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If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 14:29 pm
by Shady
Would the returns for Contreras, Romero, Nootbaar, Arenado and a catcher bring back enough help for the next few seasons to make not trading Donovan a better choice? I think so. With the added starting pitching An infield of Donovan 3B, Winn SS, Wetherholt 2B and Burleson 1B and adding a really productive outfield hitter might be very competitive for, at least, a wildcard in '26. Adding a really productive outfield hitter, somehow, is probably the key.
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 14:34 pm
by Cusecards
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:29 pm
Would the returns for Contreras, Romero, Nootbaar, Arenado and a catcher bring back enough help for the next few seasons to make not trading Donovan a better choice?
Of course it could.
Every player move can create a “domino” affect.
You’re talking about trading 4 other players!
Be patient....take it one day at a time. Long offseason still to go!
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 14:43 pm
by craviduce
Cusecards wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:34 pm
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:29 pm
Would the returns for Contreras, Romero, Nootbaar, Arenado and a catcher bring back enough help for the next few seasons to make not trading Donovan a better choice?
Of course it could.
Every player move can create a “domino” affect.
You’re talking about trading 4 other players!
Be patient....take it one day at a time. Long offseason still to go!
there's no "good" scenario to keeping Donovan going into the 2026 season.
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 14:45 pm
by Red7
A windfall? For Donovan? Good grief. He’s a JAG. He might be the Cardinals’ best player, but that says a lot more about the team than it does him.
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 14:46 pm
by Ozziesfan41
craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:43 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:34 pm
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:29 pm
Would the returns for Contreras, Romero, Nootbaar, Arenado and a catcher bring back enough help for the next few seasons to make not trading Donovan a better choice?
Of course it could.
Every player move can create a “domino” affect.
You’re talking about trading 4 other players!
Be patient....take it one day at a time. Long offseason still to go!
there's no "good" scenario to keeping Donovan going into the 2026 season.
+1
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 14:48 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Red7 wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:45 pm
A windfall? For Donovan? Good grief. He’s a JAG. He might be the Cardinals’ best player, but that says a lot more about the team than it does him.
Big +1 he’s better than JAG but people are way overvaluing him they act like he’s an elite player when he’s just a complimentary piece on a good team
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 14:49 pm
by Shady
craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:43 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:34 pm
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:29 pm
Would the returns for Contreras, Romero, Nootbaar, Arenado and a catcher bring back enough help for the next few seasons to make not trading Donovan a better choice?
Of course it could.
Every player move can create a “domino” affect.
You’re talking about trading 4 other players!
Be patient....take it one day at a time. Long offseason still to go!
there's no "good" scenario to keeping Donovan going into the 2026 season.
This is a scenario. That Bloom can't get enough for Donovan to make trading him worthwhile.
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 14:51 pm
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
They really need to move on from Donovan, WC, Noot. I agree if they get dirt, keep them, but if one of those 3 bring you back anything of value for this season or down the road you gotta seriously consider it.
Nado is a dump, so no real reason to move him. Unless someone is willing to take the contract, if not you might as well let him finish out his last two seasons.
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 14:56 pm
by craviduce
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:49 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:43 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:34 pm
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:29 pm
Would the returns for Contreras, Romero, Nootbaar, Arenado and a catcher bring back enough help for the next few seasons to make not trading Donovan a better choice?
Of course it could.
Every player move can create a “domino” affect.
You’re talking about trading 4 other players!
Be patient....take it one day at a time. Long offseason still to go!
there's no "good" scenario to keeping Donovan going into the 2026 season.
This is a scenario. That Bloom can't get enough for Donovan to make trading him worthwhile.
the longer you keep him the lower his value to other teams will be....b/c they would've filled their holes going into the season.
You want 2 established MLB players for Donovan....no team will give you that. So you'll keep him and get nothing for him?
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 15:02 pm
by Shady
craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:56 pm
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:49 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:43 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:34 pm
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:29 pm
Would the returns for Contreras, Romero, Nootbaar, Arenado and a catcher bring back enough help for the next few seasons to make not trading Donovan a better choice?
Of course it could.
Every player move can create a “domino” affect.
You’re talking about trading 4 other players!
Be patient....take it one day at a time. Long offseason still to go!
there's no "good" scenario to keeping Donovan going into the 2026 season.
This is a scenario. That Bloom can't get enough for Donovan to make trading him worthwhile.
the longer you keep him the lower his value to other teams will be....b/c they would've filled their holes going into the season.
You want 2 established MLB players for Donovan....no team will give you that. So you'll keep him and get nothing for him?
"You want 2 established MLB players for Donovan". One established MLB player and one highly rated prospect, minimum, is what I am advocating. And I'll be surprised if Bloom can't get that considering the reported interest in obtaining Donovan.
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 15:10 pm
by NYCardsFan
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:29 pm
Would the returns for Contreras, Romero, Nootbaar, Arenado and a catcher bring back enough help for the next few seasons to make not trading Donovan a better choice? I think so. With the added starting pitching An infield of Donovan 3B, Winn SS, Wetherholt 2B and Burleson 1B and adding a really productive outfield hitter might be very competitive for, at least, a wildcard in '26. Adding a really productive outfield hitter, somehow, is probably the key.
