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How do Doyle and Clarke compare?

Posted: 28 Nov 2025 15:15 pm
by Shady
Doyle is slightly younger and will likely start out the coming season at a higher level in the Cardinals organization than Clarke. Both are flame-throwing lefties. But Clarke seems to have the better breaking pitch. It's going to be fun to watch these two develop.

Re: How do Doyle and Clarke compare?

Posted: 28 Nov 2025 15:41 pm
by Mr Buttercup
Your girlfriend says one has more stamina and the other greater length.

Re: How do Doyle and Clarke compare?

Posted: 28 Nov 2025 16:05 pm
by scoutyjones2
Shady wrote: 28 Nov 2025 15:15 pm Doyle is slightly younger and will likely start out the coming season at a higher level in the Cardinals organization than Clarke. Both are flame-throwing lefties. But Clarke seems to have the better breaking pitch. It's going to be fun to watch these two develop.
Shut up Bobo

Re: How do Doyle and Clarke compare?

Posted: 28 Nov 2025 19:40 pm
by Cranny
Mr Buttercup wrote: 28 Nov 2025 15:41 pm Your girlfriend says one has more stamina and the other greater length.
Very immature post.

Re: How do Doyle and Clarke compare?

Posted: 28 Nov 2025 20:23 pm
by hullie
Mr Buttercup wrote: 28 Nov 2025 15:41 pm Your girlfriend says one has more stamina and the other greater length.
Girlfriend??? LMAO

Re: How do Doyle and Clarke compare?

Posted: 28 Nov 2025 20:24 pm
by billybaseball
Clarke has a better breaking pitch but Doyle has better movement on his fastball. Doyle also has pitched a ton more than Clarke. Doyle could hypothetically step into a ML rotation at some point this season while Clarke is years away from a ML rotation. Clarke's fastest way to the majors is through the bullpen

Re: How do Doyle and Clarke compare?

Posted: 28 Nov 2025 20:25 pm
by scoutyjones2
hullie wrote: 28 Nov 2025 20:23 pm
Mr Buttercup wrote: 28 Nov 2025 15:41 pm Your girlfriend says one has more stamina and the other greater length.
Girlfriend??? LMAO
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: How do Doyle and Clarke compare?

Posted: 28 Nov 2025 20:46 pm
by ramfandan
Doyle had best strikeouts per 9 innings in Div. 1 nationally last year.

Much more highly rated than Clarke at least at this point.

Re: How do Doyle and Clarke compare?

Posted: 28 Nov 2025 20:48 pm
by Carp4Cy
billybaseball wrote: 28 Nov 2025 20:24 pm Clarke has a better breaking pitch but Doyle has better movement on his fastball. Doyle also has pitched a ton more than Clarke. Doyle could hypothetically step into a ML rotation at some point this season while Clarke is years away from a ML rotation. Clarke's fastest way to the majors is through the bullpen
What is Clarke background? Supposedly he pitched college somewhere but his stats don’t show up on BBR.

Was he any good? Durable?

Re: How do Doyle and Clarke compare?

Posted: 28 Nov 2025 21:18 pm
by billybaseball
Carp4Cy wrote: 28 Nov 2025 20:48 pm
billybaseball wrote: 28 Nov 2025 20:24 pm Clarke has a better breaking pitch but Doyle has better movement on his fastball. Doyle also has pitched a ton more than Clarke. Doyle could hypothetically step into a ML rotation at some point this season while Clarke is years away from a ML rotation. Clarke's fastest way to the majors is through the bullpen
What is Clarke background? Supposedly he pitched college somewhere but his stats don’t show up on BBR.

Was he any good? Durable?
"Clarke bounced back from Tommy John surgery as a junior to become Virginia's best prep pitching prospect in 2021. He developed thoracic issues while coming back from his elbow reconstruction, so he redshirted at Alabama in 2022 and worked just 3 2/3 innings the following year at the State JC of Florida (Manatee-Sarasota). He became the best junior college prospect in the 2024 Draft, leading Florida juco pitchers with 107 strikeouts in 74 1/3 frames last spring and impressing at the MLB Draft Combine before signing with the Red Sox for a below-slot $400,000 as a fifth-rounder. After his first full season (in which he was limited to 38 innings by issues with blisters), he was traded to the Cardinals in November in a deal for Sonny Gray." - https://www.mlb.com/milb/prospects/cardinals/

Re: How do Doyle and Clarke compare?

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 10:16 am
by Carp4Cy
billybaseball wrote: 28 Nov 2025 21:18 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 28 Nov 2025 20:48 pm
billybaseball wrote: 28 Nov 2025 20:24 pm Clarke has a better breaking pitch but Doyle has better movement on his fastball. Doyle also has pitched a ton more than Clarke. Doyle could hypothetically step into a ML rotation at some point this season while Clarke is years away from a ML rotation. Clarke's fastest way to the majors is through the bullpen
What is Clarke background? Supposedly he pitched college somewhere but his stats don’t show up on BBR.

Was he any good? Durable?
"Clarke bounced back from Tommy John surgery as a junior to become Virginia's best prep pitching prospect in 2021. He developed thoracic issues while coming back from his elbow reconstruction, so he redshirted at Alabama in 2022 and worked just 3 2/3 innings the following year at the State JC of Florida (Manatee-Sarasota). He became the best junior college prospect in the 2024 Draft, leading Florida juco pitchers with 107 strikeouts in 74 1/3 frames last spring and impressing at the MLB Draft Combine before signing with the Red Sox for a below-slot $400,000 as a fifth-rounder. After his first full season (in which he was limited to 38 innings by issues with blisters), he was traded to the Cardinals in November in a deal for Sonny Gray." - https://www.mlb.com/milb/prospects/cardinals/
That read sounds like a Lot of injuries. Thoracic never sounds good.

So basically, he pitched nothing in the minors the year He was drafted and 14 outings for the second year. Meanwhile, doyle pitch two outings after being drafted and if he is only appears in 14 games next year, that would be a severe disappointment.

Re: How do Doyle and Clarke compare?

Posted: 29 Nov 2025 10:23 am
by rockondlouie
Doyle is a top tier MLB prospect destined to be a quality major league starter once the rough edges are sanded off by the minor league staff and his command issues are under control.

Clarke is your proverbial "lotto ticket" who if he develops and stays healthy could be a major steal for the Cardinals......or he could be a major bust.

Doyle is likely to be in St. Louis by the 2027 season, perhaps even a late 2026 call up but C. Bloom doesn't rush young starting pitchers so he'll have to show he's ready.

Clarke will likely take multiple years of coaching, I wouldn't think we see him (if ever) until after the 2028 season at best.

JMO