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Do you know what Haglunds deformity is?Bully4you wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 03:12 am Saw that he had surgery on both heels?
Both feet?
Crazy.
So, he may be untradable at this point.
The hits just keep coming, I tell ya!!
https://www.bnd.com/sports/mlb/st-louis ... 76147.html
seems he played 135 games last year. More than WinnNope, never heard of Haglunds.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 07:33 amDo you know what Haglunds deformity is?Bully4you wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 03:12 am Saw that he had surgery on both heels?
Both feet?
Crazy.
So, he may be untradable at this point.
The hits just keep coming, I tell ya!!
https://www.bnd.com/sports/mlb/st-louis ... 76147.html
Now tell us about Donny, Herrera, Winn, KKKorn. They seem to be often injured. Any of these play more games than Snoot?
If say the Cards players, seem to all have injury concerns
ZERO chance of that happening.
If this timeline is accurate, it probably does make him untradeable this offseason. That's too bad because it sure needed to happen. You adjust, and go on. Best case scenario, he comes back sometime in the first half of the season and rebuilds some value. Who knows, we may get more for him if that scenario plays out than if he was traded now.rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 09:03 amZERO chance of that happening.
And yes bully, he's definitely still got trade value but it definitely lowers it.
6-12 months:
Full recovery, with possible return to high-impact sports
-Cleveland Clinic
Given Noots age and being a well conditioned athlete, I'd put it closer to the 6 months.
Hopefully he's ready for a rehab assignment in April.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 11:59 amIf this timeline is accurate, it probably does make him untradeable this offseason. That's too bad because it sure needed to happen. You adjust, and go on. Best case scenario, he comes back sometime in the first half of the season and rebuilds some value. Who knows, we may get more for him if that scenario plays out than if he was traded now.rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 09:03 amZERO chance of that happening.
And yes bully, he's definitely still got trade value but it definitely lowers it.
6-12 months:
Full recovery, with possible return to high-impact sports
-Cleveland Clinic
Given Noots age and being a well conditioned athlete, I'd put it closer to the 6 months.
If the timeline is accurate why did the Cardinals wait until after the season for Noot to have surgery? If the Cardinals think that it will be a year before he recovers then I think you have to consider non-tendering him. I believe that he only has 2 seasons left before he is a free agent. I don't see the Cardinals extending him and I don't see the Cardinals paying for 2 years of Noot if they are only going to get 1 season out of him.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 11:59 amIf this timeline is accurate, it probably does make him untradeable this offseason. That's too bad because it sure needed to happen. You adjust, and go on. Best case scenario, he comes back sometime in the first half of the season and rebuilds some value. Who knows, we may get more for him if that scenario plays out than if he was traded now.rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 09:03 amZERO chance of that happening.
And yes bully, he's definitely still got trade value but it definitely lowers it.
6-12 months:
Full recovery, with possible return to high-impact sports
-Cleveland Clinic
Given Noots age and being a well conditioned athlete, I'd put it closer to the 6 months.
If Nootbaar had this condition and the Cardinals knew it, why was he playing the last weekend in Chicago? And if the medical staff didn't know it, that's another issue. This franchise has a sordid history of dealing with medical issues.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 07:33 amDo you know what Haglunds deformity is?Bully4you wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 03:12 am Saw that he had surgery on both heels?
Both feet?
Crazy.
So, he may be untradable at this point.
The hits just keep coming, I tell ya!!
https://www.bnd.com/sports/mlb/st-louis ... 76147.html
Now tell us about Donny, Herrera, Winn, KKKorn. They seem to be often injured. Any of these play more games than Snoot?
If say the Cards players, seem to all have injury concerns
Not all bumps are the same.KeeptheRamsinSTL wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 13:27 pmIf the timeline is accurate why did the Cardinals wait until after the season for Noot to have surgery? If the Cardinals think that it will be a year before he recovers then I think you have to consider non-tendering him. I believe that he only has 2 seasons left before he is a free agent. I don't see the Cardinals extending him and I don't see the Cardinals paying for 2 years of Noot if they are only going to get 1 season out of him.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 11:59 amIf this timeline is accurate, it probably does make him untradeable this offseason. That's too bad because it sure needed to happen. You adjust, and go on. Best case scenario, he comes back sometime in the first half of the season and rebuilds some value. Who knows, we may get more for him if that scenario plays out than if he was traded now.rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 09:03 amZERO chance of that happening.
And yes bully, he's definitely still got trade value but it definitely lowers it.
6-12 months:
Full recovery, with possible return to high-impact sports
-Cleveland Clinic
Given Noots age and being a well conditioned athlete, I'd put it closer to the 6 months.
This is from AI -
Recovery after Haglund's surgery is challenging for professional athletes, with a mean return-to-competition (RTC) time of over seven months. Studies show that only about 60–76% of athletes successfully return to their sport, and performance may be affected, particularly in high-impact sports. The outcome can vary significantly depending on the athlete's specific condition, the surgical technique used, and the rigor of their rehabilitation.
Return-to-play rates and timelines
Variable return rates: While some studies show encouraging outcomes, overall return-to-play rates for professional athletes after Haglund's surgery are not guaranteed. A 2021 study involving professional athletes with Haglund's deformity reported that only 60% of participants returned to their sports activity and played for at least two full seasons.
Long recovery period: For those who do return, the recovery period is significant. A 2021 study showed a mean RTC time of 7.45 months, but with a wide range from 4 to 18 months. Another resource suggests it can take 9 to 12 months for a full return to sport, emphasizing that not all athletes return to their prior performance level.