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Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 30 Sep 2025 14:24 pm
by Carp4Cy
How should rounds 2-5 in 2024 and 2025 looked differently if he had been in charge?
Brian Holiday (80) RHP R-R 5-11 203 Oklahoma State University Tampa, Fla. - no minor league stats on BBR ( is he permanently injured?)
Ryan Campos (109) C L-R 5-9 190 Arizona State University Mesa, Ariz. - 22 yo - .696 OPS at A+. Pretty far behind JJW progress wise.
Braden Davis (142) LHP L-L 5-11 175 University of Oklahoma Keller, Texas - 22 yo - 2.85 ERA and 150Ks, good for a pitcher at A/A+ but I wonder how he projects at MLB level at only 5-11?
Ryan Mitchell, OF no stats?
Tanner Franklin, RHP, career reliever 1.50 WHIP in SSS
Jack Gurevitch,1B 21yo 1 HR, .556 OPS at A
Cade Crossland, LHP no stats
Ethan Young, RHP - 21 yo, no stats, reliever in college
Is this what Elite should look like, or might Bloom have changed some of these picks if it were up to him? If so, who might he have taken instead?
And did he run the 2025 draft as "GM" or will next year be his first time to own the eliteness of the draft?
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 30 Sep 2025 14:38 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 14:24 pm
How should rounds 2-5 in 2024 and 2025 looked differently if he had been in charge?
Brian Holiday (80) RHP R-R 5-11 203 Oklahoma State University Tampa, Fla. - no minor league stats on BBR ( is he permanently injured?)
Ryan Campos (109) C L-R 5-9 190 Arizona State University Mesa, Ariz. - 22 yo - .696 OPS at A+. Pretty far behind JJW progress wise.
Braden Davis (142) LHP L-L 5-11 175 University of Oklahoma Keller, Texas - 22 yo - 2.85 ERA and 150Ks, good for a pitcher at A/A+ but I wonder how he projects at MLB level at only 5-11?
Ryan Mitchell, OF no stats?
Tanner Franklin, RHP, career reliever 1.50 WHIP in SSS
Jack Gurevitch,1B 21yo 1 HR, .556 OPS at A
Cade Crossland, LHP no stats
Ethan Young, RHP - 21 yo, no stats, reliever in college
Is this what Elite should look like, or might Bloom have changed some of these picks if it were up to him? If so, who might he have taken instead?
And did he run the 2025 draft as "GM" or will next year be his first time to own the eliteness of the draft?
We will probably never know but I’m sure he had a lot of input on the draft
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 30 Sep 2025 14:43 pm
by dugoutrex
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 14:38 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 14:24 pm
How should rounds 2-5 in 2024 and 2025 looked differently if he had been in charge?
Brian Holiday (80) RHP R-R 5-11 203 Oklahoma State University Tampa, Fla. - no minor league stats on BBR ( is he permanently injured?)
Ryan Campos (109) C L-R 5-9 190 Arizona State University Mesa, Ariz. - 22 yo - .696 OPS at A+. Pretty far behind JJW progress wise.
Braden Davis (142) LHP L-L 5-11 175 University of Oklahoma Keller, Texas - 22 yo - 2.85 ERA and 150Ks, good for a pitcher at A/A+ but I wonder how he projects at MLB level at only 5-11?
Ryan Mitchell, OF no stats?
Tanner Franklin, RHP, career reliever 1.50 WHIP in SSS
Jack Gurevitch,1B 21yo 1 HR, .556 OPS at A
Cade Crossland, LHP no stats
Ethan Young, RHP - 21 yo, no stats, reliever in college
Is this what Elite should look like, or might Bloom have changed some of these picks if it were up to him? If so, who might he have taken instead?
And did he run the 2025 draft as "GM" or will next year be his first time to own the eliteness of the draft?
We will probably never know but I’m sure he had a lot of input on the draft
the simps around here say it was all Bloom if they like it (JJ drafted)
but ... all DeWitt if they don't (keeping Oli)
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 30 Sep 2025 14:52 pm
by Goldfan
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 14:24 pm
How should rounds 2-5 in 2024 and 2025 looked differently if he had been in charge?
Brian Holiday (80) RHP R-R 5-11 203 Oklahoma State University Tampa, Fla. - no minor league stats on BBR ( is he permanently injured?)
Ryan Campos (109) C L-R 5-9 190 Arizona State University Mesa, Ariz. - 22 yo - .696 OPS at A+. Pretty far behind JJW progress wise.
Braden Davis (142) LHP L-L 5-11 175 University of Oklahoma Keller, Texas - 22 yo - 2.85 ERA and 150Ks, good for a pitcher at A/A+ but I wonder how he projects at MLB level at only 5-11?
Ryan Mitchell, OF no stats?
Tanner Franklin, RHP, career reliever 1.50 WHIP in SSS
Jack Gurevitch,1B 21yo 1 HR, .556 OPS at A
Cade Crossland, LHP no stats
Ethan Young, RHP - 21 yo, no stats, reliever in college
Is this what Elite should look like, or might Bloom have changed some of these picks if it were up to him? If so, who might he have taken instead?
And did he run the 2025 draft as "GM" or will next year be his first time to own the eliteness of the draft?
