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Mikolas also represents nearly $18M coming off the books. The funds are there to be spent.
Bloom acquired him in 2020 when he was with the Red Sox. For the Cardinals probably makes more sense as a FA target next winter than a trade target right now.mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 10:58 am Pivetta has player opt outs after each of the next two seasons.
Due $20.5 million in 2026, $14 million in 2027, and $18 million in 2028.
If he has another good year, he definitely opts out after 2026.
Bloom stole him for Brandon Workman and Heath Hembree when at Boston so we know he likes him.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 10:47 am Since we need starter innings - He seems like a much better option than Mikolas, and the savings from Gray more than covers the AAV for 26, and the contract extends thru 28, so it still covers the years we need to fully compete in.
That's 3 boxes it would check. What would he cost in trade?
Bad idea.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 10:47 am Since we need starter innings - He seems like a much better option than Mikolas, and the savings from Gray more than covers the AAV for 26, and the contract extends thru 28, so it still covers the years we need to fully compete in.
That's 3 boxes it would check. What would he cost in trade?
What if he cost Noot? SD wants to dump salary too, and we are starting out WAY WAY lower right now.ecleme22 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 11:41 amBad idea.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 10:47 am Since we need starter innings - He seems like a much better option than Mikolas, and the savings from Gray more than covers the AAV for 26, and the contract extends thru 28, so it still covers the years we need to fully compete in.
That's 3 boxes it would check. What would he cost in trade?
1. It will cost you prospects.
2. NP can opt out after next year. (The Cards have no business trading prospects for one year rentals...)
3. NP isn't cheap.
No moves should be made right now to acquire short-term vets for prospects.
You think there's a chance he would cost only Noot?Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 15:44 pmWhat if he cost Noot? SD wants to dump salary too, and we are starting out WAY WAY lower right now.ecleme22 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 11:41 amBad idea.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 10:47 am Since we need starter innings - He seems like a much better option than Mikolas, and the savings from Gray more than covers the AAV for 26, and the contract extends thru 28, so it still covers the years we need to fully compete in.
That's 3 boxes it would check. What would he cost in trade?
1. It will cost you prospects.
2. NP can opt out after next year. (The Cards have no business trading prospects for one year rentals...)
3. NP isn't cheap.
No moves should be made right now to acquire short-term vets for prospects.
Why don't you pretend I'm the Padres GM. I have Nick Pivetta who placed 6th in Cy Young last year. Tell me why I want Lars Nootbaar instead? I'm in salary dump mode, I don't want your arb-eligible injury-prone outfielder... I want Josh Baez!!Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 15:44 pmWhat if he cost Noot? SD wants to dump salary too, and we are starting out WAY WAY lower right now.ecleme22 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 11:41 amBad idea.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 10:47 am Since we need starter innings - He seems like a much better option than Mikolas, and the savings from Gray more than covers the AAV for 26, and the contract extends thru 28, so it still covers the years we need to fully compete in.
That's 3 boxes it would check. What would he cost in trade?
1. It will cost you prospects.
2. NP can opt out after next year. (The Cards have no business trading prospects for one year rentals...)
3. NP isn't cheap.
No moves should be made right now to acquire short-term vets for prospects.
Exactly.C-Unit wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 16:06 pmWhy don't you pretend I'm the Padres GM. I have Nick Pivetta who placed 6th in Cy Young last year. Tell me why I want Lars Nootbaar instead? I'm in salary dump mode, I don't want your arb-eligible injury-prone outfielder... I want Josh Baez!!Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 15:44 pmWhat if he cost Noot? SD wants to dump salary too, and we are starting out WAY WAY lower right now.ecleme22 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 11:41 amBad idea.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 10:47 am Since we need starter innings - He seems like a much better option than Mikolas, and the savings from Gray more than covers the AAV for 26, and the contract extends thru 28, so it still covers the years we need to fully compete in.
That's 3 boxes it would check. What would he cost in trade?
1. It will cost you prospects.
2. NP can opt out after next year. (The Cards have no business trading prospects for one year rentals...)
3. NP isn't cheap.
No moves should be made right now to acquire short-term vets for prospects.
Please check your math, per baseball refer. It's close to $18 mill AAVCarp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 10:47 am Since we need starter innings - He seems like a much better option than Mikolas, and the savings from Gray more than covers the AAV for 26, and the contract extends thru 28, so it still covers the years we need to fully compete in.
That's 3 boxes it would check. What would he cost in trade?
Ah so that's very complicated. Back end loaded like Gray's was, meaning SD might be willing to send cash. But even if not, he doesn't cost any more than we are saving on Mikolas.HorseTrader wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:23 pmPlease check your math, per baseball refer. It's close to $18 mill AAVCarp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 10:47 am Since we need starter innings - He seems like a much better option than Mikolas, and the savings from Gray more than covers the AAV for 26, and the contract extends thru 28, so it still covers the years we need to fully compete in.
That's 3 boxes it would check. What would he cost in trade?
Year Age Tm Salary SrvTm Sources Notes/Other Sources
2026 33 San Diego Padres $19,750,000 7.166
2027 34 San Diego Padres $14,750,000 Pivetta may opt out of contract after 2026 World Series
2028 35 San Diego Padres $18,750,000 Pivetta may opt out of contract after 2027 World Series
Although that's NOT the final numbers. Per Cots it's much more complicated with the end result depending on his health
Nick Pivetta rhp
4 years/$55M (2025-28)
4 years/$55M (2025-28)
signed by San Diego as a free agent 2/12/25
$3M signing bonus
25:$1M, 26:$19M, 27:$14M player option, 28:$18M player option (if Pivatta exercises his 2027 player option)
2027 conditional club option: if, at an point in 2025 or 2026, Pivetta has a specified injury or related surgery and spends 130 or more consecutive days on the injured list in any season or one-year period, San Diego will have a $14M club option for 2027 (if Padres have the 2027 option but decline, Pivetta becomes a free agent)
2029 conditional club option: if, between July 1, 2026 and the end of the 2028 season, Pivetta has the specified injury or related surgery and spend 130 or more consecutive days on the injured list in any season or one-year period, San Diego will have a $5M club option for 2029
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