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Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:13 pm Frankly, I would entertain conversation from any team about Gorman, but with his trade value where it is, interest may be limited. Here are two teams the Cardinals should initiate a conversation with about a Gorman trade.

Athletics- I've been saying this for about 6 months now. They are really getting set up with young, dynamic position players, but lack a third baseman. They have a super-crowded outfield. Ask about right-handed hitting Colby Thomas. He plays all three OF spots, hits for power, and strikes out a bunch. He is fairly fast, and hopelessly blocked. They have another OF prospect coming along who is very similar (Henry Bolte). I can't imagine how many HR Gorman might hit playing in the minor league stadium in Sacramento. Gormans' trade value has been very similar to that of Thomas all season until he tanked in September. Ask.

Arizona Diamondbacks- Since they traded Eugenio Suarez they have had an opening to fill at 3B. They have tried prospect Jordan Lawler there, but as inconceivable as it sounds, he has been decidedly worse than Gorman. In 42 big league games he has hit .165 with 0 HR, and 5 RBI's. He has struck out at a 35% clip and mustered a .478 OPS. He is 23 years old and has played 2B, SS, and 3B. He is more athletic than Gorman, and while probably not with the same power potential, probably a more balanced hitter. Currently, Lawler's trade value sits at 0. I think in the long run he will be a better player than Gorman. Arizona is a great place to hit and is home to Gorman. Perhaps he would do well there (or at least better). Would Arizona entertain that? Ask.

Melville wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:34 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:13 pm Frankly, I would entertain conversation from any team about Gorman, but with his trade value where it is, interest may be limited. Here are two teams the Cardinals should initiate a conversation with about a Gorman trade.

Athletics- I've been saying this for about 6 months now. They are really getting set up with young, dynamic position players, but lack a third baseman. They have a super-crowded outfield. Ask about right-handed hitting Colby Thomas. He plays all three OF spots, hits for power, and strikes out a bunch. He is fairly fast, and hopelessly blocked. They have another OF prospect coming along who is very similar (Henry Bolte). I can't imagine how many HR Gorman might hit playing in the minor league stadium in Sacramento. Gormans' trade value has been very similar to that of Thomas all season until he tanked in September. Ask.

Arizona Diamondbacks- Since they traded Eugenio Suarez they have had an opening to fill at 3B. They have tried prospect Jordan Lawler there, but as inconceivable as it sounds, he has been decidedly worse than Gorman. In 42 big league games he has hit .165 with 0 HR, and 5 RBI's. He has struck out at a 35% clip and mustered a .478 OPS. He is 23 years old and has played 2B, SS, and 3B. He is more athletic than Gorman, and while probably not with the same power potential, probably a more balanced hitter. Currently, Lawler's trade value sits at 0. I think in the long run he will be a better player than Gorman. Arizona is a great place to hit and is home to Gorman. Perhaps he would do well there (or at least better). Would Arizona entertain that? Ask.

Arizona has eyes on N/A.
He may not end up there, but as of today that is the most likely landing spot.
The best spot for Gorman is 3b in STL - and he fits better with STL than any other team in MLB.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:47 pm

Melville wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:34 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:13 pm Frankly, I would entertain conversation from any team about Gorman, but with his trade value where it is, interest may be limited. Here are two teams the Cardinals should initiate a conversation with about a Gorman trade.

Athletics- I've been saying this for about 6 months now. They are really getting set up with young, dynamic position players, but lack a third baseman. They have a super-crowded outfield. Ask about right-handed hitting Colby Thomas. He plays all three OF spots, hits for power, and strikes out a bunch. He is fairly fast, and hopelessly blocked. They have another OF prospect coming along who is very similar (Henry Bolte). I can't imagine how many HR Gorman might hit playing in the minor league stadium in Sacramento. Gormans' trade value has been very similar to that of Thomas all season until he tanked in September. Ask.

Arizona Diamondbacks- Since they traded Eugenio Suarez they have had an opening to fill at 3B. They have tried prospect Jordan Lawler there, but as inconceivable as it sounds, he has been decidedly worse than Gorman. In 42 big league games he has hit .165 with 0 HR, and 5 RBI's. He has struck out at a 35% clip and mustered a .478 OPS. He is 23 years old and has played 2B, SS, and 3B. He is more athletic than Gorman, and while probably not with the same power potential, probably a more balanced hitter. Currently, Lawler's trade value sits at 0. I think in the long run he will be a better player than Gorman. Arizona is a great place to hit and is home to Gorman. Perhaps he would do well there (or at least better). Would Arizona entertain that? Ask.

Arizona has eyes on N/A.
He may not end up there, but as of today that is the most likely landing spot.
The best spot for Gorman is 3b in STL - and he fits better with STL than any other team in MLB.

