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Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 00:23 am
by swatski
I’m in.

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 03:30 am
by Bully4you
It's so sad.
I watched him yesterday sitting in the booth and just wanted to cry.
He's gone.
End of an era.
Booo Hooo.

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 05:26 am
by butsir01
The end of an error.

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 05:37 am
by sikeston bulldog2
butsir01 wrote: 29 Sep 2025 05:26 am The end of an error.
That’s pretty clever.

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 06:21 am
by WLTFE
:) there are so many anti-Mo-ran threads that even the front office (donkey) kissers can't keep up!... waiting for their whiney posts and excuses...

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 06:25 am
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
butsir01 wrote: 29 Sep 2025 05:26 am The end of an error.
Excellent

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 07:12 am
by Cranny
swatski wrote: 29 Sep 2025 00:23 amI’m in.
I despise Hitler. I don’t despise anyone in the game of baseball. Baseball is just recreation.

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 07:17 am
by WLTFE
WLTFE wrote: 29 Sep 2025 06:21 am :) there are so many anti-Mo-ran threads that even the front office (donkey) kissers can't keep up!... waiting for their whiney posts and excuses...
::crazya:: and we're off! :D

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 07:39 am
by Ace07
I have a FB memory back from 2011 bashing Mozeliak, I've been one of his biggest critics.

He took over a great team, and consistently tried to "bandaid" the team with the payroll he received year in and year out. His free agent signings as a whole were absolutely awful - Dexter Fowler, Mike Leake, Steven Matz, Miles Mikolas, Greg Holland, Luke Gregerson, Brett Cecil, etc.
Trading away the wrong assets has also been highly documented - Alcantara, Gallen, Garcia, Arozarena, etc.

Was it all negative? No. But the negatives FAR outweighed the positives, and we have seen the Cardinal "product" become more and more water downed throughout the years. But the most frustrating thing is ownership kept re-signing him, and there was never any accountability. We would win a weak division, squeak into the playoffs and the ownership was happy enough financially and willing to alienate their fan base for profits.

There's a lot of issues that have surfaced.

The Cardinals "philosophy" of building from within was no longer working. Both their drafting and player development has been trending downward. Mozeliak was just making moves based on the culture/philosophy, but he did a demonstrably poor job. The BFIB kept showing support to mediocre teams for too long and were essentially enablers.

I haven't watched much in the last couple years, but this is the first time I stopped even looking at box scores in 20+ years. It's going to take some time to build up this franchise again, and I'm not sure I trust ownership to do what is necessary. Time will well.

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 07:41 am
by Ace07
Also, Chaim is in. You spelled his name wrong.

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 07:53 am
by 60 year Cardinal fan
I don’t despise him, as I don’t know him personally. However, I often found his expressions to be condescending. I felt that he made many poor decisions trying to patchwork just enough to get by. His horrendous trade and signing mistakes have been discussed many times in addition to the few positive ones. He completely lost me when he fired Shildt after what he had accomplished and replaced him with what we are currently stuck with.

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 08:00 am
by earp
IN !

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 08:23 am
by Rojo Johnson
I don’t despise anyone in the game of baseball, but I do despise fans who make lame-asz excuses for baseball executives who tear down franchises and take the fans’ money.

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 08:51 am
by rockondlouie
Should've been gone years ago, BDWJr's failure to do so is why the franchise is where it is today.

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 10:06 am
by 45s
Cranny wrote: 29 Sep 2025 07:12 am
swatski wrote: 29 Sep 2025 00:23 amI’m in.
I despise Hitler. I don’t despise anyone in the game of baseball. Baseball is just recreation.
I wonder how many of those who "despise" Moz even know the man...???

Re: Chime in if you despise Mo

Posted: 29 Sep 2025 10:08 am
by icon
swatski wrote: 29 Sep 2025 00:23 amI’m in.
I don't. I revile him, though. Detest him. Loathe him.