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Posted: 21 Dec 2025 16:13 pm
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Well mo hadn’t provided the fans with a good product to watch trying to win the last three years the only way to build a product that people want to watch is to rebuildcardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
I think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
Ozzie.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
Haha. Exactly.Absolut wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:41 pmOzzie.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
I can only speak for me, but I wasn't put off by the players as I was the utterly poor performance by the front office, the poor roster construction, the mixed messaging, and the condescension.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
I'm not put off by the players at all. I'm just saying that there have been no players on the team the past few years that are going to excite the casual fan. There are no "must see" players. Hopefully that turns around quickly.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:55 pmI can only speak for me, but I wasn't put off by the players as I was the utterly poor performance by the front office, the poor roster construction, the mixed messaging, and the condescension.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
I thought they were more interesting to watch this year than the past couple.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:56 pmI'm not put off by the players at all. I'm just saying that there have been no players on the team the past few years that are going to excite the casual fan. There are no "must see" players. Hopefully that turns around quickly.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:55 pmI can only speak for me, but I wasn't put off by the players as I was the utterly poor performance by the front office, the poor roster construction, the mixed messaging, and the condescension.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
You should start it if you think it's such a great idea...redbirdfan51 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:43 pm Cardinals should start their own network. The network could cover the Blues, SLU basketball and perhaps some Mizzou sports.
Two words: Dustin May. We are so back.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
No one cause they are liable to be traded the next day.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.