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Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 21:21 pm The basic question is this- would you trade the player who is clearly our best hitter for someone who would instantly become our best pitcher? I'm still undecided.

Here is the question: Would you trade Ivan Herrera, Nolan Gorman, Ixan Henderson, and Chase Davis for Chase Dollander of the Rockies?

Chase Dollander was chosen in the first round at #9 in 2023 out of Tennessee. He just got introduced to Coors field this year and still has 5 years of team control left. He is a right hander with a four-seam fastball average velocity of 97.9, which is in the 94th percentile. His overall line was bad in 2025. It would seem like maybe they wouldn't trade him, and maybe they won't, but last season while the Rockies pitching was finishing 30th in the majors, their hitting was finishing 29th. How do you play half of your games at Coors Field and finish 29th in hitting! That can't happen. Colorado will NEVER be successful finishing in the bottom half of the majors in hitting no matter who they send to the mound. They have to fix the hitting.

Here's an interesting thought- could an acquisition like this work out like the trade for Daryl Kile in 2000? Check this out:
Chase Dollander 2025 overall
GS 21 W 2 L 12 ERA 6.52 IP 98 K 82 K/9 7.5 WHIP 1.551
Chase Dollander Home
GS 11 W 2 L 6 ERA 9.98 IP 46 K 35 K/9 6.8 WHIP 1.978
Chase Dollander Away
GS 10 W 0 L 6 ERA 3.46 IP 52 K 35 K/9 8.1 WHIP 1.173

Now compare Kile's last year in Colorado to Dollander's season totals
GS 32 W 6 L 13 ERA 6.61 IP 190.2 K 116 K/9 5.5 WHIP 1.752

Now compare Kile's first season in St. Louis with Dollander's road totals, especially the ERA and WHIP
GS 34 W 20 L 9 ERA 3.91 IP 232.1 K 192 K/9 7.4 WHIP 1.175

Kile had been successful previously in Houston, but Coors Field does something to pitchers.

Would you swap our best hitter to see what Dollander would do outside of Colorado? Would it be easier in the next 2-3 seasons to develop, trade for, or sign a hitter to approximate what Herrera does, or would it be easier to develop, trade for, or sign whatever Dollander could be in St Louis? Herrera and Gorman would love hitting there. Davis would be great patroling their huge CF.

Jatalk wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 06:18 am

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 21:21 pm The basic question is this- would you trade the player who is clearly our best hitter for someone who would instantly become our best pitcher? I'm still undecided.

Here is the question: Would you trade Ivan Herrera, Nolan Gorman, Ixan Henderson, and Chase Davis for Chase Dollander of the Rockies?

Chase Dollander was chosen in the first round at #9 in 2023 out of Tennessee. He just got introduced to Coors field this year and still has 5 years of team control left. He is a right hander with a four-seam fastball average velocity of 97.9, which is in the 94th percentile. His overall line was bad in 2025. It would seem like maybe they wouldn't trade him, and maybe they won't, but last season while the Rockies pitching was finishing 30th in the majors, their hitting was finishing 29th. How do you play half of your games at Coors Field and finish 29th in hitting! That can't happen. Colorado will NEVER be successful finishing in the bottom half of the majors in hitting no matter who they send to the mound. They have to fix the hitting.

Here's an interesting thought- could an acquisition like this work out like the trade for Daryl Kile in 2000? Check this out:
Chase Dollander 2025 overall
GS 21 W 2 L 12 ERA 6.52 IP 98 K 82 K/9 7.5 WHIP 1.551
Chase Dollander Home
GS 11 W 2 L 6 ERA 9.98 IP 46 K 35 K/9 6.8 WHIP 1.978
Chase Dollander Away
GS 10 W 0 L 6 ERA 3.46 IP 52 K 35 K/9 8.1 WHIP 1.173

Now compare Kile's last year in Colorado to Dollander's season totals
GS 32 W 6 L 13 ERA 6.61 IP 190.2 K 116 K/9 5.5 WHIP 1.752

Now compare Kile's first season in St. Louis with Dollander's road totals, especially the ERA and WHIP
GS 34 W 20 L 9 ERA 3.91 IP 232.1 K 192 K/9 7.4 WHIP 1.175

Kile had been successful previously in Houston, but Coors Field does something to pitchers.

Would you swap our best hitter to see what Dollander would do outside of Colorado? Would it be easier in the next 2-3 seasons to develop, trade for, or sign a hitter to approximate what Herrera does, or would it be easier to develop, trade for, or sign whatever Dollander could be in St Louis? Herrera and Gorman would love hitting there. Davis would be great patroling their huge CF.

Herrera would be on my trade list for any player that improves team. I would rather focus on outfield rather than pitching. I prefer making moves for offense and defense in outfield.

Gorman I would trade just to dump him.

Davis not sure. I would have to ponder that.

ecleme22 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 09:04 am What’s philosophical about this? Honest question.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 21:21 pm The basic question is this- would you trade the player who is clearly our best hitter for someone who would instantly become our best pitcher? I'm still undecided.

Here is the question: Would you trade Ivan Herrera, Nolan Gorman, Ixan Henderson, and Chase Davis for Chase Dollander of the Rockies?

