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Have to run the runner back to third

Posted: 08 Oct 2025 17:39 pm
by OldRed
Cubs blunder.

Re: Have to run the runner back to third

Posted: 08 Oct 2025 18:47 pm
by Ordinary Man
OldRed wrote: 08 Oct 2025 17:39 pm Cubs blunder.
Agreed. I was yelling at the TV. They let both runners move up. You're supposed to force the runner back to the previous base. They did get away with the blunder. As Casey Stengel once famously said, "doesn't anybody here know how to play this game?"

Re: Have to run the runner back to third

Posted: 08 Oct 2025 21:21 pm
by ScotchMIrish
Pump fake while running him back. Works most of the time and you might get a double play if you time it right.

Re: Have to run the runner back to third

Posted: 09 Oct 2025 07:12 am
by OldRed
Ordinary Man wrote: 08 Oct 2025 18:47 pm
OldRed wrote: 08 Oct 2025 17:39 pm Cubs blunder.
Agreed. I was yelling at the TV. They let both runners move up. You're supposed to force the runner back to the previous base. They did get away with the blunder. As Casey Stengel once famously said, "doesn't anybody here know how to play this game?"
It's fundamentals often overlooked. It could have cost them.

Re: Have to run the runner back to third

Posted: 09 Oct 2025 07:15 am
by sikeston bulldog2
OldRed wrote: 08 Oct 2025 17:39 pm Cubs blunder.
I saw the play. Ball came to catcher who ran runner back towards third. What I don’t know was the other runner already at third.

Re: Have to run the runner back to third

Posted: 09 Oct 2025 08:07 am
by OldRed
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 09 Oct 2025 07:15 am
OldRed wrote: 08 Oct 2025 17:39 pm Cubs blunder.
I saw the play. Ball came to catcher who ran runner back towards third. What I don’t know was the other runner already at third.
The catcher didn't run him back far enough back towards 3rd and gave up the ball too early in the play. The runners advanced when they chased him towards home.

Re: Have to run the runner back to third

Posted: 09 Oct 2025 08:10 am
by sikeston bulldog2
OldRed wrote: 09 Oct 2025 08:07 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 09 Oct 2025 07:15 am
OldRed wrote: 08 Oct 2025 17:39 pm Cubs blunder.
I saw the play. Ball came to catcher who ran runner back towards third. What I don’t know was the other runner already at third.
The catcher didn't run him back far enough back towards 3rd and gave up the ball too early in the play. The runners advanced when they chased him towards home.
Ok. Had he held it much longer he risks not getting him at all. I thought the runner did a great job of taking huge time and ALLOWING the runners to advance.

I thought it a better offensive maneuver that a defensive blunder.

Re: Have to run the runner back to third

Posted: 09 Oct 2025 08:23 am
by OldRed
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 09 Oct 2025 08:10 am
OldRed wrote: 09 Oct 2025 08:07 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 09 Oct 2025 07:15 am
OldRed wrote: 08 Oct 2025 17:39 pm Cubs blunder.
I saw the play. Ball came to catcher who ran runner back towards third. What I don’t know was the other runner already at third.
The catcher didn't run him back far enough back towards 3rd and gave up the ball too early in the play. The runners advanced when they chased him towards home.
Ok. Had he held it much longer he risks not getting him at all. I thought the runner did a great job of taking huge time and ALLOWING the runners to advance.

I thought it a better offensive maneuver that a defensive blunder.
Totally disagree. 4:48 of the highlights.


https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r ... ajaxserp=0

Re: Have to run the runner back to third

Posted: 09 Oct 2025 08:25 am
by OldRed
OldRed wrote: 09 Oct 2025 08:23 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 09 Oct 2025 08:10 am
OldRed wrote: 09 Oct 2025 08:07 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 09 Oct 2025 07:15 am
OldRed wrote: 08 Oct 2025 17:39 pm Cubs blunder.
I saw the play. Ball came to catcher who ran runner back towards third. What I don’t know was the other runner already at third.
The catcher didn't run him back far enough back towards 3rd and gave up the ball too early in the play. The runners advanced when they chased him towards home.
Ok. Had he held it much longer he risks not getting him at all. I thought the runner did a great job of taking huge time and ALLOWING the runners to advance.

I thought it a better offensive maneuver that a defensive blunder.
Totally disagree. 4:48 of the highlights. You will have to wait thru the commercials.


https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r ... ajaxserp=0

Re: Have to run the runner back to third

Posted: 09 Oct 2025 08:31 am
by sikeston bulldog2
OldRed wrote: 08 Oct 2025 17:39 pm Cubs blunder.
Ok I watched replay several times. I agree with you that, if he holds a bit longer, he still has a small amount of time to get thecrunner, and the next runner isn’t even off second yet. You have a point.

But the runner did a credible job in the hot box. It’s not till the runner goes back to home that the next runner advances to third.

If that was a Cardinal in the pickle I’d say great job.