STLtoday.com

C-Unit wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:30 pm Here's a quick summary of the players we expect to be part of our next competitive window:

Winn - FA 2030 (age 28)
Wetherholt - FA 2032 (if on O-D roster) (age 29)
Herrera - FA 2030 (age 29/30)

Josh Baez - ETA 2027?
Bernal - ETA 2027-28?
Jesus Baez - ETA 2028?
R. Rodriguez - ETA 2028?
Y. Padilla - ETA 2029?
R. Mitchell - ETA 2029?

Chase Davis, Deniel Ortiz on the way also.

These are my guesses at ETAs based not necessarily on when they'll get a Sept Call-Up, but when I think they'll first start a full season as big leaguers from Opening Day.

So if 2027-28 is when we expect this full cast to start showing up, and also about the time we should be adding supplementary veterans, then it seems like they should be setting up Winn and Wetherholt to be growing into established franchise cornerstone roles by that time. That way, you have a roster set-up with young, middle, and old.

Without extensions, by 2028, you would have Wetherholt tasting arbitration right around the corner and Winn just as close to free agency as Donovan is now.

Wetherholt seems like the type of player most organizations do not wait around long to try and lock up.

I'm not suggesting lock them up today, but I would say it should be coming to the forefront of priorities in the next calendar year.

And I'm not saying give 12 years to Winn. Something more like 6-7 years, similar to what the Braves did with A. Simmons years back.

However, the 8-10 year deal should absolutely be in the back of our minds for Wetherholt.

I could see holding off on Herrera. We like the way he's progressing. However, he is limited defensively which means the value depends on his bat really holding up. Remember how quickly Jose Martinez fell off our radar once his offense took just a small step back. (Herrera is nowhere near the liability Martinez is, but still a bat-first player) Herrera also is much younger (with better on-base skills) than Martinez was and has the potential to turn the promise into a mainstay middle of the lineup hitter for years.

If Winn and Wetherholt aren't the franchise faces, then we might as well not have any.

Bloom has been as intentional as can be about shifting the competitive window out farther and trying to build for that window. Why would he not be thinking about extensions for these two?

45s wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:42 pm

C-Unit wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:30 pm Here's a quick summary of the players we expect to be part of our next competitive window:

Winn - FA 2030 (age 28)
Wetherholt - FA 2032 (if on O-D roster) (age 29)
Herrera - FA 2030 (age 29/30)

Josh Baez - ETA 2027?
Bernal - ETA 2027-28?
Jesus Baez - ETA 2028?
R. Rodriguez - ETA 2028?
Y. Padilla - ETA 2029?
R. Mitchell - ETA 2029?

Chase Davis, Deniel Ortiz on the way also.

These are my guesses at ETAs based not necessarily on when they'll get a Sept Call-Up, but when I think they'll first start a full season as big leaguers from Opening Day.

So if 2027-28 is when we expect this full cast to start showing up, and also about the time we should be adding supplementary veterans, then it seems like they should be setting up Winn and Wetherholt to be growing into established franchise cornerstone roles by that time. That way, you have a roster set-up with young, middle, and old.

Without extensions, by 2028, you would have Wetherholt tasting arbitration right around the corner and Winn just as close to free agency as Donovan is now.

Wetherholt seems like the type of player most organizations do not wait around long to try and lock up.

I'm not suggesting lock them up today, but I would say it should be coming to the forefront of priorities in the next calendar year.

And I'm not saying give 12 years to Winn. Something more like 6-7 years, similar to what the Braves did with A. Simmons years back.

However, the 8-10 year deal should absolutely be in the back of our minds for Wetherholt.

I could see holding off on Herrera. We like the way he's progressing. However, he is limited defensively which means the value depends on his bat really holding up. Remember how quickly Jose Martinez fell off our radar once his offense took just a small step back. (Herrera is nowhere near the liability Martinez is, but still a bat-first player) Herrera also is much younger (with better on-base skills) than Martinez was and has the potential to turn the promise into a mainstay middle of the lineup hitter for years.

If Winn and Wetherholt aren't the franchise faces, then we might as well not have any.