You did this
exact same thread topic just four days ago:
viewtopic.php?t=1518571
#Attention
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 15:11 pm
by ecleme22
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:29 pm
Would the returns for Contreras, Romero, Nootbaar, Arenado and a catcher bring back enough help for the next few seasons to make not trading Donovan a better choice? I think so. With the added starting pitching An infield of Donovan 3B, Winn SS, Wetherholt 2B and Burleson 1B and adding a really productive outfield hitter might be very competitive for, at least, a wildcard in '26. Adding a really productive outfield hitter, somehow, is probably the key.
I thought this OP looked familiar. Shady’s OP last Wednesday:
“Maybe Bloom, first, wants to see what he can get for Contreras, Nootbaar, Romero, Arenado, some catcher depth and even Gorman. An infield of Donovan, Winn, Wetherholt and Burleson might just compete for a Division title in '26, already, if the others mentioned can bring back enough to fill some needs.”
viewtopic.php?t=1518571&hilit=Enticing
Pretty similar, no?
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 15:14 pm
by craviduce
ecleme22 wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 15:11 pm
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:29 pm
Would the returns for Contreras, Romero, Nootbaar, Arenado and a catcher bring back enough help for the next few seasons to make not trading Donovan a better choice? I think so. With the added starting pitching An infield of Donovan 3B, Winn SS, Wetherholt 2B and Burleson 1B and adding a really productive outfield hitter might be very competitive for, at least, a wildcard in '26. Adding a really productive outfield hitter, somehow, is probably the key.
I thought this OP looked familiar. Shady’s OP last Wednesday:
“Maybe Bloom, first, wants to see what he can get for Contreras, Nootbaar, Romero, Arenado, some catcher depth and even Gorman. An infield of Donovan, Winn, Wetherholt and Burleson might just compete for a Division title in '26, already, if the others mentioned can bring back enough to fill some needs.”
viewtopic.php?t=1518571&hilit=Enticing
Pretty similar, no?
and Cusecards is there both times saying "it could happen"
hmmm...
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 15:24 pm
by Pura Vida
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 15:02 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:56 pm
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:49 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:43 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:34 pm
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:29 pm
Would the returns for Contreras, Romero, Nootbaar, Arenado and a catcher bring back enough help for the next few seasons to make not trading Donovan a better choice?
Of course it could.
Every player move can create a “domino” affect.
You’re talking about trading 4 other players!
Be patient....take it one day at a time. Long offseason still to go!
there's no "good" scenario to keeping Donovan going into the 2026 season.
This is a scenario. That Bloom can't get enough for Donovan to make trading him worthwhile.
the longer you keep him the lower his value to other teams will be....b/c they would've filled their holes going into the season.
You want 2 established MLB players for Donovan....no team will give you that. So you'll keep him and get nothing for him?
"You want 2 established MLB players for Donovan". One established MLB player and one highly rated prospect, minimum, is what I am advocating. And I'll be surprised if Bloom can't get that considering the reported interest in obtaining Donovan.
Donovan is your best all around player...can play 2nd, 3rd, RF, LF and believe it or not, there is interest.(sarcasm) They have much dead weight who are not performing...sorry! This is ridiculous unless Bloom scores BIG! Not to mention, Donovan plays "the Cardinal way".
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 15:27 pm
by zuck698
craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 15:14 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 15:11 pm
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:29 pm
Would the returns for Contreras, Romero, Nootbaar, Arenado and a catcher bring back enough help for the next few seasons to make not trading Donovan a better choice? I think so. With the added starting pitching An infield of Donovan 3B, Winn SS, Wetherholt 2B and Burleson 1B and adding a really productive outfield hitter might be very competitive for, at least, a wildcard in '26. Adding a really productive outfield hitter, somehow, is probably the key.
I thought this OP looked familiar. Shady’s OP last Wednesday:
“Maybe Bloom, first, wants to see what he can get for Contreras, Nootbaar, Romero, Arenado, some catcher depth and even Gorman. An infield of Donovan, Winn, Wetherholt and Burleson might just compete for a Division title in '26, already, if the others mentioned can bring back enough to fill some needs.”
viewtopic.php?t=1518571&hilit=Enticing
Pretty similar, no?
and Cusecards is there both times saying "it could happen"
hmmm...
I think that one is solved, now on to figuring out where Jimmy Hoffa is!
Re: If Bloom can't get a windfall for Donovan
Posted: 14 Dec 2025 15:58 pm
by Cusecards
craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:43 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:34 pm
Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:29 pm
Would the returns for Contreras, Romero, Nootbaar, Arenado and a catcher bring back enough help for the next few seasons to make not trading Donovan a better choice?
Of course it could.
Every player move can create a “domino” affect.
You’re talking about trading 4 other players!
Be patient....take it one day at a time. Long offseason still to go!
there's no "good" scenario to keeping Donovan going into the 2026 season.
Technically there is depending on the “return”.
You don’t HAVE to move Donovan although the likelihood is they will.