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Back of napkin math check
Posted: 23 Sep 2025 18:20 pm
by ronnie76
1M less fans than 2023 at an average ticket price of $90. $90M less in ticket revenue alone?
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 23 Sep 2025 18:24 pm
by Goldfan
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:20 pm
1M less fans than 2023 at an average ticket price of $90. $90M less in ticket revenue alone?
So 180mil less in beer sales????? Say it ain’t so ……
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 23 Sep 2025 18:27 pm
by ronnie76
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:24 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:20 pm
1M less fans than 2023 at an average ticket price of $90. $90M less in ticket revenue alone?
So 180mil less in beer sales????? Say it ain’t so ……
What if the front office had even tried this year? Could've easily been a wildcard team and fans wouldn't have been so frustrated. Seems so odd as a business decision.
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 23 Sep 2025 18:31 pm
by bccardsfan
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:27 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:24 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:20 pm
1M less fans than 2023 at an average ticket price of $90. $90M less in ticket revenue alone?
So 180mil less in beer sales????? Say it ain’t so ……
What if the front office had even tried this year? Could've easily been a wildcard team and fans wouldn't have been so frustrated. Seems so odd as a business decision.
Indeed. Sort of like when the brewery lost interest. They are investing in fixing the development system, so they say. The off season will be telling...
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 23 Sep 2025 18:32 pm
by Goldfan
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:27 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:24 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:20 pm
1M less fans than 2023 at an average ticket price of $90. $90M less in ticket revenue alone?
So 180mil less in beer sales????? Say it ain’t so ……
What if the front office had even tried this year? Could've easily been a wildcard team and fans wouldn't have been so frustrated. Seems so odd as a business decision.
They failed to supplement the team when they had a playoff shot for years……then they just gave up completely…..this starts at ownership and cascaded down
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 23 Sep 2025 18:35 pm
by CardsBest
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:27 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:24 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:20 pm
1M less fans than 2023 at an average ticket price of $90. $90M less in ticket revenue alone?
So 180mil less in beer sales????? Say it ain’t so ……
What if the front office had even tried this year? Could've easily been a wildcard team and fans wouldn't have been so frustrated. Seems so odd as a business decision.
I was not that interested in this team this year and wouldn’t have been if they had tried to skimp into the playoffs again. What I would have been interested in is if during the offseason they had traded some of the young redundant players and traded some of the veterans that were not going to be around after the 2026 season. I would have been more interested in a true rebuild. The front office has done nothing to show that they want to make a top team that can win thier division and be a threat to go deep into the playoffs.
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 23 Sep 2025 18:40 pm
by ronnie76
bccardsfan wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:31 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:27 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:24 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:20 pm
1M less fans than 2023 at an average ticket price of $90. $90M less in ticket revenue alone?
So 180mil less in beer sales????? Say it ain’t so ……
What if the front office had even tried this year? Could've easily been a wildcard team and fans wouldn't have been so frustrated. Seems so odd as a business decision.
Indeed. Sort of like when the brewery lost interest. They are investing in fixing the development system, so they say. The off season will be telling...
Yeah, I'm just trying to wrap my head around the business decision. Surely, they didn't expect even close to 3M in attendance based on the direction they took in the offseason. Just purely from a revenue standpoint, they could/should have invested at least $30M in the major league club to keep attendance up and would've actually had a significantly higher operating revenue than the did without spending on the big league team.
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 23 Sep 2025 20:21 pm
by Hoosier59
There is no “ logical” explanation for the way they’ve done things during this season, or leading up to it.
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 23 Sep 2025 20:41 pm
by JuanAgosto
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:27 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:24 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:20 pm
1M less fans than 2023 at an average ticket price of $90. $90M less in ticket revenue alone?
So 180mil less in beer sales????? Say it ain’t so ……
What if the front office had even tried this year? Could've easily been a wildcard team and fans wouldn't have been so frustrated. Seems so odd as a business decision.
Nobody has used the words Mozeliak and try in the same sentence in years. Such a low effort lazy (donkey).
