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Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:07 pm
by rockondlouie
Cardinals trade grade
Fitts had just an OK full year for the Sox, with a 5.00 ERA in 10 starts. But he's young and there's potential there, it seems.
Clarke is among the top-five prospects for the Sox, so that's a really good return there.
GRADE: B+
Red Sox trade grade
GRADE: B
-USAToday
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:13 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:07 pm
Cardinals trade grade
Fitts had just an OK full year for the Sox, with a 5.00 ERA in 10 starts. But he's young and there's potential there, it seems.
Clarke is among the top-five prospects for the Sox, so that's a really good return there.
GRADE: B+
Red Sox trade grade
GRADE: B
-USAToday
What could they have done better to earn an A?
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:17 pm
by craviduce
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:13 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:07 pm
Cardinals trade grade
Fitts had just an OK full year for the Sox, with a 5.00 ERA in 10 starts. But he's young and there's potential there, it seems.
Clarke is among the top-five prospects for the Sox, so that's a really good return there.
GRADE: B+
Red Sox trade grade
GRADE: B
-USAToday
What could they have done better to earn an A?
"Dress in drag and do the Hula?"
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:19 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:17 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:13 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:07 pm
Cardinals trade grade
Fitts had just an OK full year for the Sox, with a 5.00 ERA in 10 starts. But he's young and there's potential there, it seems.
Clarke is among the top-five prospects for the Sox, so that's a really good return there.
GRADE: B+
Red Sox trade grade
GRADE: B
-USAToday
What could they have done better to earn an A?
"Dress in drag and do the Hula?"
Made me laugh!
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:19 pm
by Adam2
If you expected better you are delusional. this is a solid transaction with more high ceiling low floor players we haven't looked for in a long time. We need more boom or bust prospects like this. enough 92 pitch to contact
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:23 pm
by Strummer Jones
Adam2 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:19 pm
If you expected better you are delusional. this is a solid transaction with more high ceiling low floor players we haven't looked for in a long time. We need more boom or bust prospects like this. enough 92 pitch to contact
I didn't expect even this good. Maybe it's the past few seasons of trading players for lottery tickets in High-A, but I'm pleasantly surprised. We got one lotto ticket who will either be a knockout starter or a back-end reliever, and a guy who looks like he could be a contributing starting pitcher. And we got 15-20 million off the books. Loved Sonny, but at least he left in a trade that likely benefits us in the long run.
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:24 pm
by NYCardsFan
The best thing about this trade is it shows the Cardinals are committed to acquiring prospects and not just offloading salary. Gray wouldn't have required a ton of cash to be kicked in if the goal were just a salary dump.
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:25 pm
by 2ninr
This is exactly what I was hoping for. Willingness to pay salary to get better prospect. Thanks for the laugh Crav.
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:28 pm
by Jobu's Rum
Adam2 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:19 pm
If you expected better you are delusional. this is a solid transaction with more high ceiling low floor players we haven't looked for in a long time. We need more boom or bust prospects like this. enough 92 pitch to contact
Agree, only so much you can get for a pitcher and contract like Grays. Solid move, ANNNND he didn’t wait like Moe always did, he opened some of the firing shots for this offseason
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:34 pm
by Dicktar2023
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:13 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:07 pm
Cardinals trade grade
Fitts had just an OK full year for the Sox, with a 5.00 ERA in 10 starts. But he's young and there's potential there, it seems.
Clarke is among the top-five prospects for the Sox, so that's a really good return there.
GRADE: B+
Red Sox trade grade
GRADE: B
-USAToday
What could they have done better to earn an A?
Right?
Even I'm finding it hard to be disappointed with this, and that normally comes very easy to me.
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:41 pm
by ramfandan
My early thought is this was a positive trade for Bloom .
The key is making more 'good' trades than 'bad' ones and Bloom will be very good.
Brewers POBO Matt Arnold recently voted Exec. of the Year for the 2nd straight year said on MLB interview
(paraphrasing ) .. Not all trades work out , as long as you make more good ones than bad ones your organization will be doing well.
Bloom' success will be the same thing.
I don't expect that all his moves will pan out but if he makes more good ones than poor ones, the Cardinals will improve very much.
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:44 pm
by rockondlouie
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:13 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:07 pm
Cardinals trade grade
Fitts had just an OK full year for the Sox, with a 5.00 ERA in 10 starts. But he's young and there's potential there, it seems.
Clarke is among the top-five prospects for the Sox, so that's a really good return there.
GRADE: B+
Red Sox trade grade
GRADE: B
-USAToday
What could they have done better to earn an A?
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:46 pm
by rockondlouie
craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:17 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:13 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:07 pm
Cardinals trade grade
Fitts had just an OK full year for the Sox, with a 5.00 ERA in 10 starts. But he's young and there's potential there, it seems.
Clarke is among the top-five prospects for the Sox, so that's a really good return there.
GRADE: B+
Red Sox trade grade
GRADE: B
-USAToday
What could they have done better to earn an A?
"Dress in drag and do the Hula?"
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:48 pm
by rockondlouie
NYCardsFan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:24 pm
The best thing about this trade is it shows the Cardinals are
committed to acquiring prospects and not just offloading salary. Gray wouldn't have required a ton of cash to be kicked in if the goal were just a salary dump.
BINGO NYCF
From Yahoo:
Bloom made it clear that instead of just dumping payroll, they needed prospects in return, and were willing to pay about half of the remainder of Gray’s contract.
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:49 pm
by Ozziesfan41
ramfandan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:41 pm
My early thought is this was a positive trade for Bloom .
The key is making more 'good' trades than 'bad' ones and Bloom will be very good.
Brewers POBO Matt Arnold recently voted Exec. of the Year for the 2nd straight year said on MLB interview
(paraphrasing ) .. Not all trades work out , as long as you make more good ones than bad ones your organization will be doing well.
Bloom' success will be the same thing.
I don't expect that all his moves will pan out but if he makes more good ones than poor ones, the Cardinals will improve very much.
Agree mo was striking out on just about every move he made and the few he did hit on he wouldn’t do anything to supplement in order to make the cardinals actually good
Re: Cardinals Trade Grade = B+
Posted: 25 Nov 2025 12:49 pm
by Carp4Cy
NYCardsFan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 12:24 pm
The best thing about this trade is it shows the Cardinals are committed to acquiring prospects and not just offloading salary. Gray wouldn't have required a ton of cash to be kicked in if the goal were just a salary dump.
These are the type of long shot prospects that very likely don't move the needle. No one is a former 1st or 2nd round pick, no one is a big threat to become a future AS or 4-6 fWAR SP. Just JAGs and depth and maybe a distant future bullpen arm in Clarke - but you can always find proven plus bullpen arms for less then $20M.
If Clarke were all that, Boston wouldn't have let him go. They traded him for a reason.