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Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 20:49 pm https://x.com/katiejwoo/status/2000032898607681802?s=46

We’d be better off if they were division rivals… San Fran & LA or Seattle and Houston or Texas. Or if Donovan was Asian…

Actually, pretty significant.

from the link:

One name the Cardinals have inquired on is pitcher Jurrangelo Cijntje, a first-round draft pick for Seattle in 2024, who throws both right- and left-handed. Outfielder Lazaro Montes has also been discussed, among others.

St. Louis has plenty of familiarity with the Mariners’ pitching system. Director of pitching Matt Pierpont spent four seasons with the Mariners before coming to the Cardinals ahead of the 2025 season. Seattle could also be motivated to make a big acquisition after losing Jorge Polanco to the New York Mets.

Opti

That's too bad if the Giants are a frontrunner and the Cardinals want multiple prospects. The Giants don't have multiple good prospects.

But the Giants could be just as aggressive in their pursuit. Several top prospects have been discussed in negotiations, including infielder Gavin Kilen and left-hander Carson Whisenhunt, according to a league source. It’s believed at least two organizational prospects will be required to land Donovan, who has acquired interest from over half the league.

I said a while back an offer of Cijntje, Celesten and Becker. Two 55 grade prospects and a very young 2025 second round pick. Maybe leave out Becker and add comp pick.
I hope he goes to the Mariners as I am a fan of their team. I could continue to root for him and he is what they need to improve their team.

Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 20:49 pm https://x.com/katiejwoo/status/2000032898607681802?s=46

In other news. Woo's sources have revealed the sun rises in the east.....

opti mist wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 21:08 pm But the Giants could be just as aggressive in their pursuit. Several top prospects have been discussed in negotiations, including infielder Gavin Kilen and left-hander Carson Whisenhunt, according to a league source. It’s believed at least two organizational prospects will be required to land Donovan, who has acquired interest from over half the league.

I haven't said this all offseason, but if that is all the return is, I'd rather keep Donovan, and I'm someone who firmly believes he should be traded.

I read somewhere earlier today, and I wish I could remember where, that Seattle had no interest in moving their top pitching prospects. A maybe on Cijincte but had interest in moving some of their hitting prospects. Would also be interested in any comp picks available.

Not as high on Cijincte as some of their other prospects but getting a couple of high end outfield prospects might be just as important. I read the Yankees were interested and had pitching prospects to offer. Just waiting to see how this all plays out.

Whatashame wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 21:23 pm I read somewhere earlier today, and I wish I could remember where, that Seattle had no interest in moving their top pitching prospects. A maybe on Cijincte but had interest in moving some of their hitting prospects.

Not as high on Cijincte as some of their other prospects but getting a couple of high end outfield prospects might be just as important. I read the Yankees were interested and had pitching prospects to offer. Just waiting to see how this all plays out.

Would make far more sense to demand Miller +1.

Melville wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 21:24 pm

Whatashame wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 21:23 pm I read somewhere earlier today, and I wish I could remember where, that Seattle had no interest in moving their top pitching prospects. A maybe on Cijincte but had interest in moving some of their hitting prospects.

Not as high on Cijincte as some of their other prospects but getting a couple of high end outfield prospects might be just as important. I read the Yankees were interested and had pitching prospects to offer. Just waiting to see how this all plays out.

Would make far more sense to demand Miller +1.

They debated all season this year about whether he should have surgery, or not. "Rest" was prescribed. Count me out.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 21:31 pm

Melville wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 21:24 pm

Whatashame wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 21:23 pm I read somewhere earlier today, and I wish I could remember where, that Seattle had no interest in moving their top pitching prospects. A maybe on Cijincte but had interest in moving some of their hitting prospects.

Not as high on Cijincte as some of their other prospects but getting a couple of high end outfield prospects might be just as important. I read the Yankees were interested and had pitching prospects to offer. Just waiting to see how this all plays out.

Would make far more sense to demand Miller +1.

They debated all season this year about whether he should have surgery, or not. "Rest" was prescribed. Count me out.

4 years of control remaining.
High end arm with established MLB success.
Worth the risk.

kyace wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 21:10 pm I said a while back an offer of Cijntje, Celesten and Becker. Two 55 grade prospects and a very young 2025 second round pick. Maybe leave out Becker and add comp pick.
I hope he goes to the Mariners as I am a fan of their team. I could continue to root for him and he is what they need to improve their team.

Matt Pierpont, the Cardinals' director of pitching, came over from the Seattle so he should know them well.

If they can get Montes and a good pitching prospect for Donovan they need to pull the trigger

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 21:31 pm

Melville wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 21:24 pm

Whatashame wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 21:23 pm I read somewhere earlier today, and I wish I could remember where, that Seattle had no interest in moving their top pitching prospects. A maybe on Cijincte but had interest in moving some of their hitting prospects.

Not as high on Cijincte as some of their other prospects but getting a couple of high end outfield prospects might be just as important. I read the Yankees were interested and had pitching prospects to offer. Just waiting to see how this all plays out.

Would make far more sense to demand Miller +1.

They debated all season this year about whether he should have surgery, or not. "Rest" was prescribed. Count me out.

There's more than 1 reason Seattle probably won't deal from their MLB rotation. I will be surprised if that changes. To be honest I'd be surprised if any team deals a top 3 without a lot of depth and or a bigger trade.

To Miller specifically I agree with you. Miller is also a pitcher who benefits from his home ballpark by more than a little bit.