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Why? You can already put up an L for tonight. The guy is toast! I'd rather see a bullpen start than see him start another game this year.

Just riding out the season. They haven't prioritized winning in three years. Any team serious about competing wouldn't:

1. Extend Marmol and remove pressure to win.
2. Trot out a rotation of Fedde, Mikolas, and Pallante.
3. Use Roycroft, Fernandez, or any of these other no-names.
4. Keep Mozeliak in charge of anything.

BARF

This guy CANNOT be in the 2026 rotation.

Why waste another season on yet another player who's JAG?

rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 12:13 pm BARF

This guy CANNOT be in the 2026 rotation.

Why waste another season on yet another player who's JAG?

He needs to be traded or non-tendered so he doesn't get another chance due to inertia

He's 1-8 with 7.42 ERA in the 2nd half.

Insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Eventually rolling a better result only works if your baseline talent is far above your recent suck-age.

Someone like Alcantra might regain their form after 3 months of a 9 ERA. Wainwright did regain his form. But those are CY caliber talents - also with the brains to reinvent themselves. Pal isn't.

janb526 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:44 am Why? You can already put up an L for tonight. The guy is toast! I'd rather see a bullpen start than see him start another game this year.

Please, tell us who should be starting in his place...

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 12:29 pm He's 1-8 with 7.42 ERA in the 2nd half.

Insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Eventually rolling a better result only works if your baseline talent is far above your recent suck-age.

Someone like Alcantra might regain their form after 3 months of a 9 ERA. Wainwright did regain his form. But those are CY caliber talents - also with the brains to reinvent themselves. Pal isn't.

Context???

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 12:22 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 12:13 pm BARF

This guy CANNOT be in the 2026 rotation.

Why waste another season on yet another player who's JAG?

He needs to be traded or non-tendered so he doesn't get another chance due to inertia

He has no trade value carp.

I hope Bloom just DFA's him along w/a lot of other's who have business being on this team in 2026.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 12:35 pm

janb526 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:44 am Why? You can already put up an L for tonight. The guy is toast! I'd rather see a bullpen start than see him start another game this year.

Please, tell us who should be starting in his place...

Rather have seen Pallante do long relief yesterday and graceffo start.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 12:35 pm

janb526 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:44 am Why? You can already put up an L for tonight. The guy is toast! I'd rather see a bullpen start than see him start another game this year.

Please, tell us who should be starting in his place...

Thats the problem
There is no one on the 40 man roster
Bloom has to address this in the off season
Mikalos is gone
We need one stater if you leave what you had this year
Pallante needs to go back to the pen probably

Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:47 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 12:35 pm

janb526 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:44 am Why? You can already put up an L for tonight. The guy is toast! I'd rather see a bullpen start than see him start another game this year.

Please, tell us who should be starting in his place...

Rather have seen Pallante do long relief yesterday and graceffo start.

They both suck equally

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 15:49 pm

Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:47 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 12:35 pm

janb526 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:44 am Why? You can already put up an L for tonight. The guy is toast! I'd rather see a bullpen start than see him start another game this year.

Please, tell us who should be starting in his place...

Rather have seen Pallante do long relief yesterday and graceffo start.

They both suck equally

Probably. But I’d rather see graceffo and give Pallante and mental break.

Are they counting on Roby or Robberse fir next season
They have been hurt this year

rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 12:44 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 12:22 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 12:13 pm BARF

This guy CANNOT be in the 2026 rotation.

Why waste another season on yet another player who's JAG?

He needs to be traded or non-tendered so he doesn't get another chance due to inertia

He has no trade value carp.

I hope Bloom just DFA's him along w/a lot of other's who have business being on this team in 2026.

no business

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 12:04 pm Just riding out the season. They haven't prioritized winning in three years. Any team serious about competing wouldn't:

1. Extend Marmol and remove pressure to win.
2. Trot out a rotation of Fedde, Mikolas, and Pallante.
3. Use Roycroft, Fernandez, or any of these other no-names.
4. Keep Mozeliak in charge of anything.

Spot on. And trot out a line up of kids that can’t do anything at this level.

Braund241 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 19:11 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 12:04 pm Just riding out the season. They haven't prioritized winning in three years. Any team serious about competing wouldn't:

1. Extend Marmol and remove pressure to win.
2. Trot out a rotation of Fedde, Mikolas, and Pallante.
3. Use Roycroft, Fernandez, or any of these other no-names.
4. Keep Mozeliak in charge of anything.

Spot on. And trot out a line up of kids that can’t do anything at this level.

I wonder if some of these young players would perform better in other organizations? Its no secret the Cardinals farm system has been behind for a while.