Bloom has been as intentional as can be about shifting the competitive window out farther and trying to build for that window. Why would he not be thinking about extensions for these two?

If these players have as much confidence in themselves as the confidence you have…

They will go to free agency at the first opportunity…

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:39 pm Never needed them..I have a full head of hair

C-Unit wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:44 pm

45s wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:42 pm

C-Unit wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:30 pm Here's a quick summary of the players we expect to be part of our next competitive window:

Winn - FA 2030 (age 28)
Wetherholt - FA 2032 (if on O-D roster) (age 29)
Herrera - FA 2030 (age 29/30)

Josh Baez - ETA 2027?
Bernal - ETA 2027-28?
Jesus Baez - ETA 2028?
R. Rodriguez - ETA 2028?
Y. Padilla - ETA 2029?
R. Mitchell - ETA 2029?

Chase Davis, Deniel Ortiz on the way also.

These are my guesses at ETAs based not necessarily on when they'll get a Sept Call-Up, but when I think they'll first start a full season as big leaguers from Opening Day.

So if 2027-28 is when we expect this full cast to start showing up, and also about the time we should be adding supplementary veterans, then it seems like they should be setting up Winn and Wetherholt to be growing into established franchise cornerstone roles by that time. That way, you have a roster set-up with young, middle, and old.

Without extensions, by 2028, you would have Wetherholt tasting arbitration right around the corner and Winn just as close to free agency as Donovan is now.

Wetherholt seems like the type of player most organizations do not wait around long to try and lock up.

I'm not suggesting lock them up today, but I would say it should be coming to the forefront of priorities in the next calendar year.

And I'm not saying give 12 years to Winn. Something more like 6-7 years, similar to what the Braves did with A. Simmons years back.

However, the 8-10 year deal should absolutely be in the back of our minds for Wetherholt.

I could see holding off on Herrera. We like the way he's progressing. However, he is limited defensively which means the value depends on his bat really holding up. Remember how quickly Jose Martinez fell off our radar once his offense took just a small step back. (Herrera is nowhere near the liability Martinez is, but still a bat-first player) Herrera also is much younger (with better on-base skills) than Martinez was and has the potential to turn the promise into a mainstay middle of the lineup hitter for years.

If Winn and Wetherholt aren't the franchise faces, then we might as well not have any.

Bloom has been as intentional as can be about shifting the competitive window out farther and trying to build for that window. Why would he not be thinking about extensions for these two?

If these players have as much confidence in themselves as the confidence you have…

They will go to free agency at the first opportunity…

I bet you'll still be posting here in 2030

C-Unit wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:30 pm Here's a quick summary of the players we expect to be part of our next competitive window:

Winn - FA 2030 (age 28)
Wetherholt - FA 2032 (if on O-D roster) (age 29)
Herrera - FA 2030 (age 29/30)

Josh Baez - ETA 2027?
Bernal - ETA 2027-28?
Jesus Baez - ETA 2028?
R. Rodriguez - ETA 2028?
Y. Padilla - ETA 2029?
R. Mitchell - ETA 2029?

Chase Davis, Deniel Ortiz on the way also.

These are my guesses at ETAs based not necessarily on when they'll get a Sept Call-Up, but when I think they'll first start a full season as big leaguers from Opening Day.

So if 2027-28 is when we expect this full cast to start showing up, and also about the time we should be adding supplementary veterans, then it seems like they should be setting up Winn and Wetherholt to be growing into established franchise cornerstone roles by that time. That way, you have a roster set-up with young, middle, and old.

Without extensions, by 2028, you would have Wetherholt tasting arbitration right around the corner and Winn just as close to free agency as Donovan is now.

Wetherholt seems like the type of player most organizations do not wait around long to try and lock up.

I'm not suggesting lock them up today, but I would say it should be coming to the forefront of priorities in the next calendar year.

And I'm not saying give 12 years to Winn. Something more like 6-7 years, similar to what the Braves did with A. Simmons years back.

However, the 8-10 year deal should absolutely be in the back of our minds for Wetherholt.