It would be great if Arenado ends up in Arizona, though you are the only one I have heard mention it. (You, and you alone ) Either Nolan in the desert works for me. STL can't be the best spot for Gorman, but it might be the only spot.

Melville wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 19:09 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:47 pm

Melville wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:34 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:13 pm Frankly, I would entertain conversation from any team about Gorman, but with his trade value where it is, interest may be limited. Here are two teams the Cardinals should initiate a conversation with about a Gorman trade.

Athletics- I've been saying this for about 6 months now. They are really getting set up with young, dynamic position players, but lack a third baseman. They have a super-crowded outfield. Ask about right-handed hitting Colby Thomas. He plays all three OF spots, hits for power, and strikes out a bunch. He is fairly fast, and hopelessly blocked. They have another OF prospect coming along who is very similar (Henry Bolte). I can't imagine how many HR Gorman might hit playing in the minor league stadium in Sacramento. Gormans' trade value has been very similar to that of Thomas all season until he tanked in September. Ask.

Arizona Diamondbacks- Since they traded Eugenio Suarez they have had an opening to fill at 3B. They have tried prospect Jordan Lawler there, but as inconceivable as it sounds, he has been decidedly worse than Gorman. In 42 big league games he has hit .165 with 0 HR, and 5 RBI's. He has struck out at a 35% clip and mustered a .478 OPS. He is 23 years old and has played 2B, SS, and 3B. He is more athletic than Gorman, and while probably not with the same power potential, probably a more balanced hitter. Currently, Lawler's trade value sits at 0. I think in the long run he will be a better player than Gorman. Arizona is a great place to hit and is home to Gorman. Perhaps he would do well there (or at least better). Would Arizona entertain that? Ask.

Arizona has eyes on N/A.
He may not end up there, but as of today that is the most likely landing spot.
The best spot for Gorman is 3b in STL - and he fits better with STL than any other team in MLB.

It would be great if Arenado ends up in Arizona, though you are the only one I have heard mention it. (You, and you alone ) Either Nolan in the desert works for me. STL can't be the best spot for Gorman, but it might be the only spot.

It has been widely reported that AZ may seek a short term 3B with a plus glove.
They traded Suarez and want a defensive upgrade.
They tried Blaze Alexander and were not impressed.
Lawler also got a look but made 7 errors on the infield in about 100 innings - and was returned to the minors.
They are not convinced either are long term MLB infielders, and are looking for a short term 3b to give Lawler in particular more time.
They want a RH bat.
Additionally, they are known to want more RH depth at 1b.
Bottom line is they have a high-scoring offense already and are focused on run prevention through improved defense and added pitching.
N/A perfectly fits what they are looking for positionally.

Melville wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:34 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:13 pm Frankly, I would entertain conversation from any team about Gorman, but with his trade value where it is, interest may be limited. Here are two teams the Cardinals should initiate a conversation with about a Gorman trade.

Athletics- I've been saying this for about 6 months now. They are really getting set up with young, dynamic position players, but lack a third baseman. They have a super-crowded outfield. Ask about right-handed hitting Colby Thomas. He plays all three OF spots, hits for power, and strikes out a bunch. He is fairly fast, and hopelessly blocked. They have another OF prospect coming along who is very similar (Henry Bolte). I can't imagine how many HR Gorman might hit playing in the minor league stadium in Sacramento. Gormans' trade value has been very similar to that of Thomas all season until he tanked in September. Ask.

Arizona Diamondbacks- Since they traded Eugenio Suarez they have had an opening to fill at 3B. They have tried prospect Jordan Lawler there, but as inconceivable as it sounds, he has been decidedly worse than Gorman. In 42 big league games he has hit .165 with 0 HR, and 5 RBI's. He has struck out at a 35% clip and mustered a .478 OPS. He is 23 years old and has played 2B, SS, and 3B. He is more athletic than Gorman, and while probably not with the same power potential, probably a more balanced hitter. Currently, Lawler's trade value sits at 0. I think in the long run he will be a better player than Gorman. Arizona is a great place to hit and is home to Gorman. Perhaps he would do well there (or at least better). Would Arizona entertain that? Ask.

Arizona has eyes on N/A.
He may not end up there, but as of today that is the most likely landing spot.
The best spot for Gorman is 3b in STL - and he fits better with STL than any other team in MLB.

makesnosense wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 06:53 am

Melville wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:34 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:13 pm Frankly, I would entertain conversation from any team about Gorman, but with his trade value where it is, interest may be limited. Here are two teams the Cardinals should initiate a conversation with about a Gorman trade.

