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Posted: **20 Oct 2025 12:22 pm**

If so, couldn't he, possibly, bring back a needed decent starting pitcher?

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 12:28 pm**

Is there a Link or is this more made up nonsense?

I'm leaning toward the latter because you always overvalue every player and their possible return. I applaud you for your restraint this time....you only expect one decent starting pitcher in return...instead of the customary 2 Front of the rotation starters.

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 12:30 pm**

I thought that was brought out a few weeks ago from statements he made.

Trade value? I’m not able to comment but freeing up his contract $’s and opening up position on the infield are worth a lot.

He is one of my favorites and I hate to see him go. But he deserves a better opportunity.

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 12:40 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 12:22 pm If so, couldn't he, possibly, bring back a needed decent starting pitcher?

Link?

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 12:43 pm**

“If something comes up to [president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom] that makes a lot of sense for him and the organization, and it makes sense for me and my future, how about we talk about that?” Contreras said. “But as of right now, I would just like to be part of the [rebuilding] process.”

Sorry shady but he's going to be the starting 1st baseman (and blocking you-know-who) unless Bloom is overwhelmed a/an offer.

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 13:28 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 12:22 pm If so, couldn't he, possibly, bring back a needed decent starting pitcher?

As usual, the forum was noticeably better while you were gone last week.

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 13:29 pm**

rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 12:43 pm “If something comes up to [president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom] that makes a lot of sense for him and the organization, and it makes sense for me and my future, how about we talk about that?” Contreras said. “But as of right now, I would just like to be part of the [rebuilding] process.”

Sorry shady but he's going to be the starting 1st baseman (and blocking you-know-who) unless Bloom is overwhelmed a/an offer.

I sort of read the statement differently. Appears door is more open than earlier in season.

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 13:33 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 12:22 pm If so, couldn't he, possibly, bring back a needed decent starting pitcher?

Per BTV:
Willson Contreras: -11.9

Please name some specific “decent starting pitchers” the Cardinals could obtain for the remainder of Contreras’s contract.

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 13:44 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 12:22 pm If so, couldn't he, possibly, bring back a needed decent starting pitcher?

If WC is traded, the play should one of two things:
1. Getting the best prospect/young player possible.
2. Vet starting pitcher who can cover innings.

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 13:52 pm**

ecleme22 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 13:44 pm
Shady wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 12:22 pm If so, couldn't he, possibly, bring back a needed decent starting pitcher?
If WC is traded, the play should one of two things:
1. Getting the best prospect/young player possible.
2. Vet starting pitcher who can cover innings.

"Vet starting pitcher who can cover innings". A veteran pitcher at close to Contreras' salary makes sense. That might bring a #3 type starting pitcher. It's about finding matching needs.

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 14:05 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 13:52 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 13:44 pm
Shady wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 12:22 pm If so, couldn't he, possibly, bring back a needed decent starting pitcher?
If WC is traded, the play should one of two things:
1. Getting the best prospect/young player possible.
2. Vet starting pitcher who can cover innings.
"Vet starting pitcher who can cover innings". A veteran pitcher at close to Contreras' salary makes sense. That might bring a #3 type starting pitcher. It's about finding matching needs.

Then by all means, pls feel free to give us some names, “GURU”:

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 13:33 pm Per BTV:
Willson Contreras: -11.9

Please name some specific “decent starting pitchers” the Cardinals could obtain for the remainder of Contreras’s contract.

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 14:08 pm**

Jatalk wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 13:29 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 12:43 pm “If something comes up to [president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom] that makes a lot of sense for him and the organization, and it makes sense for me and my future, how about we talk about that?” Contreras said. “But as of right now, I would just like to be part of the [rebuilding] process.”

Sorry shady but he's going to be the starting 1st baseman (and blocking you-know-who) unless Bloom is overwhelmed a/an offer.
I sort of read the statement differently. Appears door is more open than earlier in season.

I think he'd "listen" but doesn't seem like he's itching to get out like NADO.

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 14:37 pm**

craviduce wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 12:28 pm Is there a Link or is this more made up nonsense?

I'm leaning toward the latter because you always overvalue every player and their possible return. I applaud you for your restraint this time....you only expect one decent starting pitcher in return...instead of the customary 2 Front of the rotation starters.

Wonder if Shady would accept Snell and Yamamoto plus a player to be named later

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 14:44 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 12:22 pm If so, couldn't he, possibly, bring back a needed decent starting pitcher?

No (bleep)

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 14:59 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 13:52 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 13:44 pm
Shady wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 12:22 pm If so, couldn't he, possibly, bring back a needed decent starting pitcher?
If WC is traded, the play should one of two things:
1. Getting the best prospect/young player possible.
2. Vet starting pitcher who can cover innings.
"Vet starting pitcher who can cover innings". A veteran pitcher at close to Contreras' salary makes sense. That might bring a #3 type starting pitcher. It's about finding matching needs.

Contreras absolutely could not bring back a 3. come on man

Posted: **20 Oct 2025 15:20 pm**

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 13:33 pm
Shady wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025 12:22 pm If so, couldn't he, possibly, bring back a needed decent starting pitcher?
Per BTV:
Willson Contreras: -11.9

Please name some specific “decent starting pitchers” the Cardinals could obtain for the remainder of Contreras’s contract.

Seems low doesn't it?

Especially if a team see's him as a 1B/C.

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