Blues goaltenders sinking the team

[Harry S Deals]

Some really odd stats so far that i have seen after last night

Blues have allowed 3rd fewest Shots Against
Blues have allowed the fewest Scoring Chances Against
Blues have allowed the 4th fewest High Danger Chances Against

Blues have allowed the 2nd MOST High Danger Goals Against
Blues have the worst Save Pct in the NHL
Blues have the works HIgh Danger Save Pct in the NHL

Sure we have seen some tap ins not the goalers fault the forwards have some blame here but not a lot. This is really, really bad goaltending. These numbers indicate a team concept that has been fairly stingy however the shots they are giving up are going in at a high rate, like way off career typical performance.
This gives me a little confidence because one would think that the goaltenders will find their footing at some point and the Blues should be in a lot of closer games

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/teamtable.php

[blues2112]

Of the six goals last night, which do you fault Hofer?

To me, the only one (maybe) was Wotherspoon's, and even that was a heck of a shot.

The others were Rush from point blank with a head of steam; tap-in far side; slot deflections; Crosby 100-foot breakaway (and rebound); ENG.

[bluetunehead]

Of the six goals last night, which do you fault Hofer?

To me, the only one (maybe) was Wotherspoon's, and even that was a heck of a shot.

The others were Rush from point blank with a head of steam; tap-in far side; slot deflections; Crosby 100-foot breakaway (and rebound); ENG.

Yeah last night was less about blatantly poor play and more just needing your goalie to make the big save. We just haven’t had much of that this year, but the only goals where he had a chance were Rust and Wotherspoon and both were just terrific shots.

[Harry S Deals]

Of the six goals last night, which do you fault Hofer?

To me, the only one (maybe) was Wotherspoon's, and even that was a heck of a shot.

The others were Rush from point blank with a head of steam; tap-in far side; slot deflections; Crosby 100-foot breakaway (and rebound); ENG.

Honestly yea the Wotherspoon and the breakaway were stoppable but the puck bounces off Hofer vs stopped.

Like i said the forwards/D corp have certainly had some missteps but the overall #s point to really bad goaltending which is also confirmed by the eye test. Pucks seem to get behind Hofer very easily and Binnie hasnt been much better

[Frank Underwood]

Maybe I’m being overly philosophical, but I’d rather have the goalies suck now and not in April/May. But enough is enough, time to pull out of the funk.

[Harry S Deals]

Maybe I’m being overly philosophical, but I’d rather have the goalies suck now and not in April/May. But enough is enough, time to pull out of the funk.

Really. Did not see the goaltending issue coming also Holloway, Fowler, Buch, all disappointing so far

[The Average Gatsby]

Binnington is rocking a 872 save percentage and Hofer is 793. Obviously there have been defensive breakdowns but you simply can’t win games with goaltending like this. Especially when the other team always beats Hofer multiple times on their first 5 or so shots.

[Frank Underwood]

Maybe I’m being overly philosophical, but I’d rather have the goalies suck now and not in April/May. But enough is enough, time to pull out of the funk.

Really. Did not see the goaltending issue coming also Holloway, Fowler, Buch, all disappointing so far

Absolutely. Just a lot of stuff out of sync at this point. The team will come around, but you just don’t want them to get buried if this drags on for another month or more. But it is a very long season….

[DawgDad]

I see a cause for optimism there. These goaltenders have a track record, they may self-correct and that could be as sudden as this slump.

I also know goaltending is not the whole story. Key individuals and team aspects of the offense are slumping badly. The stats support the notion the Blues are currently plagued with egregious mistakes and turnovers, the kind that lead to very high percentage scoring chances like an open uncontested look for a top sniper, a tip-in from the goal line, and a clear breakaway by a guy with 1700 career points.

The team needs to keep playing hard, with structure. Bite the bullet and be patient while guys work out their individual issues and regain trust.

[Old_Goat]

I see a cause for optimism there. These goaltenders have a track record, they may self-correct and that could be as sudden as this slump.

I also know goaltending is not the whole story. Key individuals and team aspects of the offense are slumping badly. The stats support the notion the Blues are currently plagued with egregious mistakes and turnovers, the kind that lead to very high percentage scoring chances like an open uncontested look for a top sniper, a tip-in from the goal line, and a clear breakaway by a guy with 1700 career points.

The team needs to keep playing hard, with structure. Bite the bullet and be patient while guys work out their individual issues and regain trust.

Concur.
And those stats presented at the OP are confirming. Obviously some valid points, considerations and comments about the rest of the players up front have been posted on all of this Forum's threads since the opening game. Fix the glaring 6' wide by 4' high hole and it will come together.
On another note -- the latest hate & pile-on target played okay last night. He actually has not looked out of place in the last two games that he has played.

[blues2112]

Binnington had no chance on any of those goals.

Some bad luck (goal off Faulk), two nice deflections by DeadWings and failure of D-zone coverage.

[Cahokanut]

Anyone with any amount of intelligence would of told you We go as far as our goaltending takes us. Those that believe and cling to what they heard on 101 or what army said. Would call that hockey dumb and then go off on whoever posted it(it was me)

[LGB73]

I see a cause for optimism there. These goaltenders have a track record, they may self-correct and that could be as sudden as this slump.

I also know goaltending is not the whole story. Key individuals and team aspects of the offense are slumping badly. The stats support the notion the Blues are currently plagued with egregious mistakes and turnovers, the kind that lead to very high percentage scoring chances like an open uncontested look for a top sniper, a tip-in from the goal line, and a clear breakaway by a guy with 1700 career points.

The team needs to keep playing hard, with structure. Bite the bullet and be patient while guys work out their individual issues and regain trust.

I agree that if the goaltending turns around we'll get back to .500 hockey. It will take more improvement to get to a playoff team.

My biggest issue is that these pathetic turnovers are a constant issue year in and year out. Thats not a coach or gm issue, thats a player issue of wanting to play cute and not smart.

[bud white]

I see a cause for optimism there. These goaltenders have a track record, they may self-correct and that could be as sudden as this slump.

I also know goaltending is not the whole story. Key individuals and team aspects of the offense are slumping badly. The stats support the notion the Blues are currently plagued with egregious mistakes and turnovers, the kind that lead to very high percentage scoring chances like an open uncontested look for a top sniper, a tip-in from the goal line, and a clear breakaway by a guy with 1700 career points.

The team needs to keep playing hard, with structure. Bite the bullet and be patient while guys work out their individual issues and regain trust.

I agree that if the goaltending turns around we'll get back to .500 hockey. It will take more improvement to get to a playoff team.

My biggest issue is that these pathetic turnovers are a constant issue year in and year out. Thats not a coach or gm issue, thats a player issue of wanting to play cute and not smart.

The goaltneding won't get "fixed" until the turnovers and basic coverage issues are addressed. And before folks start harping on Mailloux for that net front goal - it was Walker who left his man alone in front. You have to be fully aware of your surroundings.

[smilinjoefission]

Goaltending, defense, team defense, offense, leadership, horrid GM,...take your pick, Blues have so many issues they are exactly where they are because of them.

[succinct712]

Montgomery said in the post game that he's never seen more deflection goals against a team he's coached. Have to control opposition sticks better.

https://www.nhl.com/blues/video/postgam ... 4224913112