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Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 09:04 am
by Galatians221jb1
From Ben Hochman's article this morning. Bloom says he isn't ripping anybody but then rips. So good to know that he gets it. Talking about Herrera returning to the catcher position.
"Two, and these are Chaim Bloom’s words, but: “When you look at the entirety of his career, I'm not sure he was ever really set up for success at that position because of a number of factors. And that's not a negative or taking shots at anybody. Some of it's just about the state of the organization — what else is available at the position internally, where you might not get that fair shot, and yet you're being asked to perform in the big leagues, and so you're not in a pure teaching environment, either. …
“I just think this we haven't done everything yet that we should be doing to support him as a young catcher. And we have a chance to play catch-up on that now, and it seemed to me to be something worth doing.”"
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 09:11 am
by Goldfan
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:04 am
From Ben Hochman's article this morning. Bloom says he isn't ripping anybody but then rips. So good to know that he gets it. Talking about Herrera returning to the catcher position.
"Two, and these are Chaim Bloom’s words, but: “When you look at the entirety of his career, I'm not sure he was ever really set up for success at that position because of a number of factors. And that's not a negative or taking shots at anybody. Some of it's just about the state of the organization — what else is available at the position internally, where you might not get that fair shot, and yet you're being asked to perform in the big leagues, and so you're not in a pure teaching environment, either. …
“I just think this we haven't done everything yet that we should be doing to support him as a young catcher. And we have a chance to play catch-up on that now, and it seemed to me to be something worth doing.”"
Is he going to stitch on a new right arm
either you can throw bb’s are you can’t….
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 09:15 am
by Galatians221jb1
Goldfan wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:11 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:04 am
From Ben Hochman's article this morning. Bloom says he isn't ripping anybody but then rips. So good to know that he gets it. Talking about Herrera returning to the catcher position.
"Two, and these are Chaim Bloom’s words, but: “When you look at the entirety of his career, I'm not sure he was ever really set up for success at that position because of a number of factors. And that's not a negative or taking shots at anybody. Some of it's just about the state of the organization — what else is available at the position internally, where you might not get that fair shot, and yet you're being asked to perform in the big leagues, and so you're not in a pure teaching environment, either. …
“I just think this we haven't done everything yet that we should be doing to support him as a young catcher. And we have a chance to play catch-up on that now, and it seemed to me to be something worth doing.”"
Is he going to stitch on a new right arm
either you can throw bb’s are you can’t….
Herrera had surgery on his arm or shoulder and is hoping to get back to catching. With our logjam at first base and DH that would be a great thing.
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 09:18 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:15 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:11 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:04 am
From Ben Hochman's article this morning. Bloom says he isn't ripping anybody but then rips. So good to know that he gets it. Talking about Herrera returning to the catcher position.
"Two, and these are Chaim Bloom’s words, but: “When you look at the entirety of his career, I'm not sure he was ever really set up for success at that position because of a number of factors. And that's not a negative or taking shots at anybody. Some of it's just about the state of the organization — what else is available at the position internally, where you might not get that fair shot, and yet you're being asked to perform in the big leagues, and so you're not in a pure teaching environment, either. …
“I just think this we haven't done everything yet that we should be doing to support him as a young catcher. And we have a chance to play catch-up on that now, and it seemed to me to be something worth doing.”"
Is he going to stitch on a new right arm
either you can throw bb’s are you can’t….
Herrera had surgery on his arm or shoulder and is hoping to get back to catching. With our logjam at first base and DH that would be a great thing.
However Willy may go. That would leave Burleson. One big less competitor.
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 09:28 am
by scoutyjones2
If a player isn't pursuing, in the off-season, his own improvement regime...that's on the player.
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 09:34 am
by Goldfan
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:15 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:11 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:04 am
From Ben Hochman's article this morning. Bloom says he isn't ripping anybody but then rips. So good to know that he gets it. Talking about Herrera returning to the catcher position.