Chase Dollander was chosen in the first round at #9 in 2023 out of Tennessee. He just got introduced to Coors field this year and still has 5 years of team control left. He is a right hander with a four-seam fastball average velocity of 97.9, which is in the 94th percentile. His overall line was bad in 2025. It would seem like maybe they wouldn't trade him, and maybe they won't, but last season while the Rockies pitching was finishing 30th in the majors, their hitting was finishing 29th. How do you play half of your games at Coors Field and finish 29th in hitting! That can't happen. Colorado will NEVER be successful finishing in the bottom half of the majors in hitting no matter who they send to the mound. They have to fix the hitting.

Here's an interesting thought- could an acquisition like this work out like the trade for Daryl Kile in 2000? Check this out:
Chase Dollander 2025 overall
GS 21 W 2 L 12 ERA 6.52 IP 98 K 82 K/9 7.5 WHIP 1.551
Chase Dollander Home
GS 11 W 2 L 6 ERA 9.98 IP 46 K 35 K/9 6.8 WHIP 1.978
Chase Dollander Away
GS 10 W 0 L 6 ERA 3.46 IP 52 K 35 K/9 8.1 WHIP 1.173

Now compare Kile's last year in Colorado to Dollander's season totals
GS 32 W 6 L 13 ERA 6.61 IP 190.2 K 116 K/9 5.5 WHIP 1.752

Now compare Kile's first season in St. Louis with Dollander's road totals, especially the ERA and WHIP
GS 34 W 20 L 9 ERA 3.91 IP 232.1 K 192 K/9 7.4 WHIP 1.175

Kile had been successful previously in Houston, but Coors Field does something to pitchers.

Would you swap our best hitter to see what Dollander would do outside of Colorado? Would it be easier in the next 2-3 seasons to develop, trade for, or sign a hitter to approximate what Herrera does, or would it be easier to develop, trade for, or sign whatever Dollander could be in St Louis? Herrera and Gorman would love hitting there. Davis would be great patroling their huge CF.

45s wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 10:58 am No…

While I agree that acquiring pitching is hugely important…….every pitcher is always one pitch away from the surgeon….

a good hitter is more likely to contribute everyday…

That’s why it’s so important for a club to develop their own pitch and not raid their own roster…

(a side observation….I don’t know how Gorman made your list of good hitters)

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 09:34 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 09:04 am What’s philosophical about this? Honest question.

What is the priority when constructing a roster and is one area easier to fill than another.

ecleme22 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 11:34 am

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 09:34 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 09:04 am What’s philosophical about this? Honest question.

What is the priority when constructing a roster and is one area easier to fill than another.

Eh, I wouldn't do it this early in the rebuild. It's too hard to tell what we will actually need. Maybe Herrera is something we need.

OldRed wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 08:26 am

Jatalk wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 06:18 am

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 21:21 pm The basic question is this- would you trade the player who is clearly our best hitter for someone who would instantly become our best pitcher? I'm still undecided.

Here is the question: Would you trade Ivan Herrera, Nolan Gorman, Ixan Henderson, and Chase Davis for Chase Dollander of the Rockies?

Chase Dollander was chosen in the first round at #9 in 2023 out of Tennessee. He just got introduced to Coors field this year and still has 5 years of team control left. He is a right hander with a four-seam fastball average velocity of 97.9, which is in the 94th percentile. His overall line was bad in 2025. It would seem like maybe they wouldn't trade him, and maybe they won't, but last season while the Rockies pitching was finishing 30th in the majors, their hitting was finishing 29th. How do you play half of your games at Coors Field and finish 29th in hitting! That can't happen. Colorado will NEVER be successful finishing in the bottom half of the majors in hitting no matter who they send to the mound. They have to fix the hitting.

Here's an interesting thought- could an acquisition like this work out like the trade for Daryl Kile in 2000? Check this out:
Chase Dollander 2025 overall
GS 21 W 2 L 12 ERA 6.52 IP 98 K 82 K/9 7.5 WHIP 1.551
Chase Dollander Home
GS 11 W 2 L 6 ERA 9.98 IP 46 K 35 K/9 6.8 WHIP 1.978
Chase Dollander Away
GS 10 W 0 L 6 ERA 3.46 IP 52 K 35 K/9 8.1 WHIP 1.173

Now compare Kile's last year in Colorado to Dollander's season totals
GS 32 W 6 L 13 ERA 6.61 IP 190.2 K 116 K/9 5.5 WHIP 1.752

Now compare Kile's first season in St. Louis with Dollander's road totals, especially the ERA and WHIP
GS 34 W 20 L 9 ERA 3.91 IP 232.1 K 192 K/9 7.4 WHIP 1.175

Kile had been successful previously in Houston, but Coors Field does something to pitchers.

Would you swap our best hitter to see what Dollander would do outside of Colorado? Would it be easier in the next 2-3 seasons to develop, trade for, or sign a hitter to approximate what Herrera does, or would it be easier to develop, trade for, or sign whatever Dollander could be in St Louis? Herrera and Gorman would love hitting there. Davis would be great patroling their huge CF.

Herrera would be on my trade list for any player that improves team. I would rather focus on outfield rather than pitching. I prefer making moves for offense and defense in outfield.

Gorman I would trade just to dump him.

Davis not sure. I would have to ponder that.

Pitching is always more valuable than offense.

45s wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 10:58 am No…

While I agree that acquiring pitching is hugely important…….every pitcher is always one pitch away from the surgeon….

a good hitter is more likely to contribute everyday…

That’s why it’s so important for a club to develop their own pitch and not raid their own roster…

(a side observation….I don’t know how Gorman made your list of good hitters)