Are you attempting to enlighten the sheep that this easy and automatic “rebuild” with just “fixing” the minors might be a bit more complicated
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 30 Sep 2025 15:00 pm
by 2ninr
Doesn't matter who was in charge. Judging an entire draft as good or bad after a little more than 2 months is kind of silly.
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 30 Sep 2025 15:14 pm
by redbirdfan51
2ninr wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 15:00 pm
Doesn't matter who was in charge. Judging an entire draft as good or bad after a little more than 2 months is kind of silly.
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 30 Sep 2025 20:12 pm
by Whatashame
There’s no way to imagine how something would be different (better/worse) when it never existed. We have no idea who Bloom might have drafted or even if he would have drafted differently. We can only assume that Bloom had lots of input into the last draft or two.
Maybe an indicator might be if Flores is retained or let go. Maybe this will give us insight into how happy Bloom is with the recent drafts.
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 30 Sep 2025 21:33 pm
by Melville
2ninr wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 15:00 pm
Doesn't matter who was in charge. Judging an entire draft as good or bad after a little more than 2 months is kind of silly.
Indeed.
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 30 Sep 2025 21:47 pm
by ramfandan
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 14:24 pm
How should rounds 2-5 in 2024 and 2025 looked differently if he had been in charge?
Brian Holiday (80) RHP R-R 5-11 203 Oklahoma State University Tampa, Fla. - no minor league stats on BBR ( is he permanently injured?)
Ryan Campos (109) C L-R 5-9 190 Arizona State University Mesa, Ariz. - 22 yo - .696 OPS at A+. Pretty far behind JJW progress wise.
Braden Davis (142) LHP L-L 5-11 175 University of Oklahoma Keller, Texas - 22 yo - 2.85 ERA and 150Ks, good for a pitcher at A/A+ but I wonder how he projects at MLB level at only 5-11?
Ryan Mitchell, OF no stats?
Tanner Franklin, RHP, career reliever 1.50 WHIP in SSS
Jack Gurevitch,1B 21yo 1 HR, .556 OPS at A
Cade Crossland, LHP no stats
Ethan Young, RHP - 21 yo, no stats, reliever in college
Is this what Elite should look like, or might Bloom have changed some of these picks if it were up to him? If so, who might he have taken instead?
And did he run the 2025 draft as "GM" or will next year be his first time to own the eliteness of the draft?
Randy Flores ran the 2025 draft not POBO Mo or anyone else.
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 01 Oct 2025 06:30 am
by 2ninr
Melville wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 21:33 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 15:00 pm
Doesn't matter who was in charge. Judging an entire draft as good or bad after a little more than 2 months is kind of silly.
Indeed.
There will be posters judging Bloom after 1 offseason as POBO before spring training starts. I'm sure of it.
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 01 Oct 2025 07:12 am
by 11WSChamps
Unless Bloom can be a real MOB and lead the rotation I don't see him making a difference with this ownership group still here.
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 01 Oct 2025 07:47 am
by Jatalk
Melville wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 21:33 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 15:00 pm
Doesn't matter who was in charge. Judging an entire draft as good or bad after a little more than 2 months is kind of silly.
Indeed.
Judging the actual drafting process is sort of silly. All teams rank the same draftees for the most part. Reality is it is sort of a mechanical process especially in the early rounds.
The real rub comes from how players are developed after they are drafted. Too early still to judge in many cases but you have to have doubts on how this organization develops players.
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 01 Oct 2025 08:03 am
by scoutyjones2
LoL. Groundbreaking statement from Bloom.
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 01 Oct 2025 08:04 am
by Hazelwood72
Jatalk wrote: ↑01 Oct 2025 07:47 am
Melville wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 21:33 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 15:00 pm
Doesn't matter who was in charge. Judging an entire draft as good or bad after a little more than 2 months is kind of silly.
Indeed.
Judging the actual drafting process is sort of silly. All teams rank the same draftees for the most part. Reality is it is sort of a mechanical process especially in the early rounds.
The real rub comes from how players are developed after they are drafted. Too early still to judge in many cases but you have to have doubts on how this organization develops players.
Agree 100%. Our farm system seems to be growing dumb, low baseball IQ players.
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 01 Oct 2025 08:09 am
by 2ninr
Jatalk wrote: ↑01 Oct 2025 07:47 am
Melville wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 21:33 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 15:00 pm
Doesn't matter who was in charge. Judging an entire draft as good or bad after a little more than 2 months is kind of silly.
Indeed.
Judging the actual drafting process is sort of silly. All teams rank the same draftees for the most part. Reality is it is sort of a mechanical process especially in the early rounds.
The real rub comes from how players are developed after they are drafted. Too early still to judge in many cases but you have to have doubts on how this organization develops players.
That's what the conversation needs to be. For instance, I'm positive they completely failed Walker. Is it too late to send him back to AAA and spend a year in a program designed for him to succeed instead of one that's designed for his launch angle to be what they think it should be?
Re: Bloom says "* Must be elite in drafting & acquiring talent"
Posted: 01 Oct 2025 08:25 am
by hotrivets
Selecting the right players requires talent and data which cost money like everything else. Cardinals cut back on minor league spending along with everything else. So why would it improve?