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 23 Sep 2025 22:15 pm
by bretto12
jUST shooting for a team that will squeeze into the playoff is folly. The big market teams will kill you. it will take a couple of years, but build a team that is actually a WS contender. Sneaking into the 3rd play off spot and being bounced does not make a good plan.
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 00:56 am
by Catfish4U
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:20 pm
1M less fans than 2023 at an average ticket price of $90. $90M less in ticket revenue alone?
AVERAGE ticket price of $90? Huh?
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 02:51 am
by 2ninr
CardsBest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:35 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:27 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:24 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:20 pm
1M less fans than 2023 at an average ticket price of $90. $90M less in ticket revenue alone?
So 180mil less in beer sales????? Say it ain’t so ……
What if the front office had even tried this year? Could've easily been a wildcard team and fans wouldn't have been so frustrated. Seems so odd as a business decision.
I was not that interested in this team this year and wouldn’t have been if they had tried to skimp into the playoffs again. What I would have been interested in is if during the offseason they had traded some of the young redundant players and traded some of the veterans that were not going to be around after the 2026 season. I would have been more interested in a true rebuild. The front office has done nothing to show that they want to make a top team that can win thier division and be a threat to go deep into the playoffs.
You wanted Mo re-arranging the roster and trading assets?
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 03:27 am
by mattmitchl44
bretto12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 22:15 pm
jUST shooting for a team that will squeeze into the playoff is folly. The big market teams will kill you. it will take a couple of years, but build a team that is actually a WS contender. Sneaking into the 3rd play off spot and being bounced does not make a good plan.
^This.
This logic of trying to annually be just good enough to sneak into the playoffs is what ultimately landed them in the position they are in. It kept them from trading veteran players when they should have to restock their minor league system, etc.
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 04:48 am
by butsir01
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 20:41 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:27 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:24 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:20 pm
1M less fans than 2023 at an average ticket price of $90. $90M less in ticket revenue alone?
So 180mil less in beer sales????? Say it ain’t so ……
What if the front office had even tried this year? Could've easily been a wildcard team and fans wouldn't have been so frustrated. Seems so odd as a business decision.
Nobody has used the words Mozeliak and try in the same sentence in years. Such a low effort lazy (donkey).
Mo is trying, very trying.
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 06:31 am
by JuanAgosto
butsir01 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 04:48 am
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 20:41 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:27 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:24 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:20 pm
1M less fans than 2023 at an average ticket price of $90. $90M less in ticket revenue alone?
So 180mil less in beer sales????? Say it ain’t so ……
What if the front office had even tried this year? Could've easily been a wildcard team and fans wouldn't have been so frustrated. Seems so odd as a business decision.
Nobody has used the words Mozeliak and try in the same sentence in years. Such a low effort lazy (donkey).
Mo is trying, very trying.
Hahahaha. I stand corrected!
Re: Back of napkin math check
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 06:39 am
by CardsBest
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 02:51 am
CardsBest wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:35 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:27 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:24 pm
ronnie76 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:20 pm
1M less fans than 2023 at an average ticket price of $90. $90M less in ticket revenue alone?
So 180mil less in beer sales????? Say it ain’t so ……
What if the front office had even tried this year? Could've easily been a wildcard team and fans wouldn't have been so frustrated. Seems so odd as a business decision.
I was not that interested in this team this year and wouldn’t have been if they had tried to skimp into the playoffs again. What I would have been interested in is if during the offseason they had traded some of the young redundant players and traded some of the veterans that were not going to be around after the 2026 season. I would have been more interested in a true rebuild. The front office has done nothing to show that they want to make a top team that can win thier division and be a threat to go deep into the playoffs.
You wanted Mo re-arranging the roster and trading assets?
Cardinals have had redundant assets for many years that they wait until they have no value and now they have to many young players and needed to trade some of the redundant ones for other young players. Starting pitching is not good. Mo shouldn't have been there this year. They should have got rid of him after last year and had Chaim making decisions