Athletics- I've been saying this for about 6 months now. They are really getting set up with young, dynamic position players, but lack a third baseman. They have a super-crowded outfield. Ask about right-handed hitting Colby Thomas. He plays all three OF spots, hits for power, and strikes out a bunch. He is fairly fast, and hopelessly blocked. They have another OF prospect coming along who is very similar (Henry Bolte). I can't imagine how many HR Gorman might hit playing in the minor league stadium in Sacramento. Gormans' trade value has been very similar to that of Thomas all season until he tanked in September. Ask.

Arizona Diamondbacks- Since they traded Eugenio Suarez they have had an opening to fill at 3B. They have tried prospect Jordan Lawler there, but as inconceivable as it sounds, he has been decidedly worse than Gorman. In 42 big league games he has hit .165 with 0 HR, and 5 RBI's. He has struck out at a 35% clip and mustered a .478 OPS. He is 23 years old and has played 2B, SS, and 3B. He is more athletic than Gorman, and while probably not with the same power potential, probably a more balanced hitter. Currently, Lawler's trade value sits at 0. I think in the long run he will be a better player than Gorman. Arizona is a great place to hit and is home to Gorman. Perhaps he would do well there (or at least better). Would Arizona entertain that? Ask.

Arizona has eyes on N/A.
He may not end up there, but as of today that is the most likely landing spot.
The best spot for Gorman is 3b in STL - and he fits better with STL than any other team in MLB.

STL is a fit if mediocrity and AAA talent is your desire.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 07:06 am

makesnosense wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 06:53 am

Melville wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:34 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:13 pm Frankly, I would entertain conversation from any team about Gorman, but with his trade value where it is, interest may be limited. Here are two teams the Cardinals should initiate a conversation with about a Gorman trade.

Athletics- I've been saying this for about 6 months now. They are really getting set up with young, dynamic position players, but lack a third baseman. They have a super-crowded outfield. Ask about right-handed hitting Colby Thomas. He plays all three OF spots, hits for power, and strikes out a bunch. He is fairly fast, and hopelessly blocked. They have another OF prospect coming along who is very similar (Henry Bolte). I can't imagine how many HR Gorman might hit playing in the minor league stadium in Sacramento. Gormans' trade value has been very similar to that of Thomas all season until he tanked in September. Ask.

Arizona Diamondbacks- Since they traded Eugenio Suarez they have had an opening to fill at 3B. They have tried prospect Jordan Lawler there, but as inconceivable as it sounds, he has been decidedly worse than Gorman. In 42 big league games he has hit .165 with 0 HR, and 5 RBI's. He has struck out at a 35% clip and mustered a .478 OPS. He is 23 years old and has played 2B, SS, and 3B. He is more athletic than Gorman, and while probably not with the same power potential, probably a more balanced hitter. Currently, Lawler's trade value sits at 0. I think in the long run he will be a better player than Gorman. Arizona is a great place to hit and is home to Gorman. Perhaps he would do well there (or at least better). Would Arizona entertain that? Ask.

Arizona has eyes on N/A.
He may not end up there, but as of today that is the most likely landing spot.
The best spot for Gorman is 3b in STL - and he fits better with STL than any other team in MLB.

STL is a fit if mediocrity and AAA talent is your desire.

If you have way to make Gorman a productive major leaguer, or can swap him for someone who is- I'm all about it.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 08:55 am Of the two 'Zona would make the most sense for Gorman.

But honestly if both NADO & Donny are gone (JJW is going to be at 2nd base), then I firmly believe Norman will be at 3rd base.

As for NADO, watchout for the Phillies who I think will trade away Bohm and then make a move for NADO (with BDWJr eating $15-20M for a couple of lotto tickets).

Melville wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 09:11 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 08:55 am Of the two 'Zona would make the most sense for Gorman.

But honestly if both NADO & Donny are gone (JJW is going to be at 2nd base), then I firmly believe Norman will be at 3rd base.

As for NADO, watchout for the Phillies who I think will trade away Bohm and then make a move for NADO (with BDWJr eating $15-20M for a couple of lotto tickets).

Wetherholt at 2b, Gorman at 3b is indeed the best option STL currently has.
Donovan should be moved to LF (and serve as infield insurance).
Mootbaar should be traded (as I alone correctly understood and advised for the past 4 years), and Walker should be shoppe das well.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Melville wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:34 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:13 pm Frankly, I would entertain conversation from any team about Gorman, but with his trade value where it is, interest may be limited. Here are two teams the Cardinals should initiate a conversation with about a Gorman trade.

