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And in the case we are discussing here, both.TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:14 pm No. They come back because they think they'll get more food
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Define " ace".Shady wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 16:15 pm Or will it be kind of like last season with not a true ace-type starting pitcher. How is the '26 staff shaping up, overall, compared to the '25 staff? It seems to me there could be, at least, a slight upgrade in '26. Depending on how Liberatore, McGreevy and Pallante progress. Leahy's ability to start. And if May and Fitts can stay healthy.
A starter than is pretty sure to win games. Stop a losing streak. Regularly go deep into games. Be at least a 17 game/season winner.RamFan08NY wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:28 pmBeauty is in the eye of the beholder. Define " ace".Shady wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 16:15 pm Or will it be kind of like last season with not a true ace-type starting pitcher. How is the '26 staff shaping up, overall, compared to the '25 staff? It seems to me there could be, at least, a slight upgrade in '26. Depending on how Liberatore, McGreevy and Pallante progress. Leahy's ability to start. And if May and Fitts can stay healthy.
#TrustTheProcess“May’s signing makes him a candidate for the Opening Day rotation, and Cardinal Nation apparently anticipates May becoming the team’s ace. For the current state of the Cardinals’ staff, I believe that is fair to ask of the 28-year-old who has shown flashes of electric stuff the team has sorely needed.”
17 game winner? No. Maybe a couple 12-14 game winners if we’re lucky.Shady wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:31 pmA starter than is pretty sure to win games. Stop a losing streak. Regularly go deep into games. Be at least a 17 game/season winner.RamFan08NY wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:28 pmBeauty is in the eye of the beholder. Define " ace".Shady wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 16:15 pm Or will it be kind of like last season with not a true ace-type starting pitcher. How is the '26 staff shaping up, overall, compared to the '25 staff? It seems to me there could be, at least, a slight upgrade in '26. Depending on how Liberatore, McGreevy and Pallante progress. Leahy's ability to start. And if May and Fitts can stay healthy.
Cardinals haven't had a real ace since the Carpenter/Waino days!Shady wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 16:15 pm Or will it be kind of like last season with not a true ace-type starting pitcher. How is the '26 staff shaping up, overall, compared to the '25 staff? It seems to me there could be, at least, a slight upgrade in '26. Depending on how Liberatore, McGreevy and Pallante progress. Leahy's ability to start. And if May and Fitts can stay healthy.
Marmol will never allow a pitcher to consistently go deep in games. Mostly 5 innings and out. The iPad tells him.Shady wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:31 pmA starter than is pretty sure to win games. Stop a losing streak. Regularly go deep into games. Be at least a 17 game/season winner.RamFan08NY wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:28 pmBeauty is in the eye of the beholder. Define " ace".Shady wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 16:15 pm Or will it be kind of like last season with not a true ace-type starting pitcher. How is the '26 staff shaping up, overall, compared to the '25 staff? It seems to me there could be, at least, a slight upgrade in '26. Depending on how Liberatore, McGreevy and Pallante progress. Leahy's ability to start. And if May and Fitts can stay healthy.