I could see holding off on Herrera. We like the way he's progressing. However, he is limited defensively which means the value depends on his bat really holding up. Remember how quickly Jose Martinez fell off our radar once his offense took just a small step back. (Herrera is nowhere near the liability Martinez is, but still a bat-first player) Herrera also is much younger (with better on-base skills) than Martinez was and has the potential to turn the promise into a mainstay middle of the lineup hitter for years.

If Winn and Wetherholt aren't the franchise faces, then we might as well not have any.

Bloom has been as intentional as can be about shifting the competitive window out farther and trying to build for that window. Why would he not be thinking about extensions for these two?

ramfandan wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 16:00 pm

C-Unit wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:30 pm Here's a quick summary of the players we expect to be part of our next competitive window:

Winn - FA 2030 (age 28)
Wetherholt - FA 2032 (if on O-D roster) (age 29)
Herrera - FA 2030 (age 29/30)

Josh Baez - ETA 2027?
Bernal - ETA 2027-28?
Jesus Baez - ETA 2028?
R. Rodriguez - ETA 2028?
Y. Padilla - ETA 2029?
R. Mitchell - ETA 2029?

Chase Davis, Deniel Ortiz on the way also.

These are my guesses at ETAs based not necessarily on when they'll get a Sept Call-Up, but when I think they'll first start a full season as big leaguers from Opening Day.

So if 2027-28 is when we expect this full cast to start showing up, and also about the time we should be adding supplementary veterans, then it seems like they should be setting up Winn and Wetherholt to be growing into established franchise cornerstone roles by that time. That way, you have a roster set-up with young, middle, and old.

Without extensions, by 2028, you would have Wetherholt tasting arbitration right around the corner and Winn just as close to free agency as Donovan is now.

Wetherholt seems like the type of player most organizations do not wait around long to try and lock up.

I'm not suggesting lock them up today, but I would say it should be coming to the forefront of priorities in the next calendar year.

And I'm not saying give 12 years to Winn. Something more like 6-7 years, similar to what the Braves did with A. Simmons years back.

However, the 8-10 year deal should absolutely be in the back of our minds for Wetherholt.

I could see holding off on Herrera. We like the way he's progressing. However, he is limited defensively which means the value depends on his bat really holding up. Remember how quickly Jose Martinez fell off our radar once his offense took just a small step back. (Herrera is nowhere near the liability Martinez is, but still a bat-first player) Herrera also is much younger (with better on-base skills) than Martinez was and has the potential to turn the promise into a mainstay middle of the lineup hitter for years.

If Winn and Wetherholt aren't the franchise faces, then we might as well not have any.

Bloom has been as intentional as can be about shifting the competitive window out farther and trying to build for that window. Why would he not be thinking about extensions for these two?

Good thorough list except for a major starting pitcher coming soon.
Liam Doyle Cards No. 1

C-Unit wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 16:04 pm

ramfandan wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 16:00 pm

C-Unit wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:30 pm Here's a quick summary of the players we expect to be part of our next competitive window:

Winn - FA 2030 (age 28)
Wetherholt - FA 2032 (if on O-D roster) (age 29)
Herrera - FA 2030 (age 29/30)

Josh Baez - ETA 2027?
Bernal - ETA 2027-28?
Jesus Baez - ETA 2028?
R. Rodriguez - ETA 2028?
Y. Padilla - ETA 2029?
R. Mitchell - ETA 2029?

Chase Davis, Deniel Ortiz on the way also.

These are my guesses at ETAs based not necessarily on when they'll get a Sept Call-Up, but when I think they'll first start a full season as big leaguers from Opening Day.

So if 2027-28 is when we expect this full cast to start showing up, and also about the time we should be adding supplementary veterans, then it seems like they should be setting up Winn and Wetherholt to be growing into established franchise cornerstone roles by that time. That way, you have a roster set-up with young, middle, and old.

Without extensions, by 2028, you would have Wetherholt tasting arbitration right around the corner and Winn just as close to free agency as Donovan is now.

Wetherholt seems like the type of player most organizations do not wait around long to try and lock up.

