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Memphis OF
Posted: 14 Sep 2025 12:33 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
Memphis could have a very interesting OF to start the season next year. I expect the Cardinals to exercise Jordan Walker's last option at the beginning of the season. I also expect them to promote Joshua Baez to start the season. I'm less certain- but they could also promote Chase Davis. He has hit over .300 since the All-Star break and has cut down (somewhat) on his strikeouts. Just an aside, is Chase his given name, or a nickname he earned along the way? (Kidding) There still aren't many extra base hits from Davis. That would give Memphis a 1st round pick in decline (Walker), a 2nd round pick on the rise, and a 1st round pick possibly coming out of decline. A lot of potential there. I hope something materializes.
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 14 Sep 2025 17:56 pm
by HorseTrader
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 12:33 pm
Memphis could have a very interesting OF to start the season next year. I expect the Cardinals to exercise Jordan Walker's last option at the beginning of the season. I also expect them to promote Joshua Baez to start the season. I'm less certain- but they could also promote Chase Davis. He has hit over .300 since the All-Star break and has cut down (somewhat) on his strikeouts. Just an aside, is Chase his given name, or a nickname he earned along the way? (Kidding) There still aren't many extra base hits from Davis. That would give Memphis a 1st round pick in decline (Walker), a 2nd round pick on the rise, and a 1st round pick possibly coming out of decline. A lot of potential there. I hope something materializes.
Either Church or Scott will probably be in Memphis also
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 14 Sep 2025 17:59 pm
by Red7
HorseTrader wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 17:56 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 12:33 pm
Memphis could have a very interesting OF to start the season next year. I expect the Cardinals to exercise Jordan Walker's last option at the beginning of the season. I also expect them to promote Joshua Baez to start the season. I'm less certain- but they could also promote Chase Davis. He has hit over .300 since the All-Star break and has cut down (somewhat) on his strikeouts. Just an aside, is Chase his given name, or a nickname he earned along the way? (Kidding) There still aren't many extra base hits from Davis. That would give Memphis a 1st round pick in decline (Walker), a 2nd round pick on the rise, and a 1st round pick possibly coming out of decline. A lot of potential there. I hope something materializes.
Either Church or Scott will probably be in Memphis also
Or they may both be gone. Neither are needle movers
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 14 Sep 2025 18:33 pm
by Whatashame
I could literally see an infield of
C Crooks/Pages
1B Burleson
2B Wetherholt
SS Winn
3B Donovan
I think that this is completely plausible. What I just can’t imagine is the Cardinals not completely overhauling their outfield. We have went for years with one of the least productive outfields in baseball. Start Walker in AAA next year and let him play everyday and try to develop. We need at least two productive outfielders. I could see Church or Scott ll in the outfield BUT only if the two new productive outfielders are corner outfielders. If one would happen to be a CF?? sorry Church/Scott ll, see ya.
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 14 Sep 2025 22:08 pm
by cardsrmyteam
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 12:33 pm
Memphis could have a very interesting OF to start the season next year. I expect the Cardinals to exercise Jordan Walker's last option at the beginning of the season. I also expect them to promote Joshua Baez to start the season. I'm less certain- but they could also promote Chase Davis. He has hit over .300 since the All-Star break and has cut down (somewhat) on his strikeouts. Just an aside, is Chase his given name, or a nickname he earned along the way? (Kidding) There still aren't many extra base hits from Davis. That would give Memphis a 1st round pick in decline (Walker), a 2nd round pick on the rise, and a 1st round pick possibly coming out of decline. A lot of potential there. I hope something materializes.
Clueless.
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 14 Sep 2025 23:37 pm
by icon
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 12:33 pm
Memphis could have a very interesting OF to start the season next year. I expect the Cardinals to exercise Jordan Walker's last option at the beginning of the season. I also expect them to promote Joshua Baez to start the season. I'm less certain- but they could also promote Chase Davis. He has hit over .300 since the All-Star break and has cut down (somewhat) on his strikeouts. Just an aside, is Chase his given name, or a nickname he earned along the way? (Kidding) There still aren't many extra base hits from Davis. That would give Memphis a 1st round pick in decline (Walker), a 2nd round pick on the rise, and a 1st round pick possibly coming out of decline. A lot of potential there. I hope something materializes.
Davis is a bust, and so is Walker. It's time to admit what we see with our very own eyes.
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 14 Sep 2025 23:48 pm
by Carp4Cy
Red7 wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 17:59 pm
HorseTrader wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 17:56 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 12:33 pm
Memphis could have a very interesting OF to start the season next year. I expect the Cardinals to exercise Jordan Walker's last option at the beginning of the season. I also expect them to promote Joshua Baez to start the season. I'm less certain- but they could also promote Chase Davis. He has hit over .300 since the All-Star break and has cut down (somewhat) on his strikeouts. Just an aside, is Chase his given name, or a nickname he earned along the way? (Kidding) There still aren't many extra base hits from Davis. That would give Memphis a 1st round pick in decline (Walker), a 2nd round pick on the rise, and a 1st round pick possibly coming out of decline. A lot of potential there. I hope something materializes.
Either Church or Scott will probably be in Memphis also
Or they may both be gone. Neither are needle movers
Scott has been our team leader in WAR by at least one major measure. Weird but true.
