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They need to keep Donovan for 3B unless they can get a haul for him.nebfan wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:04 pm If they trade Donovan they have officially become the Pittsburgh Pirates. Develop young players and when they become stars you get rid of them so you don;t have to pay up and then when or if the prospects you got in return turn into stars you ship them off for the next batch of prospects. A vicious circle with no chance of winning
I don’t know why the cardinals wouldn’t have made it to the post season with them much less made it to the World SeriesDewey Kuey wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:08 pm If Donny is traded to Boston and the Sox take it to the world series next year, this place will totally go ape [shirt]!
Witherspoon and Phillips....our quest to stock our Minors with quality RHP is almost now complete. Put a bow on this one, Folks.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 13:10 pm I don't have a problem with the deals that have been done with Boston, and I don't have a problem doing another deal with them for Donovan, but the next trade would have to be a different sort of trade. Donovan's contract is not upside down- it's a bargain. His market is also broader as opposed the narrow markets for Gray and Contreras. As such, the return needs to be much better. More upside. Close to the majors. Speaking for myself only, I wouldn't entertain a trade with Boston without Kyson Witherspoon. If that's a deal-breaker, so be it. They don't really have a position player that neatly fits the Cardinals needs. Even it they don't make a trade, it's great that they are talking about it. I hope it gets talked and written about everywhere.
Good and accurate take.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 13:10 pm I don't have a problem with the deals that have been done with Boston, and I don't have a problem doing another deal with them for Donovan, but the next trade would have to be a different sort of trade. Donovan's contract is not upside down- it's a bargain. His market is also broader as opposed the narrow markets for Gray and Contreras. As such, the return needs to be much better. More upside. Close to the majors. Speaking for myself only, I wouldn't entertain a trade with Boston without Kyson Witherspoon. If that's a deal-breaker, so be it. They don't really have a position player that neatly fits the Cardinals needs. Even it they don't make a trade, it's great that they are talking about it. I hope it gets talked and written about everywhere.
I'm on board. Can you imagine one team taking 7 pitchers out of another team's offseason?craviduce wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:12 pmWitherspoon and Phillips....our quest to stock our Minors with quality RHP is almost now complete. Put a bow on this one, Folks.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 13:10 pm I don't have a problem with the deals that have been done with Boston, and I don't have a problem doing another deal with them for Donovan, but the next trade would have to be a different sort of trade. Donovan's contract is not upside down- it's a bargain. His market is also broader as opposed the narrow markets for Gray and Contreras. As such, the return needs to be much better. More upside. Close to the majors. Speaking for myself only, I wouldn't entertain a trade with Boston without Kyson Witherspoon. If that's a deal-breaker, so be it. They don't really have a position player that neatly fits the Cardinals needs. Even it they don't make a trade, it's great that they are talking about it. I hope it gets talked and written about everywhere.
and Dohm last JulyTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:46 pmI'm on board. Can you imagine one team taking 7 pitchers out of another team's offseason?craviduce wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:12 pmWitherspoon and Phillips....our quest to stock our Minors with quality RHP is almost now complete. Put a bow on this one, Folks.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 13:10 pm I don't have a problem with the deals that have been done with Boston, and I don't have a problem doing another deal with them for Donovan, but the next trade would have to be a different sort of trade. Donovan's contract is not upside down- it's a bargain. His market is also broader as opposed the narrow markets for Gray and Contreras. As such, the return needs to be much better. More upside. Close to the majors. Speaking for myself only, I wouldn't entertain a trade with Boston without Kyson Witherspoon. If that's a deal-breaker, so be it. They don't really have a position player that neatly fits the Cardinals needs. Even it they don't make a trade, it's great that they are talking about it. I hope it gets talked and written about everywhere.