Athletics- I've been saying this for about 6 months now. They are really getting set up with young, dynamic position players, but lack a third baseman. They have a super-crowded outfield. Ask about right-handed hitting Colby Thomas. He plays all three OF spots, hits for power, and strikes out a bunch. He is fairly fast, and hopelessly blocked. They have another OF prospect coming along who is very similar (Henry Bolte). I can't imagine how many HR Gorman might hit playing in the minor league stadium in Sacramento. Gormans' trade value has been very similar to that of Thomas all season until he tanked in September. Ask.

Arizona Diamondbacks- Since they traded Eugenio Suarez they have had an opening to fill at 3B. They have tried prospect Jordan Lawler there, but as inconceivable as it sounds, he has been decidedly worse than Gorman. In 42 big league games he has hit .165 with 0 HR, and 5 RBI's. He has struck out at a 35% clip and mustered a .478 OPS. He is 23 years old and has played 2B, SS, and 3B. He is more athletic than Gorman, and while probably not with the same power potential, probably a more balanced hitter. Currently, Lawler's trade value sits at 0. I think in the long run he will be a better player than Gorman. Arizona is a great place to hit and is home to Gorman. Perhaps he would do well there (or at least better). Would Arizona entertain that? Ask.

Arizona has eyes on N/A.
He may not end up there, but as of today that is the most likely landing spot.
The best spot for Gorman is 3b in STL - and he fits better with STL than any other team in MLB.

Melville wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:34 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:13 pm Frankly, I would entertain conversation from any team about Gorman, but with his trade value where it is, interest may be limited. Here are two teams the Cardinals should initiate a conversation with about a Gorman trade.

Athletics- I've been saying this for about 6 months now. They are really getting set up with young, dynamic position players, but lack a third baseman. They have a super-crowded outfield. Ask about right-handed hitting Colby Thomas. He plays all three OF spots, hits for power, and strikes out a bunch. He is fairly fast, and hopelessly blocked. They have another OF prospect coming along who is very similar (Henry Bolte). I can't imagine how many HR Gorman might hit playing in the minor league stadium in Sacramento. Gormans' trade value has been very similar to that of Thomas all season until he tanked in September. Ask.

Arizona Diamondbacks- Since they traded Eugenio Suarez they have had an opening to fill at 3B. They have tried prospect Jordan Lawler there, but as inconceivable as it sounds, he has been decidedly worse than Gorman. In 42 big league games he has hit .165 with 0 HR, and 5 RBI's. He has struck out at a 35% clip and mustered a .478 OPS. He is 23 years old and has played 2B, SS, and 3B. He is more athletic than Gorman, and while probably not with the same power potential, probably a more balanced hitter. Currently, Lawler's trade value sits at 0. I think in the long run he will be a better player than Gorman. Arizona is a great place to hit and is home to Gorman. Perhaps he would do well there (or at least better). Would Arizona entertain that? Ask.

Arizona has eyes on N/A.
He may not end up there, but as of today that is the most likely landing spot.
The best spot for Gorman is 3b in STL - and he fits better with STL than any other team in MLB.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025 09:16 am

Melville wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:34 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑05 Nov 2025 18:13 pm Frankly, I would entertain conversation from any team about Gorman, but with his trade value where it is, interest may be limited. Here are two teams the Cardinals should initiate a conversation with about a Gorman trade.

Athletics- I've been saying this for about 6 months now. They are really getting set up with young, dynamic position players, but lack a third baseman. They have a super-crowded outfield. Ask about right-handed hitting Colby Thomas. He plays all three OF spots, hits for power, and strikes out a bunch. He is fairly fast, and hopelessly blocked. They have another OF prospect coming along who is very similar (Henry Bolte). I can't imagine how many HR Gorman might hit playing in the minor league stadium in Sacramento. Gormans' trade value has been very similar to that of Thomas all season until he tanked in September. Ask.

Arizona Diamondbacks- Since they traded Eugenio Suarez they have had an opening to fill at 3B. They have tried prospect Jordan Lawler there, but as inconceivable as it sounds, he has been decidedly worse than Gorman. In 42 big league games he has hit .165 with 0 HR, and 5 RBI's. He has struck out at a 35% clip and mustered a .478 OPS. He is 23 years old and has played 2B, SS, and 3B. He is more athletic than Gorman, and while probably not with the same power potential, probably a more balanced hitter. Currently, Lawler's trade value sits at 0. I think in the long run he will be a better player than Gorman. Arizona is a great place to hit and is home to Gorman. Perhaps he would do well there (or at least better). Would Arizona entertain that? Ask.

Arizona has eyes on N/A.
He may not end up there, but as of today that is the most likely landing spot.
The best spot for Gorman is 3b in STL - and he fits better with STL than any other team in MLB.

What a horrible idea.