Freddie Freeman

[OldRed]

Hall of Fame?

Freeman:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... fr01.shtml

Gil Hodges:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... gi01.shtml

[jcgmoi]

Hall of Fame?

All day. In addition to his considerable counting stats and durability he's posted excellent post-season numbers, plus he might be the best liked MLB player going.

Looking further down his bbref page, I see Hodges isn't in his top 10 comps, which has ex-Cards Paul Goldschmidt, Will Clark, and Matt Holliday in the top 5.

[rockondlouie]

Yes, both of these:

Freeman
367 HR
1322 RBI
2431 Hits
.300 .386 .511 .897
9 time all star
MVP (seven top 10 finishes)
1 Gold Glove
3 Silver Sluggers
64.8 fWAR
141 wRC+

Goldy
372 HR
1232 RBI
2190 Hits
.288 .378 .504 .882
7 time all star
MVP (six top 10 finishes)
4 Gold Gloves
5 Silver Sluggers
57.3 fWAR
142 wRC+

Freddie gets in the Hall before Goldy but both (IMO) get in.

[ShakeyWalton]

Hall of Fame?

Freeman:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... fr01.shtml

Gil Hodges:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... gi01.shtml

Jesus, how old are you? Gil Hodges of all people comes to mind in comparison?? The guy has been dead for well over 50 freaking years.

[C-Unit]

He's a no-doubter at this point for me. He's got the longevity, the consistency, an MVP, the type of fanfare the voters seem to approve of, and the postseason moments in two places that only bolster his resume.

The interesting comparison is Freeman and Goldschmidt. My long-time impression was that they were neck-and-neck as far as the 1st base class. Both probably appeared to be having borderline HOF careers. My impression at this point is that Freeman has separated himself. However, when I go check the numbers are closer than I would have thought.

Freeman: born 9/89 (36 y/o), current service time 14.033
- 64.2 bWar, 64.8 fWar, .897 OPS, 142 OPS+, 547 2B, 367 HR, 1322 RBI

Goldschmidt: born 9/87 (38 y/o), current service time 13.059
- 63.8 bWar, 57.3 fWar, .882 OPS, 137 OPS+, 477 2B, 372 HR, 1232 RBI

So, they are pretty close indeed, with Goldschmidt being pretty close across the board. However, I think the kicker is Freeman being two years younger and still appearing to be in his prime... while Goldschmidt is at the point of playing year-by-year at this point, if not just retiring all together.

I think Freeman when it's said and done will be a slam dunk candidate with 400+ HR, and Goldschmidt will still be borderline.

[russellhammond]

He's going to end his career with 3,000 hits....no brainer.

[bluetunehead]

He's a no-doubter at this point for me. He's got the longevity, the consistency, an MVP, the type of fanfare the voters seem to approve of, and the postseason moments in two places that only bolster his resume.

The interesting comparison is Freeman and Goldschmidt. My long-time impression was that they were neck-and-neck as far as the 1st base class. Both probably appeared to be having borderline HOF careers. My impression at this point is that Freeman has separated himself. However, when I go check the numbers are closer than I would have thought.

Freeman: born 9/89 (36 y/o), current service time 14.033
- 64.2 bWar, 64.8 fWar, .897 OPS, 142 OPS+, 547 2B, 367 HR, 1322 RBI

Goldschmidt: born 9/87 (38 y/o), current service time 13.059
- 63.8 bWar, 57.3 fWar, .882 OPS, 137 OPS+, 477 2B, 372 HR, 1232 RBI

So, they are pretty close indeed, with Goldschmidt being pretty close across the board. However, I think the kicker is Freeman being two years younger and still appearing to be in his prime... while Goldschmidt is at the point of playing year-by-year at this point, if not just retiring all together.

I think Freeman when it's said and done will be a slam dunk candidate with 400+ HR, and Goldschmidt will still be borderline.

I think that's where I'm at. Goldy is Hall of Very Good IMO and certainly worth a discussion, but Freeman gets in no question if he just stays healthy for another couple seasons.

[An Old Friend]

Yes, both of these:

Freeman
367 HR
1322 RBI
2431 Hits
.300 .386 .511 .897
9 time all star
MVP (seven top 10 finishes)
1 Gold Glove
3 Silver Sluggers
64.8 fWAR
141 wRC+

Goldy
372 HR
1232 RBI
2190 Hits
.288 .378 .504 .882
7 time all star
MVP (six top 10 finishes)
4 Gold Gloves
5 Silver Sluggers
57.3 fWAR
142 wRC+

Freddie gets in the Hall before Goldy but both (IMO) get in.

Yes on Freeman, and he’s headed towards 1st ballot enshrinement. 2 years left on his contract so should be over 400 HR and 2700 hits at that point with multiple titles.

I think Goldschmidt is out of gas and comes up short.

[Adam2]

Yes.

Gil Hodges faced electricians and plumbers. I'm surprised this is even a thread

[Midrange Jay]

White Rod Carew

[ShakeyWalton]

Yes.

Gil Hodges faced electricians and plumbers. I'm surprised this is even a thread

Yes, but how does Freeman compare to Del Ennis?

[woofy25]

Yes, both of these:

Freeman
367 HR
1322 RBI
2431 Hits
.300 .386 .511 .897
9 time all star
MVP (seven top 10 finishes)
1 Gold Glove
3 Silver Sluggers
64.8 fWAR
141 wRC+

Goldy
372 HR
1232 RBI
2190 Hits
.288 .378 .504 .882
7 time all star
MVP (six top 10 finishes)
4 Gold Gloves
5 Silver Sluggers
57.3 fWAR
142 wRC+

Freddie gets in the Hall before Goldy but both (IMO) get in.

Yes on Freeman, and he’s headed towards 1st ballot enshrinement. 2 years left on his contract so should be over 400 HR and 2700 hits at that point with multiple titles.

I think Goldschmidt is out of gas and comes up short.

Same

[sdaltons]

Where's RBC to tell us he's juicing? Or does that not apply to Dodgers?

[OldRed]

Hall of Fame?

Freeman:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... fr01.shtml

Gil Hodges:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... gi01.shtml

Jesus, how old are you? Gil Hodges of all people comes to mind in comparison?? The guy has been dead for well over 50 freaking years.

By that, I guess I'm older than you.

[ecleme22]

FF is first ballot.

[Goldfan]

Yes, both of these:

Freeman
367 HR
1322 RBI
2431 Hits
.300 .386 .511 .897
9 time all star
MVP (seven top 10 finishes)
1 Gold Glove
3 Silver Sluggers
64.8 fWAR
141 wRC+

Goldy
372 HR
1232 RBI
2190 Hits
.288 .378 .504 .882
7 time all star
MVP (six top 10 finishes)
4 Gold Gloves
5 Silver Sluggers
57.3 fWAR
142 wRC+

Freddie gets in the Hall before Goldy but both (IMO) get in.

Yes on Freeman, and he’s headed towards 1st ballot enshrinement. 2 years left on his contract so should be over 400 HR and 2700 hits at that point with multiple titles.

I think Goldschmidt is out of gas and comes up short.

Agreed. Freeman still has hits and HR in that bat. If he sticks with LA perhaps more WS lure…..
As we were able to watch Goldy closely here…..He’s not in Freeman’s class. He would go weeks in an ice cold slump when the team needed him and his leadership/PS qualities falls short of Freeman.