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Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 11:03 am
by Hofikebrucee
Do the Cards go after Murakami? He looks like the real deal.

Thoughts?

Re: Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 13:59 pm
by HorseTrader
I'd be worried about the strikeouts. No doubt he has power but he's striking out 30+% over there, what will it be in the MLB? We have a power guy who strikesout to much, his is Gorman. Everyone wants him gone. Do we really want to sign another Gorman?

By the way there is another Murakami who pitches for the Giants. You might want to note that you are talking about the hitter.

Re: Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 15:27 pm
by peterman'srealitytour
I’m not buying into any speculation that we can be a player for impact talent from Japan or Korea. Maybe it was the Mozeliak factor, maybe not. We’ve heard Cardinals were interested in Yamamoto, Sasaki, etc. End of the day, we never even made the final cut for those guys. Didn’t even get an interview with Yamamoto after months of talk in Goold and the media about our interest.

Most of those guys end up on the west coast. Imanaga is an exception in Chicago.

Hope it happens. Believe it when you see it.

Re: Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 15:33 pm
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
peterman'srealitytour wrote: 12 Oct 2025 15:27 pm I’m not buying into any speculation that we can be a player for impact talent from Japan or Korea. Maybe it was the Mozeliak factor, maybe not. We’ve heard Cardinals were interested in Yamamoto, Sasaki, etc. End of the day, we never even made the final cut for those guys. Didn’t even get an interview with Yamamoto after months of talk in Goold and the media about our interest.

Most of those guys end up on the west coast. Imanaga is an exception in Chicago.

Hope it happens. Believe it when you see it.
Same. Maybe Chaim delivers in this area...

Re: Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 15:40 pm
by Ozziesfan41
He will be a dodger

Re: Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 15:51 pm
by Red7
HorseTrader wrote: 12 Oct 2025 13:59 pm I'd be worried about the strikeouts. No doubt he has power but he's striking out 30+% over there, what will it be in the MLB? We have a power guy who strikesout to much, his is Gorman. Everyone wants him gone. Do we really want to sign another Gorman?

By the way there is another Murakami who pitches for the Giants. You might want to note that you are talking about the hitter.

What’s his BA (check out the improvement in Teoscar Hernandez and how it’s tied to his BA) walk rate, and OBP? Strikeouts can be an issue, but can also should be taken in context. Look at Schwarber.

Re: Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 15:53 pm
by An Old Friend
Hofikebrucee wrote: 12 Oct 2025 11:03 am Do the Cards go after Murakami? He looks like the real deal.

Thoughts?
Overrated

Re: Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 17:09 pm
by scoutyjones2
Red7 wrote: 12 Oct 2025 15:51 pm
HorseTrader wrote: 12 Oct 2025 13:59 pm I'd be worried about the strikeouts. No doubt he has power but he's striking out 30+% over there, what will it be in the MLB? We have a power guy who strikesout to much, his is Gorman. Everyone wants him gone. Do we really want to sign another Gorman?

By the way there is another Murakami who pitches for the Giants. You might want to note that you are talking about the hitter.

What’s his BA (check out the improvement in Teoscar Hernandez and how it’s tied to his BA) walk rate, and OBP? Strikeouts can be an issue, but can also should be taken in context. Look at Schwarber.
Schwarber is a career 346 OBP

Re: Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 18:38 pm
by Swuhgen
Hofikebrucee wrote: 12 Oct 2025 11:03 am Do the Cards go after Murakami? He looks like the real deal.

Thoughts?
lol.

The Cards won’t even try. He’s signing with a West Coast team. Cards won’t ever have a chance at a big time Asian player.

Re: Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 18:51 pm
by Strummer Jones
Yikes. That K-rate.

And that's in Japan. Dude would make Gorman look like Rod Carew.

Re: Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 19:05 pm
by Red7
scoutyjones2 wrote: 12 Oct 2025 17:09 pm
Red7 wrote: 12 Oct 2025 15:51 pm
HorseTrader wrote: 12 Oct 2025 13:59 pm I'd be worried about the strikeouts. No doubt he has power but he's striking out 30+% over there, what will it be in the MLB? We have a power guy who strikesout to much, his is Gorman. Everyone wants him gone. Do we really want to sign another Gorman?

By the way there is another Murakami who pitches for the Giants. You might want to note that you are talking about the hitter.

What’s his BA (check out the improvement in Teoscar Hernandez and how it’s tied to his BA) walk rate, and OBP? Strikeouts can be an issue, but can also should be taken in context. Look at Schwarber.
Schwarber is a career 346 OBP
And a .500 slug. An .850 career OPS is something I’d take in a heartbeat

Re: Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 19:26 pm
by HorseTrader
Red7 wrote: 12 Oct 2025 15:51 pm
HorseTrader wrote: 12 Oct 2025 13:59 pm I'd be worried about the strikeouts. No doubt he has power but he's striking out 30+% over there, what will it be in the MLB? We have a power guy who strikesout to much, his is Gorman. Everyone wants him gone. Do we really want to sign another Gorman?

By the way there is another Murakami who pitches for the Giants. You might want to note that you are talking about the hitter.

