.
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 25 Dec 2025 08:23 am
by scoutyjones2
Once again, some CT morons, clamoring for ex Cards, who really offer nothing
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 25 Dec 2025 08:56 am
by 11WSChamps
ecleme22 wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 23:56 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 23:27 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 23:24 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 23:14 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 21:15 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Dec 2025 17:27 pm
Assuming we trade Donnie, even his last three year average would be better than everyone else we’ve got to play outfield right now. He doesn’t have to repeat 2025 to be an improvement, but it also shows he has a higher ceiling than any outfielder on our roster.
If he could be had for a reasonable two or three year contract (well under $50m) that could extend into our competitive window. We could even front end load the contract in 2026 to make 2027 more flexible for additional talent payroll wise.
Bader:
2021: .785 ops
2022: .650
2023 .622
2024: .657
2025 .796
You want to sign that to 3 years?
I appreciate Bader and I think he can complement a good team.
But I guarantee if the cards sign Bader to three years, and he has a .645 ops mid June, you’ll be asking the CT administrators to kindly delete this OP.
That would still be 60 pts better than Walker. And 75 pts better than Scott has hit for his career.
Plus a much higher ceiling.
Cool.
If Walker posts another .584 ops, he won’t start.
If Scott posts an another .601 ops, his playing time will be reduced.
That’s your bar?
It’s what we have. It’s who played the last couple years. Bader would be an improvement.
Donny is probably gone and will reportedly be traded for P not for Andy Pages. Noot is hurt until July. Willson is gone so Burly is our everyday 1B or DH. Hererra takes the other between 1B and DH unless he’s able to return to C.
We have no OF and the improvement isn’t coming from internal options.
I’m sorry, but do you have an argument to sign bader to three years?
Nobody does.
Re: Bader would be our best outfielder by a factor of two
Posted: 25 Dec 2025 09:29 am
by okcardfan
Last season, against lefties, Bader hit .227, struck out 35.7% of the time, and had an OBP of .299 and OBA of .689.
He'd be yet another OFer who can't hit LH pitchers.
No thanks, mister.