"Two, and these are Chaim Bloom’s words, but: “When you look at the entirety of his career, I'm not sure he was ever really set up for success at that position because of a number of factors. And that's not a negative or taking shots at anybody. Some of it's just about the state of the organization — what else is available at the position internally, where you might not get that fair shot, and yet you're being asked to perform in the big leagues, and so you're not in a pure teaching environment, either. …
“I just think this we haven't done everything yet that we should be doing to support him as a young catcher. And we have a chance to play catch-up on that now, and it seemed to me to be something worth doing.”"
Is he going to stitch on a new right arm
either you can throw bb’s are you can’t….
Herrera had surgery on his arm or shoulder and is hoping to get back to catching. With our logjam at first base and DH that would be a great thing.
He’s never had a strong arm
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 09:49 am
by bccardsfan
Surgery or not, I fear he hasn't the arm to throw out runners..
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 09:55 am
by rockondlouie
Love it!
I've heard Bernie say, in oh so many words, when Bloom reported back to BDWJr after doing a thorough evaluations of the minor league player development system that it was a "total s h e e t show, one big cluster fudge".
Two years later Bloom has the system up to date and hopefully we start seeing immediate results when these kids are called up.
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 10:16 am
by Jeff Goldblum
Who would have thought that a pizza kitchen manager wouldn't be good at running a professional baseball franchise?
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 10:24 am
by icon
bccardsfan wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:49 am
Surgery or not, I fear he hasn't the arm to throw out runners..
Why not see what he can actually do in spring training after the surgery? Unless you think Bloom has no idea what he's talking about.
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 10:36 am
by Whatashame
Look, if Herrera is willing to work on his game to make himself a better player then that’s a good thing, right. Maybe he will suck or maybe he will come back as a better player. I don’t see him as an OFer and 1B is a little crowded right now. Maybe Bloom has a point and Herrera didn’t get much help in our system.
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 10:58 am
by Bomber1
Whatashame wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 10:36 am
Look, if Herrera is willing to work on his game to make himself a better player then that’s a good thing, right. Maybe he will suck or maybe he will come back as a better player. I don’t see him as an OFer and 1B is a little crowded right now. Maybe Bloom has a point and Herrera didn’t get much help in our system.
The cardinals have numerous catchers.
They need and have needed a RH hitting outfielder.
Herrera should play LF. Easier on his body, no need to worry about trying to throw out base stealers.
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 11:00 am
by Talkin' Baseball
Bomber1 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 10:58 am
Whatashame wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 10:36 am
Look, if Herrera is willing to work on his game to make himself a better player then that’s a good thing, right. Maybe he will suck or maybe he will come back as a better player. I don’t see him as an OFer and 1B is a little crowded right now. Maybe Bloom has a point and Herrera didn’t get much help in our system.
The cardinals have numerous catchers.
They need and have needed a RH hitting outfielder.
Herrera should play LF. Easier on his body, no need to worry about trying to throw out base stealers.
They seem intent on giving the catching a try. So be it. I don't think it will, but I hope it works. It seems like things should land where you are describing.
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 11:09 am
by riff raff
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:04 am
From Ben Hochman's article this morning. Bloom says he isn't ripping anybody but then rips. So good to know that he gets it. Talking about Herrera returning to the catcher position.
"Two, and these are Chaim Bloom’s words, but: “When you look at the entirety of his career, I'm not sure he was ever really set up for success at that position because of a number of factors. And that's not a negative or taking shots at anybody. Some of it's just about the state of the organization — what else is available at the position internally, where you might not get that fair shot, and yet you're being asked to perform in the big leagues, and so you're not in a pure teaching environment, either. …
“I just think this we haven't done everything yet that we should be doing to support him as a young catcher. And we have a chance to play catch-up on that now, and it seemed to me to be something worth doing.”"
Rips?
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 11:12 am
by Hoosier59
Now it’s being reported that Ivan is going to play for Panama in the WBC! I’m not really surprised by this, he is one of the best players from there, but it’s got to really hurt his development and his chances of being the Cardinals’ opening day catcher. I like the WBC, but the timing of it stinks.
Re: Bloom rips Cards Player Development: Refreshing
Posted: 10 Dec 2025 11:47 am
by JuanAgosto
So Bloom pointed out the fact that Mo didn't know what he was doing. Not exactly a revelation. The days of lazy, inept leadership in the front office are over. The putz is gone.
