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So you want to trade the less valuable guy for a less valuable pitcher? How many low level pitchers does this team meed? If you want to trade [shirt] for [shirt] trade Burleson.
if he wont accept a trade, release him
I have doubts Arenado is traded. He has a NTC; not sure Cardinals won’t to pay to get rid of him, not sure who wants him. The big decision is how to use him on the roster. I would not put him in everyday line up. It is counterproductive to the organizational goal.
They don’t get it. The pointless discussion will continue until the contract is up unless NA or one of the teams he identified changes their minds. It’s not up to Bloom, but that won’t stop them from saying Bloom HAS to trade him or MUST trade him! As if it will happen because they demand it, with caps lock on.HorseTrader wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 07:49 am They are not going to eat $37 mill. Is he great - no but he is playable. So we are stuck with him, I'd use him more as a bench/utility guy. He said he'd be willing to play 1b, so move him around PH, DH, 3rd, and 1st. After next season he will be owed $15 mill, that you can eat.
Baseball Trade Values has Donovan worth $23.4M and Nootbaar at $20.2M. They are about equal. One of them does need to be traded. They both have 2 years left in arbitration.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑10 Sep 2025 23:54 pmSo you want to trade the less valuable guy for a less valuable pitcher? How many low level pitchers does this team meed? If you want to trade [shirt] for [shirt] trade Burleson.
And for the millionth f’ing time, NA has a NO trade clause. Not a trade clause, a NO trade clause. Doesn’t matter what you want Bloom to do or what he wants to do. Say it with me….NO…TRADE…CLAUSE.
Exactly. Arenado doesn't hurt the team really. But having him, Scott, Winn, and Pages all in the starting lineup does bring us down. We went through this same discussion in Holliday's final two seasons. Holliday himself was fine, but you can have Holliday, Molina, Jay, Moss, Wong, and Piscotty all in the lineup together.HorseTrader wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 07:49 am They are not going to eat $37 mill. Is he great - no but he is playable. So we are stuck with him, I'd use him more as a bench/utility guy. He said he'd be willing to play 1b, so move him around PH, DH, 3rd, and 1st. After next season he will be owed $15 mill, that you can eat.
Nootbaar wont get anything significant. His valuenis lower than last season.
No you don't get it.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 08:15 amThey don’t get it. The pointless discussion will continue until the contract is up unless NA or one of the teams he identified changes their minds. It’s not up to Bloom, but that won’t stop them from saying Bloom HAS to trade him or MUST trade him! As if it will happen because they demand it, with caps lock on.HorseTrader wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 07:49 am
They are not going to eat $37 mill. Is he great - no but he is playable. So we are stuck with him, I'd use him more as a bench/utility guy. He said he'd be willing to play 1b, so move him around PH, DH, 3rd, and 1st. After next season he will be owed $15 mill, that you can eat.
There’s really only one talking point on the NA conundrum. Would the Cardinals relegate him to a bench role?
Maybe, but that sounds close to eating $$ which BDW doesn’t do. Also could be a deterrent to other free agents, especially those over thirty. Which we probably shouldn’t be signing anyway.
Wetherholt is not going to be "blocked".....certainly not by Arenado.11WSChamps wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 11:14 amNo you don't get it.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 08:15 amThey don’t get it. The pointless discussion will continue until the contract is up unless NA or one of the teams he identified changes their minds. It’s not up to Bloom, but that won’t stop them from saying Bloom HAS to trade him or MUST trade him! As if it will happen because they demand it, with caps lock on.HorseTrader wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 07:49 am
They are not going to eat $37 mill. Is he great - no but he is playable. So we are stuck with him, I'd use him more as a bench/utility guy. He said he'd be willing to play 1b, so move him around PH, DH, 3rd, and 1st. After next season he will be owed $15 mill, that you can eat.
There’s really only one talking point on the NA conundrum. Would the Cardinals relegate him to a bench role?
Maybe, but that sounds close to eating $$ which BDW doesn’t do. Also could be a deterrent to other free agents, especially those over thirty. Which we probably shouldn’t be signing anyway.
You geniuses really believe he's going to be relegated to a bench role?
His replacement is basically Wetherholt regardless what position he plays making league minimum.
The money is already lost.
I'm telling what they should do if they're really interested in improving the team as I said in my above post if anyone bothered to read it.
Blocking a potential future piece from developing doesn't do that.
It's not nearly as impossible as you might think to move him and not foot the whole bill if he knows the alternatve.
I said a potential future piece.russellhammond wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 11:53 amWetherholt is not going to be "blocked".....certainly not by Arenado.11WSChamps wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 11:14 amNo you don't get it.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 08:15 amThey don’t get it. The pointless discussion will continue until the contract is up unless NA or one of the teams he identified changes their minds. It’s not up to Bloom, but that won’t stop them from saying Bloom HAS to trade him or MUST trade him! As if it will happen because they demand it, with caps lock on.HorseTrader wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 07:49 am
They are not going to eat $37 mill. Is he great - no but he is playable. So we are stuck with him, I'd use him more as a bench/utility guy. He said he'd be willing to play 1b, so move him around PH, DH, 3rd, and 1st. After next season he will be owed $15 mill, that you can eat.
There’s really only one talking point on the NA conundrum. Would the Cardinals relegate him to a bench role?
Maybe, but that sounds close to eating $$ which BDW doesn’t do. Also could be a deterrent to other free agents, especially those over thirty. Which we probably shouldn’t be signing anyway.
You geniuses really believe he's going to be relegated to a bench role?
His replacement is basically Wetherholt regardless what position he plays making league minimum.
The money is already lost.
I'm telling what they should do if they're really interested in improving the team as I said in my above post if anyone bothered to read it.
Blocking a potential future piece from developing doesn't do that.
It's not nearly as impossible as you might think to move him and not foot the whole bill if he knows the alternatve.