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If you're wondering if America has reached authoritarianism, think no more.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv ... 236374150/

Make the kiMMel

After direct pressure from the FCC...
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/17/media/ji ... endan-carr

Hopefully he can use the time away to develop some jokes about euthanizing the homeless.

Be careful. This is verboten territory in our local paper ‘of record’.

YOU get a safe spaces, and YOU get a safe space, and, uh, youse…. Not so much.

MikoTython wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 11:25 am Be careful. This is verboten territory in our local paper ‘of record’.

YOU get a safe spaces, and YOU get a safe space, and, uh, youse…. Not so much.

You'd think a Newspaper would be interested in the government pressuring television networks to silence speech that government officials don't like.

Dems and liberals would have a lot more moral authority right now if they hadn't initiated the whole McCarthyism campaign themselves against pro-Palestinian protestors on college campuses.

edwin drood wrote: ↑17 Sep 2025 20:33 pm If you're wondering if America has reached authoritarianism, think no more.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv ... 236374150/

Settle down drama queen. His employer made a decision. He's gone. Cry more.

SRV1990 wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 14:05 pm

edwin drood wrote: ↑17 Sep 2025 20:33 pm If you're wondering if America has reached authoritarianism, think no more.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv ... 236374150/

Settle down drama queen. His employer made a decision. He's gone. Cry more.

His employer made a decision after being threatened by the FCC. (That's the government, FYI)

edwin drood wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 11:59 am

MikoTython wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 11:25 am Be careful. This is verboten territory in our local paper ‘of record’.

YOU get a safe spaces, and YOU get a safe space, and, uh, youse…. Not so much.

You'd think a Newspaper would be interested in the government pressuring television networks to silence speech that government officials don't like.

You mean the paper that silences our speech?

Bighorn66 wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 15:27 pm

edwin drood wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 11:59 am

MikoTython wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 11:25 am Be careful. This is verboten territory in our local paper ‘of record’.

YOU get a safe spaces, and YOU get a safe space, and, uh, youse…. Not so much.

You'd think a Newspaper would be interested in the government pressuring television networks to silence speech that government officials don't like.

You mean the paper that silences our speech?

To be absolutely honest, I sympathize w/ their dilemma. Used to lurk at the anything-and-everything-did-go forum, and it was beyond toxic. To run a forum while enforcing a minimum of civility & decorum, you'd have to hire one of those... what do you call them ?

The irony, however you look at it, now that by any accounting some major moves are being made on freedom of expression in the few major broadcast media outfits left, a topic highly relevant even to this particular forum - we're supposed to keep still about it. They very well might time out/ban me for even this tepid observation. But c'mon man, can't we just make a peep or two when the stuff gets beyond the pale ?

If they (at the FCC) were at all serious (which they 99.98 % aren't) about enforcing an honest-to-goodness fairness doctrine, I think a lot of people on every side would applaud. But that's not exactly what's happening, I don't suspect. We'll get political agenda-driven selective enforcement, as we so far have seen. And to be honest, is such a doctrine even any longer possible of administration ? Probably not, which is a darn shame.

'member when the Biden administration used the full weight of his office to pressure Zuckerberg to censor stories they didn't like?
Any and all 'vid, burisma, laptop, russiagate et al stories were verboten under the threat of the admin and the FBI. Zuck testified as much before congress:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/27/business ... covid-2021

BarkCampbell wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 19:12 pm 'member when the Biden administration used the full weight of his office to pressure Zuckerberg to censor stories they didn't like?
Any and all 'vid, burisma, laptop, russiagate et al stories were verboten under the threat of the admin and the FBI. Zuck testified as much before congress:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/27/business ... covid-2021

So I take it you strongly object to the Kimmel situation.

BarkCampbell wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 19:12 pm 'member when the Biden administration used the full weight of his office to pressure Zuckerberg to censor stories they didn't like?
Any and all 'vid, burisma, laptop, russiagate et al stories were verboten under the threat of the admin and the FBI. Zuck testified as much before congress:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/27/business ... covid-2021

Facebook eliminating posts that are out and out lies is not at all the same as firing someone for telling a truth that Trump doesn't like. We are on the road to a dictatorship where the only part of the Constitution that will still be honored is the Second Amendment.

abuxb wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 22:54 pm

BarkCampbell wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 19:12 pm 'member when the Biden administration used the full weight of his office to pressure Zuckerberg to censor stories they didn't like?
Any and all 'vid, burisma, laptop, russiagate et al stories were verboten under the threat of the admin and the FBI. Zuck testified as much before congress:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/27/business ... covid-2021

Facebook eliminating posts that are out and out lies is not at all the same as firing someone for telling a truth that Trump doesn't like. We are on the road to a dictatorship where the only part of the Constitution that will still be honored is the Second Amendment.

lol. lies, eh? the identical narratives of the press and the previous admin on those topics were lies, alright. The "conspiracy theorists," for all four of those topics were proven to be correct all along. the facebook files, the unclassified FBI file FD-1023, the admission (finally) that the 'vid DID start in a lab. We could go on.
Kimmel wasn't fired for "telling a truth." Telling his audience that Kirk's killer was a right winger was a lie...or that newer buzzword we heard oh so much: "misinformation."

I remember there was cheering from a large group of people (including a certain newspaper) after Trump got booted off all social media sites.
That seemed rather authoritarian.

I also remember a group of Congressional House members pressed cable carriers to drop Newsmax for simply disagreeing with the results of the 2020 election. That seemed rather authoritarian too, considering the fact that the party of those Congressional House members has been questioning Presidential results their party loses for literally decades.

I guess free speech is important to that group of people -- when it's convenient.