What’s his BA (check out the improvement in Teoscar Hernandez and how it’s tied to his BA) walk rate, and OBP? Strikeouts can be an issue, but can also should be taken in context. Look at Schwarber.
Did you look before you ask? His BA, which I think everyone decided is pretty worthless, is hit or miss. His OBP is fine because he gets walked a lot. SO now the question for you to answer, will he get walked as much in the MLB? My guess is no, if strikeouts go up, then his OBP and BA both go down. Probably along with his slugging.

A better comparable then Hernandez or Schwarber is Seiya Suzuki. He came over from the same league at basically the same age. He was a power hitter, with lower K rates.
Suzuki's last year in Japan his K rate was 16.5%, this year in the MLB it was 25.2%
Wurakami this partial year in Japan 27%, last year 29.6%. So if his norm is around 28% in Japan and jumps 8-9% in MLB...... well it could be ugly. For the record this year Schwarber's was 27.2%.

Basically you have to gamble that Murakami can keep his K rate down to 27% or so. Looking at Suzuki's increase, you have to wonder. One other thing about Murakami, he's not considered an amatuer, so he can get whatever salary is thrown his way.

Re: Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 22:49 pm
by Red7
HorseTrader wrote: 12 Oct 2025 19:26 pm
Red7 wrote: 12 Oct 2025 15:51 pm
HorseTrader wrote: 12 Oct 2025 13:59 pm I'd be worried about the strikeouts. No doubt he has power but he's striking out 30+% over there, what will it be in the MLB? We have a power guy who strikesout to much, his is Gorman. Everyone wants him gone. Do we really want to sign another Gorman?

By the way there is another Murakami who pitches for the Giants. You might want to note that you are talking about the hitter.

What’s his BA (check out the improvement in Teoscar Hernandez and how it’s tied to his BA) walk rate, and OBP? Strikeouts can be an issue, but can also should be taken in context. Look at Schwarber.
Did you look before you ask? His BA, which I think everyone decided is pretty worthless, is hit or miss. His OBP is fine because he gets walked a lot. SO now the question for you to answer, will he get walked as much in the MLB? My guess is no, if strikeouts go up, then his OBP and BA both go down. Probably along with his slugging.

A better comparable then Hernandez or Schwarber is Seiya Suzuki. He came over from the same league at basically the same age. He was a power hitter, with lower K rates.
Suzuki's last year in Japan his K rate was 16.5%, this year in the MLB it was 25.2%
Wurakami this partial year in Japan 27%, last year 29.6%. So if his norm is around 28% in Japan and jumps 8-9% in MLB...... well it could be ugly. For the record this year Schwarber's was 27.2%.

Basically you have to gamble that Murakami can keep his K rate down to 27% or so. Looking at Suzuki's increase, you have to wonder. One other thing about Murakami, he's not considered an amatuer, so he can get whatever salary is thrown his way.
BA is not worthless when comparing contact rates and strikeout rates. It can show how much contact he makes. The improvement in Hernandez last year CAN be seen in his BA. The more hits you have, the greater chance you have of hitting home runs. Of course, looking at BA doesn’t say much. Neither does looking at strikeout rates in isolation.

Re: Who wants Kami-san?

Posted: 13 Oct 2025 07:01 am
by HorseTrader
Red7 wrote: 12 Oct 2025 22:49 pm
HorseTrader wrote: 12 Oct 2025 19:26 pm
Red7 wrote: 12 Oct 2025 15:51 pm
HorseTrader wrote: 12 Oct 2025 13:59 pm I'd be worried about the strikeouts. No doubt he has power but he's striking out 30+% over there, what will it be in the MLB? We have a power guy who strikesout to much, his is Gorman. Everyone wants him gone. Do we really want to sign another Gorman?

By the way there is another Murakami who pitches for the Giants. You might want to note that you are talking about the hitter.

What’s his BA (check out the improvement in Teoscar Hernandez and how it’s tied to his BA) walk rate, and OBP? Strikeouts can be an issue, but can also should be taken in context. Look at Schwarber.
Did you look before you ask? His BA, which I think everyone decided is pretty worthless, is hit or miss. His OBP is fine because he gets walked a lot. SO now the question for you to answer, will he get walked as much in the MLB? My guess is no, if strikeouts go up, then his OBP and BA both go down. Probably along with his slugging.

A better comparable then Hernandez or Schwarber is Seiya Suzuki. He came over from the same league at basically the same age. He was a power hitter, with lower K rates.
Suzuki's last year in Japan his K rate was 16.5%, this year in the MLB it was 25.2%
Wurakami this partial year in Japan 27%, last year 29.6%. So if his norm is around 28% in Japan and jumps 8-9% in MLB...... well it could be ugly. For the record this year Schwarber's was 27.2%.

Basically you have to gamble that Murakami can keep his K rate down to 27% or so. Looking at Suzuki's increase, you have to wonder. One other thing about Murakami, he's not considered an amatuer, so he can get whatever salary is thrown his way.
BA is not worthless when comparing contact rates and strikeout rates. It can show how much contact he makes. The improvement in Hernandez last year CAN be seen in his BA. The more hits you have, the greater chance you have of hitting home runs. Of course, looking at BA doesn’t say much. Neither does looking at strikeout rates in isolation.
I simply don''t see how Hernandez or Schwarber are even remotely good comparables. Neither played in the Japan league. So none of their numbers give any indication of what might happen to Wurakami's numbers moving from Japan to MLB.