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Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 01:18 am
by Carp4Cy
So far nothing has been reinvested from:
Goldy
Lynn
Mikolas
Edman/Fedde
Gray
Helsley
Maton
Matz
Gibson
Kittredge
So even if Bloom does eventually sign a couple of middling SPs to fill out the rotation,he's just belatedly reinvesting the savings from Lynn and Gibson. There's still a ton more dry powder up there before BDW even begins to need to trade Nado or Willson to "reinvest" their salaries. If traded, That money will not be respent. If they don't end up traded - there's still certainly room to sign some players.
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 05:39 am
by 2ninr
I consider the money they send with the player a re-investment. The more they send the better the prospect they get back. Plus the salaries of the players gotten in return.
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 05:56 am
by passthebuck
If the Cardinals don't have the lowest cost on field starting lineup in the NL central on opening day, they are doing it wrong.
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 06:00 am
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
2ninr wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 05:39 am
I consider the money they send with the player a re-investment. The more they send the better the prospect they get back. Plus the salaries of the players gotten in return.
I agree with this. I am hoping for one more big trade that nets the Cardinals a really nice return. That would make for a nice pruning and acquiring.
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 06:12 am
by Absolut
They are re reinvesting in minors, scouting and international, which sadly should never have been cut
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 06:18 am
by ScotchMIrish
I'd like to see them open the books so we can see exactly what the financials look like.
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 08:44 am
by mattmitchl44
They will sign a few cheaper FAs on short term deals.
That's all the reinvesting they should do right now.
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 08:45 am
by rockondlouie
My hope has been Dewitt and C. Bloom had an agreement that Bloom could indeed re-invest any payroll savings he achieves via trades and DFA's!
So far he's shaved $20M (Gray) but may have eat a ton to get rid of NADO.
Donny will clear another $5+M if he's dealt, WillyC would really clear payroll ($18M) since I don't think Dewitt would have to eat one penny while Bloom still got a solid return.
Dewitt almost always let Mo re-invest expired, traded or DFA'd contracts, that's been his business plan for decades.
Let's hope it doesn't end and Bloom has some money to play with, I'd love to see what he'd do as opposed to what we saw Mo do.
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 08:48 am
by Talkin' Baseball
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 06:18 am
I'd like to see them open the books so we can see exactly what the financials look like.
So far as payroll is concerned, it is none of our business what their financials look like. Now, if they come and ask for public funding for stadium upgrades, that's another matter.
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 08:57 am
by C-Unit
This path the Cardinals are taking under Bloom is well overdue.
It's a path almost every other MLB organization has undergone.
It hardly has anything to do with BDW's wallet. It's only people like the OP that are making it about that. It's almost as if they are Bloom haters, or maybe Mozeliak lovers. They don't like the Bloom way. They miss the Mozeliak way, when the organization was all about winning... and competing every year.... uhh... yeah that....
I personally like what I hear when Bloom talks to the press. At first, I thought of him as maybe just a smooth-talking salesperson type of guy. He really does have some sharpened PR skills... a sharp contrast to our former POBO. But to back up all the talk, he turns out to be very direct and actionable... which is a second stark contrast.
He said we won't skip steps. He also spoke of the Sonny Gray trade as being exactly the type of thing he alluded to in September.
And as we sit here, losers like the OP think this is all about Bill's wallet.
I guess it's just too radical for them. They miss the Mozeliak way already.
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 08:58 am
by 2ninr
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 06:18 am
I'd like to see them open the books so we can see exactly what the financials look like.
This is a real question-what other owner has done that?
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 09:01 am
by Bomber1
Profit is and always will be first and foremost in the minds of this ownership group.
They expect attendance to go down, they expect less television viewership, and they know their revenue will not be as high as 4-5 years ago.
But their profits will remain and could possibly increase.
I don’t expect them to spend much of the payroll savings from their trades.
And just because they save $ 50 million in payroll this year doesn’t mean (to ownership) that they’re going to reinvest that $50 million later.
“Dry powder” was nothing but Mozeliak-speak for “We’re going to pocket that money”.
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 09:04 am
by moose-and-squirrel
didn't they just hire 10 new people to help with the minors? is that not re-investing?
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 09:31 am
by Hoosier59
So, with the salaries for top tier talent rising by the year, and the Cardinals reducing their payroll from the 180mil level, to maybe less than 100 mil, you people are ok with this? The DeWitts love you people! They created this mess, buy going cheap, and now they’re going even cheaper. Enjoy the St. Louis Rays!
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 10:18 am
by CorneliusWolfe
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 01:18 am
So far nothing has been reinvested from:
Goldy
Lynn
Mikolas
Edman/Fedde
Gray
Helsley
Maton
Matz
Gibson
Kittredge
So even if Bloom does eventually sign a couple of middling SPs to fill out the rotation,he's just belatedly reinvesting the savings from Lynn and Gibson. There's still a ton more dry powder up there before BDW even begins to need to trade Nado or Willson to "reinvest" their salaries. If traded, That money will not be respent. If they don't end up traded - there's still certainly room to sign some players.
You knew the answer before you asked the question.
And why should he spend, when half the fan base has gone all moneyball geek? Instead of celebrating moves that improve the team, they scoff, and throw a party every time Dewitt saves a dollar.
Re: Will BDW reinvest any of the savings or just keep it this year?
Posted: 01 Dec 2025 10:49 am
by Rojo Johnson
Hoosier59 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025 09:31 am
So, with the salaries for top tier talent rising by the year, and the Cardinals reducing their payroll from the 180mil level, to maybe less than 100 mil, you people are ok with this? The DeWitts love you people! They created this mess, buy going cheap, and now they’re going even cheaper. Enjoy the St. Louis Rays!
I think St Louis Pirates is closer to the truth. Maybe White Sox? Whichever, it sucks if your name isn’t Cr$n#y.