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 15 Sep 2025 00:22 am
by icon
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 23:48 pm
Red7 wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 17:59 pm
HorseTrader wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 17:56 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 12:33 pm
Memphis could have a very interesting OF to start the season next year. I expect the Cardinals to exercise Jordan Walker's last option at the beginning of the season. I also expect them to promote Joshua Baez to start the season. I'm less certain- but they could also promote Chase Davis. He has hit over .300 since the All-Star break and has cut down (somewhat) on his strikeouts. Just an aside, is Chase his given name, or a nickname he earned along the way? (Kidding) There still aren't many extra base hits from Davis. That would give Memphis a 1st round pick in decline (Walker), a 2nd round pick on the rise, and a 1st round pick possibly coming out of decline. A lot of potential there. I hope something materializes.
Either Church or Scott will probably be in Memphis also
Or they may both be gone. Neither are needle movers
Scott has been our team leader in WAR by at least one major measure. Weird but true.
Yeah, his D is among the best in MLB. 17 OAA and +13 DRS. Too bad he can't hit. That 1.8 fWAR is all D and base running.
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 15 Sep 2025 05:19 am
by 2ninr
Ozzie was worse than Scott. Scott needs to do what Ozzie did. After a year or 2 of chopping down bunting and improving his obp, his bat to ball skills actually improved and his offense was playable.
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 15 Sep 2025 07:12 am
by HorseTrader
2ninr wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025 05:19 am
Ozzie was worse than Scott. Scott needs to do what Ozzie did. After a year or 2 of chopping down bunting and improving his obp, his bat to ball skills actually improved and his offense was playable.
Scott doesn't have the artifcial turf that made Ozzie a success.
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 15 Sep 2025 08:16 am
by 3dender
2ninr wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025 05:19 am
Ozzie was worse than Scott. Scott needs to do what Ozzie did. After a year or 2 of chopping down bunting and improving his obp, his bat to ball skills actually improved and his offense was playable.
People acting like Scott has no hope to improve with the bat after his 1st full year in the league... and while providing a pretty high floor of value with his defense and baserunning. Ridiculous.
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 15 Sep 2025 08:37 am
by Cusecards
Cautiously excited with Joshua Baez!
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 15 Sep 2025 08:39 am
by Talkin' Baseball
icon wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 23:37 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 12:33 pm
Memphis could have a very interesting OF to start the season next year. I expect the Cardinals to exercise Jordan Walker's last option at the beginning of the season. I also expect them to promote Joshua Baez to start the season. I'm less certain- but they could also promote Chase Davis. He has hit over .300 since the All-Star break and has cut down (somewhat) on his strikeouts. Just an aside, is Chase his given name, or a nickname he earned along the way? (Kidding) There still aren't many extra base hits from Davis. That would give Memphis a 1st round pick in decline (Walker), a 2nd round pick on the rise, and a 1st round pick possibly coming out of decline. A lot of potential there. I hope something materializes.
Davis is a bust, and so is Walker. It's time to admit what we see with our very own eyes.
Can't argue with you. They may be, but if you aren't ready to just cut bait with them, AAA is the place for them and I will be interested to see how it goes.
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 15 Sep 2025 08:56 am
by Cardinals4Life
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 23:48 pm
Red7 wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 17:59 pm
HorseTrader wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 17:56 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025 12:33 pm
Memphis could have a very interesting OF to start the season next year. I expect the Cardinals to exercise Jordan Walker's last option at the beginning of the season. I also expect them to promote Joshua Baez to start the season. I'm less certain- but they could also promote Chase Davis. He has hit over .300 since the All-Star break and has cut down (somewhat) on his strikeouts. Just an aside, is Chase his given name, or a nickname he earned along the way? (Kidding) There still aren't many extra base hits from Davis. That would give Memphis a 1st round pick in decline (Walker), a 2nd round pick on the rise, and a 1st round pick possibly coming out of decline. A lot of potential there. I hope something materializes.
Either Church or Scott will probably be in Memphis also
Or they may both be gone. Neither are needle movers
Scott has been our team leader in WAR by at least one major measure. Weird but true.
Which is a perfect example why WAR is a bogus stat.
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 15 Sep 2025 09:28 am
by Cusecards
The Cards OF will certainly be a key focal point of the offseason after the rotation.
With two weeks to go I can’t remember a time when there wasn’t even ONE GIVEN for the OF for the upcoming season:
Noot?- traded?
Burleson?- his bat plays but he could also 1B/DH.
Church?- backup? AAA? Whatever?
Donovan?- LF? IF? Trade bait?
Walker?- AAA Option? Trade bait? Who knows??
Scott?- great defense and speed but plate approach needs a lot of work. Hopefully he can figure out which base to throw to next year?
Anyone on the cusp from AA/AAA???
Quite a mish mosh!
Re: Memphis OF
Posted: 15 Sep 2025 10:19 am
by 2ninr
HorseTrader wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025 07:12 am
2ninr wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025 05:19 am
Ozzie was worse than Scott. Scott needs to do what Ozzie did. After a year or 2 of chopping down bunting and improving his obp, his bat to ball skills actually improved and his offense was playable.
Scott doesn't have the artifcial turf that made Ozzie a success.
Ozzie didn't play all his games on turf. He improved drastically over a period of time. I watched it. To say the turf made him a success is just wrong. Did it help? Sure.