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Harry S Deals
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Lets try to project next seasons Blues salary committments

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This may be more fun than groaning on about the Blues 6th defenseman and we can see perhaps what flexibility the Blues may have next Summer

According to puckpedia the Blues should have $32,3 ish million in cap space this includes Krugs $6,5 salary but im always a little unsure how exactly that works ($25, million in actual space, Krugs last year of his deal is $6.5)

Next season;

Joseph UFA (replaced by prospect S900K, or retained cheaply)
Holloway RFA ( 8 years $8 million is totally a guess, what if he takes a dump this season)
Texier RFA (replaced by prospect S900K)
Torpo UFA (resigned for $2 million)
Sunny UFA (hard to say, can Sunny even play a full season, retained, replaced, or other UFA signing)

Broberg RFA (8 years $7 million)
Mailloux RFA (3 years $3 million)
Kessel UFA Group 6 (not likely replaced internally, resigned or UFA)

Blues have a little work to do as we can see.

So the $32 ish million in space is eaten up by half with Holloway and Brobie. The bolded players are the ones i can foresee being gone at or before next season. All of the applicable young guys are RFAs in '28-'29 at about $900k.

Likely candidates to be on the Blues roster next season are

Stenberg
Dvorsky

What are your thoughts?
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Lane Hutson just received a 8 x 8.85m contract - Broberg will get something similar and Holloway will get something even larger.
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The Athletic just did a piece on the RFA extensions for STL:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/670699 ... ojections/

In short, JR predicted roughly 8x8 for both.

Contract projection was from AFP Analytics, with Dom's model used to calculate market value.

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Army's Mom wrote: 13 Oct 2025 10:57 am The Athletic just did a piece on the RFA extensions for STL:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/670699 ... ojections/

In short, JR predicted roughly 8x8 for both.

Contract projection was from AFP Analytics, with Dom's model used to calculate market value.

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Getting Holloway signed long term at 7.3 and Broberg at 6.7 would both be steals. Here’s hoping.
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I think you see both signed at an 8x8 or if they wait to try test RFA, a 7x8. Yes, if UFA, these guys would get the 11 and 10 million easy on the open market. However, they are RFA's. A team would have to cough up 4 1st round picks potentially just to sign 1 of these guys. No team in their right mind should do that, and if they did, we let them take them all day. Imagine having 10 first round picks over the next 4 seasons. You call up Dvorsky, Carbs, and Stenberg to replace Holloway, Sunny, and Joseph. You call up Jiricek or Lindstein to replace Broberg. It may set you back in cup competing for a year or so, but you are then set up for a decade plus with those 10 first round picks, plus have crazy trade assets and cap room. It is a win win situation. We really don't have to worry either way on how it plays out as we win in either scenario. My guess is, they like it here. They see there just isn't a way they get that outrageous money as RFAs, and they sign here at the 8x8.
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Lane Hutson at 8 x $8.85 is surprisingly low--if that's the standard (which it's not), then Broberg is probably looking at 8 x $7.5m or something.
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BalotelliMassive wrote: 13 Oct 2025 10:50 am Lane Hutson just received a 8 x 8.85m contract - Broberg will get something similar and Holloway will get something even larger.
In no way should Broberg pull what Hutson does. That said, I would’ve expected a bit higher number for Hutson.

Holloway is the one I expect to be more expensive.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 13 Oct 2025 12:05 pm
BalotelliMassive wrote: 13 Oct 2025 10:50 am Lane Hutson just received a 8 x 8.85m contract - Broberg will get something similar and Holloway will get something even larger.
In no way should Broberg pull what Hutson does. That said, I would’ve expected a bit higher number for Hutson.

Holloway is the one I expect to be more expensive.
MN - what do you think gets a deal done w/ Broberg? Agree with what you're saying about "nowhere close to Hutson"...my thinking was more that Hutson at $8.9m is a very team-friendly deal, and Broberg will be closer to market value, so I pulled $7.5m out of my you-know-where. Curious to hear your thoughts.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 13 Oct 2025 12:05 pm
BalotelliMassive wrote: 13 Oct 2025 10:50 am Lane Hutson just received a 8 x 8.85m contract - Broberg will get something similar and Holloway will get something even larger.
In no way should Broberg pull what Hutson does. That said, I would’ve expected a bit higher number for Hutson.

Holloway is the one I expect to be more expensive.
I don't know man...Walman is getting 7 mil per at age 29....
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sneptsmoustache wrote: 13 Oct 2025 12:11 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 13 Oct 2025 12:05 pm
BalotelliMassive wrote: 13 Oct 2025 10:50 am Lane Hutson just received a 8 x 8.85m contract - Broberg will get something similar and Holloway will get something even larger.
In no way should Broberg pull what Hutson does. That said, I would’ve expected a bit higher number for Hutson.

Holloway is the one I expect to be more expensive.
MN - what do you think gets a deal done w/ Broberg? Agree with what you're saying about "nowhere close to Hutson"...my thinking was more that Hutson at $8.9m is a very team-friendly deal, and Broberg will be closer to market value, so I pulled $7.5m out of my you-know-where. Curious to hear your thoughts.
I didn’t say he shouldn’t pull anywhere hear $8.85M; I said he shouldn’t pull more. As of today, I’d guess around $8x8 for Broberg and $9x8 for Holloway.
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Broberg & Holloway will both be getting 8.5 - 9.5

Book it!
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I am going to predict 7 million for 8 years for Broberg. Holloway, that is actually really difficult to predict. Lets see what he does this year, I genuinely think that Thomas money and term is not out of the question. Logan I think would benefit from a prove it contract so I am going to predict a bridge deal 2 million per year.
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Current trajectory I would agree with most thoughts here on both players. Holloway a tad higher than Bro. 8-9M max term.

Subject to rise or fall on this years performance.

And don't be surprised if Bro leapfrogs Dylan or pulls even this year. And btw, this would be fantastic double win if it happened.
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BalotelliMassive wrote: 13 Oct 2025 12:45 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 13 Oct 2025 12:05 pm
BalotelliMassive wrote: 13 Oct 2025 10:50 am Lane Hutson just received a 8 x 8.85m contract - Broberg will get something similar and Holloway will get something even larger.
In no way should Broberg pull what Hutson does. That said, I would’ve expected a bit higher number for Hutson.

Holloway is the one I expect to be more expensive.
I don't know man...Walman is getting 7 mil per at age 29....
My problem with that contract is the gamble on Walman producing as he recenty has in the near term to say nothing of long term.

I think the league is thinking the same I can't believe his contract is a benchmark.
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MandatoryDenial wrote: 13 Oct 2025 17:43 pm I am going to predict 7 million for 8 years for Broberg. Holloway, that is actually really difficult to predict. Lets see what he does this year, I genuinely think that Thomas money and term is not out of the question. Logan I think would benefit from a prove it contract so I am going to predict a bridge deal 2 million per year.
He's gonna sign for less than he makes now?

I hope you're right. :lol:
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Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 13 Oct 2025 19:07 pm
MandatoryDenial wrote: 13 Oct 2025 17:43 pm I am going to predict 7 million for 8 years for Broberg. Holloway, that is actually really difficult to predict. Lets see what he does this year, I genuinely think that Thomas money and term is not out of the question. Logan I think would benefit from a prove it contract so I am going to predict a bridge deal 2 million per year.
He's gonna sign for less than he makes now?

I hope you're right. :lol:
Who are you talking about??
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