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Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 15:25 pm
by cardsrmyteam
More propaganda from the Post Dispatch.

Absolute garbage to say that Winn = Ozzie and Scott = Edmonds.

Not even close, Not even if they are combined. Pure Propaganda.

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 15:27 pm
by Goldfan
cardsrmyteam wrote: 14 Dec 2025 15:25 pm More propaganda from the Post Dispatch.

Absolute garbage to say that Winn = Ozzie and Scott = Edmonds.

Not even close, Not even if they are combined. Pure Propaganda.
I saw that…..thought I was readying some nonsense off of CT :lol: :lol:

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 15:34 pm
by rage-STL
Just a standard Hochman puff piece.

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 15:36 pm
by 82birds
rage-STL wrote: 14 Dec 2025 15:34 pm Just a standard Hochman puff piece.
yep
saw the headline and didn't bother to click on the story

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 15:44 pm
by JuanAgosto
Absolute nonsense. Scott isn't even Curt Ford. Embarrassing headline.

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 15:57 pm
by scoutyjones2
cardsrmyteam wrote: 14 Dec 2025 15:25 pm More propaganda from the Post Dispatch.

Absolute garbage to say that Winn = Ozzie and Scott = Edmonds.

Not even close, Not even if they are combined. Pure Propaganda.
Ok...are you Ok?

Actually I don't care :lol:

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 16:04 pm
by cardinalsfever44
I assume the comparison was defensively only? If so, based on last season, it's an apt comparison.

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 16:18 pm
by Goldfan
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 14 Dec 2025 16:04 pm I assume the comparison was defensively only? If so, based on last season, it's an apt comparison.
Winn had 501 Def CH last season

Ozzie by comparison
837
831
933
658
827
844
682
827
697
771
775
709
602
639
662
721
At the age of 39…..434

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 16:21 pm
by cardinalsfever44
Why are we comparing two players based on chances?

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 16:30 pm
by DwaininAztec
JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Dec 2025 15:44 pm Absolute nonsense. Scott isn't even Curt Ford. Embarrassing headline.
If he was that would make him one of the 5 best CFers of all time. Curt is in the 1 or 2 best category.

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 16:37 pm
by Goldfan
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 14 Dec 2025 16:21 pm Why are we comparing two players based on chances?
Is this a serious question?

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 16:39 pm
by cardinalsfever44
Goldfan wrote: 14 Dec 2025 16:37 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 14 Dec 2025 16:21 pm Why are we comparing two players based on chances?
Is this a serious question?
So you are telling me one player is better than the other based upon the number of ground balls hit to them each season? Yes, it's a serious question.

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 16:44 pm
by cardinalsfever44
Trevor Story led all MLB SS's in total chances in 2025? I'll assume that makes him the best defensive SS in the league according to Goldfan?

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 17:00 pm
by Goldfan
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 14 Dec 2025 16:39 pm
Goldfan wrote: 14 Dec 2025 16:37 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 14 Dec 2025 16:21 pm Why are we comparing two players based on chances?
Is this a serious question?
So you are telling me one player is better than the other based upon the number of ground balls hit to them each season? Yes, it's a serious question.
Grasshopper, Ozzie Smith had over 800 CH per season his first 6 seasons only interrupted by the strike shortened ‘81 season. To somehow write a sentence and come close to comparing Winn to Ozzie defensively takes some great balls OR perhaps one never watched Ozzie. The RANGE and talent to reach that many CH in season at SS is magical. Winn has shown neither the RANGE nor ability to stay on the field every game like Ozzie.

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 17:05 pm
by Basil Shabazz
DwaininAztec wrote: 14 Dec 2025 16:30 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Dec 2025 15:44 pm Absolute nonsense. Scott isn't even Curt Ford. Embarrassing headline.
If he was that would make him one of the 5 best CFers of all time. Curt is in the 1 or 2 best category.
He said Ford, not Flood

Re: Victor Scott Does Not Equal Edmonds

Posted: 14 Dec 2025 17:18 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Goldfan wrote: 14 Dec 2025 17:00 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 14 Dec 2025 16:39 pm
Goldfan wrote: 14 Dec 2025 16:37 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 14 Dec 2025 16:21 pm Why are we comparing two players based on chances?
Is this a serious question?
So you are telling me one player is better than the other based upon the number of ground balls hit to them each season? Yes, it's a serious question.
Grasshopper, Ozzie Smith had over 800 CH per season his first 6 seasons only interrupted by the strike shortened ‘81 season. To somehow write a sentence and come close to comparing Winn to Ozzie defensively takes some great balls OR perhaps one never watched Ozzie. The RANGE and talent to reach that many CH in season at SS is magical. Winn has shown neither the RANGE nor ability to stay on the field every game like Ozzie.
On one hand it’s true Ozzie got to more balls because of his range but he also got more chances because it was pre launch angle craze and pre it’s okay to strike out 100 plus times a season and pre no need to choke up and try to put the ball in the play with two strikes just swing away like the count is 3-0 craze. But Ozzie was a lot better than Winn no question. Victor Scott catches up to balls that Edmonds wouldn’t get to though and he catches balls on the run Edmonds would have had to dive for