I'm not suggesting lock them up today, but I would say it should be coming to the forefront of priorities in the next calendar year.

And I'm not saying give 12 years to Winn. Something more like 6-7 years, similar to what the Braves did with A. Simmons years back.

However, the 8-10 year deal should absolutely be in the back of our minds for Wetherholt.

I could see holding off on Herrera. We like the way he's progressing. However, he is limited defensively which means the value depends on his bat really holding up. Remember how quickly Jose Martinez fell off our radar once his offense took just a small step back. (Herrera is nowhere near the liability Martinez is, but still a bat-first player) Herrera also is much younger (with better on-base skills) than Martinez was and has the potential to turn the promise into a mainstay middle of the lineup hitter for years.

If Winn and Wetherholt aren't the franchise faces, then we might as well not have any.

Bloom has been as intentional as can be about shifting the competitive window out farther and trying to build for that window. Why would he not be thinking about extensions for these two?

Good thorough list except for a major starting pitcher coming soon.
Liam Doyle Cards No. 1

I left pitchers off because they're pitchers but certainly worth mentioning.

ramfandan wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 16:23 pm

C-Unit wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 16:04 pm

ramfandan wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 16:00 pm

C-Unit wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:30 pm Here's a quick summary of the players we expect to be part of our next competitive window:

Winn - FA 2030 (age 28)
Wetherholt - FA 2032 (if on O-D roster) (age 29)
Herrera - FA 2030 (age 29/30)

Josh Baez - ETA 2027?
Bernal - ETA 2027-28?
Jesus Baez - ETA 2028?
R. Rodriguez - ETA 2028?
Y. Padilla - ETA 2029?
R. Mitchell - ETA 2029?

Chase Davis, Deniel Ortiz on the way also.

These are my guesses at ETAs based not necessarily on when they'll get a Sept Call-Up, but when I think they'll first start a full season as big leaguers from Opening Day.

So if 2027-28 is when we expect this full cast to start showing up, and also about the time we should be adding supplementary veterans, then it seems like they should be setting up Winn and Wetherholt to be growing into established franchise cornerstone roles by that time. That way, you have a roster set-up with young, middle, and old.

Without extensions, by 2028, you would have Wetherholt tasting arbitration right around the corner and Winn just as close to free agency as Donovan is now.

Wetherholt seems like the type of player most organizations do not wait around long to try and lock up.

I'm not suggesting lock them up today, but I would say it should be coming to the forefront of priorities in the next calendar year.

And I'm not saying give 12 years to Winn. Something more like 6-7 years, similar to what the Braves did with A. Simmons years back.

However, the 8-10 year deal should absolutely be in the back of our minds for Wetherholt.

I could see holding off on Herrera. We like the way he's progressing. However, he is limited defensively which means the value depends on his bat really holding up. Remember how quickly Jose Martinez fell off our radar once his offense took just a small step back. (Herrera is nowhere near the liability Martinez is, but still a bat-first player) Herrera also is much younger (with better on-base skills) than Martinez was and has the potential to turn the promise into a mainstay middle of the lineup hitter for years.

If Winn and Wetherholt aren't the franchise faces, then we might as well not have any.

Bloom has been as intentional as can be about shifting the competitive window out farther and trying to build for that window. Why would he not be thinking about extensions for these two?

Good thorough list except for a major starting pitcher coming soon.
Liam Doyle Cards No. 1

I left pitchers off because they're pitchers but certainly worth mentioning.

Oh ! Well pitchers are players too. Didn't cross my mind that you intended to omit pitchers from the list. Thanks for the reply.
Yes, Doyle is certainly worth mentioning. Hopefully he becomes either a No. 1 or No. 2 in the roation in the next window. If Bloom hits on Doyle , you would certainly try to lock him up to an extension. Top starting pitchers are gold ! Look at the big $$$ they get .

C-Unit wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:52 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:39 pm Never needed them..I have a full head of hair

Well then go ahead and tie the long hair on your head to the short hair on your (donkey) and I'll kick you down the street.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025 15:39 pm Never needed them..I have a full head of hair