Didn't he come from the Mets?craviduce wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:48 pmand Dohm last JulyTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:46 pmI'm on board. Can you imagine one team taking 7 pitchers out of another team's offseason?craviduce wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:12 pmWitherspoon and Phillips....our quest to stock our Minors with quality RHP is almost now complete. Put a bow on this one, Folks.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 13:10 pm I don't have a problem with the deals that have been done with Boston, and I don't have a problem doing another deal with them for Donovan, but the next trade would have to be a different sort of trade. Donovan's contract is not upside down- it's a bargain. His market is also broader as opposed the narrow markets for Gray and Contreras. As such, the return needs to be much better. More upside. Close to the majors. Speaking for myself only, I wouldn't entertain a trade with Boston without Kyson Witherspoon. If that's a deal-breaker, so be it. They don't really have a position player that neatly fits the Cardinals needs. Even it they don't make a trade, it's great that they are talking about it. I hope it gets talked and written about everywhere.
Yes, he came from the Mets.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 17:09 pmDidn't he come from the Mets?craviduce wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:48 pmand Dohm last JulyTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:46 pmI'm on board. Can you imagine one team taking 7 pitchers out of another team's offseason?craviduce wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:12 pmWitherspoon and Phillips....our quest to stock our Minors with quality RHP is almost now complete. Put a bow on this one, Folks.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 13:10 pm I don't have a problem with the deals that have been done with Boston, and I don't have a problem doing another deal with them for Donovan, but the next trade would have to be a different sort of trade. Donovan's contract is not upside down- it's a bargain. His market is also broader as opposed the narrow markets for Gray and Contreras. As such, the return needs to be much better. More upside. Close to the majors. Speaking for myself only, I wouldn't entertain a trade with Boston without Kyson Witherspoon. If that's a deal-breaker, so be it. They don't really have a position player that neatly fits the Cardinals needs. Even it they don't make a trade, it's great that they are talking about it. I hope it gets talked and written about everywhere.
you're right....Dohm from the Mets, Molina from the Rangers....I got that one confused. I was thinking Molina and Baez from Mets.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 17:09 pmDidn't he come from the Mets?craviduce wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:48 pmand Dohm last JulyTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:46 pmI'm on board. Can you imagine one team taking 7 pitchers out of another team's offseason?craviduce wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:12 pmWitherspoon and Phillips....our quest to stock our Minors with quality RHP is almost now complete. Put a bow on this one, Folks.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 13:10 pm I don't have a problem with the deals that have been done with Boston, and I don't have a problem doing another deal with them for Donovan, but the next trade would have to be a different sort of trade. Donovan's contract is not upside down- it's a bargain. His market is also broader as opposed the narrow markets for Gray and Contreras. As such, the return needs to be much better. More upside. Close to the majors. Speaking for myself only, I wouldn't entertain a trade with Boston without Kyson Witherspoon. If that's a deal-breaker, so be it. They don't really have a position player that neatly fits the Cardinals needs. Even it they don't make a trade, it's great that they are talking about it. I hope it gets talked and written about everywhere.
Yes, and make a deal with Detroit and get his brother too! He is just about as good as a prospect as Kyson is in reality!craviduce wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:12 pmWitherspoon and Phillips....our quest to stock our Minors with quality RHP is almost now complete. Put a bow on this one, Folks.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 13:10 pm I don't have a problem with the deals that have been done with Boston, and I don't have a problem doing another deal with them for Donovan, but the next trade would have to be a different sort of trade. Donovan's contract is not upside down- it's a bargain. His market is also broader as opposed the narrow markets for Gray and Contreras. As such, the return needs to be much better. More upside. Close to the majors. Speaking for myself only, I wouldn't entertain a trade with Boston without Kyson Witherspoon. If that's a deal-breaker, so be it. They don't really have a position player that neatly fits the Cardinals needs. Even it they don't make a trade, it's great that they are talking about it. I hope it gets talked and written about everywhere.
Why? The only players traded that have any connection to Bloom were Blaze Jordan (a low level acquisition made before Bloom was working for the MLB team) and Hunter Dobbins (drafted in 2021 in the 8th round). What does he have bias for if only one player traded for out of six he had any connection with?CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑23 Dec 2025 16:18 pmI find it hard to believe the best possible offers and deals all just happen to come from Boston? I realize Bloom has familiarity but it almost seems like bias could be blinding him to a better return.
At least in Donovan’s case, which as you pointed out, is on a different level.