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Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 17:30 pm So the manager with no Cred is surprised after reigning over the worst span of Cards Baseball in 30yrs that fans don’t like him……nuff said

Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 17:30 pm So the manager with no Cred is surprised after reigning over the worst span of Cards Baseball in 30yrs that fans don’t like him……nuff said

blackinkbiz wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 17:53 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 17:30 pm So the manager with no Cred is surprised after reigning over the worst span of Cards Baseball in 30yrs that fans don’t like him……nuff said

I'll never understand his apologists. Like, seriously, what can anyone point to that says "Oli does a great job at this!"

Other than being the players' buddy, I can't think of one thing.

ramfandan wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 20:48 pm Though I did not hear Oli's reply , the first report I read said that after making the comment Oli immediately laughed. Therefore, he was making a humorous retort to the question.
So he was using humor and some took it as a serious reply to the question. One must always consider any words in the context of the moment.

Some would characterize his reply as self-depricating humor.

blackinkbiz wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 17:27 pm Monday (yesterday) afternoon, the Fastlane interviewed Oli Marmol. They asked him, "Now that you're entering your 5th year, what's the main thing you thought you knew during your first season, but you realize now you actually had no clue about it back then?"

Oli's response:

"I had no idea I would be hated this much."

He was able to laugh it off and followed up by saying it's okay because being in the big chair means ultimately every decision ends with you and that's what he says he wants.

Personally, I feel if you truly hate a sports player/coach you're trying to fill some other void in your life with sports. Actually hating a person in sports makes you one of those cukoo for cocoa puffs fans.

I think he seems like a great guy but loathe him as a manager due to his unapologetic demeanor and the fact he repeats the same mistakes over and over again. I've still never heard him admit that Game 1 against the Phils in 2022 was a mistake. He doesn't need to slap his forehead and scream omg I was an idiot. If he'd just show he could grow and learn from his mistakes and admit if I had a chance to that differently, I would. Others...

-stop giving young players constant "scheduled off-days" omg nothing kills momentum like these pre-decided idiotic moves
-go with the hot hand instead of the perfect matchup, in pitching, hitting, and even defensive shifts/pitch calls
-if any starting pitcher, bp arm, hitter is on fire during a game, keep him in there as long as possible, even if a certain situation calls for a different matchup
-stop making late-innning D replacements with your best hitters unless your 90%+ sure removing him will not come back to bite you

Those are mine. Others have thoughts of things he could do to quell some of the hate?

Maybe he'll read this and listen. lmao

blackinkbiz wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 21:14 pm

ramfandan wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 20:48 pm Though I did not hear Oli's reply , the first report I read said that after making the comment Oli immediately laughed. Therefore, he was making a humorous retort to the question.
So he was using humor and some took it as a serious reply to the question. One must always consider any words in the context of the moment.

Some would characterize his reply as self-depricating humor.

He has a great personality. I think he'd be an awesome guy to get a beer with. That's part of the reason I don't like him as a manager. He's too much cheerleader, not enough commander-in-chief.

He laughed at it, but didn't laugh at it as though "How ridiculous is that? It was more of a "What else can I do but laugh?" He took it seriously saying "That's what happens when you sit in the manager's chair and that's fine because that's where I want to be."

Again, more commander, less cheerleader-I'm-your-buddy and he could be serviceable. But he also has too many other bad strategies he consistenly employs.

blackinkbiz wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 17:27 pm If he'd just show he could grow and learn from his mistakes and admit if I had a chance to that differently, I would. Others...

-stop giving young players constant "scheduled off-days" omg nothing kills momentum like these pre-decided idiotic moves
-go with the hot hand instead of the perfect matchup, in pitching, hitting, and even defensive shifts/pitch calls
-if any starting pitcher, bp arm, hitter is on fire during a game, keep him in there as long as possible, even if a certain situation calls for a different matchup
-stop making late-innning D replacements with your best hitters unless your 90%+ sure removing him will not come back to bite you

blackinkbiz wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 17:53 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 17:30 pm So the manager with no Cred is surprised after reigning over the worst span of Cards Baseball in 30yrs that fans don’t like him……nuff said

I'll never understand his apologists. Like, seriously, what can anyone point to that says "Oli does a great job at this!"

Other than being the players' buddy, I can't think of one thing.

blackinkbiz wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 17:27 pm Monday (yesterday) afternoon, the Fastlane interviewed Oli Marmol. They asked him, "Now that you're entering your 5th year, what's the main thing you thought you knew during your first season, but you realize now you actually had no clue about it back then?"

Oli's response:

"I had no idea I would be hated this much."

He was able to laugh it off and followed up by saying it's okay because being in the big chair means ultimately every decision ends with you and that's what he says he wants.

Personally, I feel if you truly hate a sports player/coach you're trying to fill some other void in your life with sports. Actually hating a person in sports makes you one of those cukoo for cocoa puffs fans.

I think he seems like a great guy but loathe him as a manager due to his unapologetic demeanor and the fact he repeats the same mistakes over and over again. I've still never heard him admit that Game 1 against the Phils in 2022 was a mistake. He doesn't need to slap his forehead and scream omg I was an idiot. If he'd just show he could grow and learn from his mistakes and admit if I had a chance to that differently, I would. Others...

-stop giving young players constant "scheduled off-days" omg nothing kills momentum like these pre-decided idiotic moves
-go with the hot hand instead of the perfect matchup, in pitching, hitting, and even defensive shifts/pitch calls
-if any starting pitcher, bp arm, hitter is on fire during a game, keep him in there as long as possible, even if a certain situation calls for a different matchup
-stop making late-innning D replacements with your best hitters unless your 90%+ sure removing him will not come back to bite you

Those are mine. Others have thoughts of things he could do to quell some of the hate?

Maybe he'll read this and listen. lmao

blackinkbiz wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 17:27 pm Monday (yesterday) afternoon, the Fastlane interviewed Oli Marmol. They asked him, "Now that you're entering your 5th year, what's the main thing you thought you knew during your first season, but you realize now you actually had no clue about it back then?"

Oli's response:

"I had no idea I would be hated this much."

He was able to laugh it off and followed up by saying it's okay because being in the big chair means ultimately every decision ends with you and that's what he says he wants.

Personally, I feel if you truly hate a sports player/coach you're trying to fill some other void in your life with sports. Actually hating a person in sports makes you one of those cukoo for cocoa puffs fans.

I think he seems like a great guy but loathe him as a manager due to his unapologetic demeanor and the fact he repeats the same mistakes over and over again. I've still never heard him admit that Game 1 against the Phils in 2022 was a mistake. He doesn't need to slap his forehead and scream omg I was an idiot. If he'd just show he could grow and learn from his mistakes and admit if I had a chance to that differently, I would. Others...

-stop giving young players constant "scheduled off-days" omg nothing kills momentum like these pre-decided idiotic moves
-go with the hot hand instead of the perfect matchup, in pitching, hitting, and even defensive shifts/pitch calls
-if any starting pitcher, bp arm, hitter is on fire during a game, keep him in there as long as possible, even if a certain situation calls for a different matchup
-stop making late-innning D replacements with your best hitters unless your 90%+ sure removing him will not come back to bite you

Those are mine. Others have thoughts of things he could do to quell some of the hate?

Maybe he'll read this and listen. lmao