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Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 04 Sep 2025 21:12 pm
by kyace
River Ryan with Dodgers. Coming off TJ surgery and Dodgers are loaded with starting pitchers. Was one of their top pitching prospects until surgery. He’s 27 so not young but still has 6 years of control. Has pitched well in the majors for a short stint until his injury. Dodgers could use a lh bat so Nootbaar would interest them.
Chase Hampton with the Yankees. Was their top pitching prospect with a fast track to the majors until sidelined with TJ this Spring. He has been passed by at least 5 other young pitchers in the Yankees system so he should be available. Another power pitcher like Ryan with the upside of a #2 starter. Yankees will be in the market for a lh reliever so JoJo would have appeal to them.
I think both of these pitchers would fit the Cards timetable as they could ease them back into starting roles. Also Cards have expendable assets to acquire them.
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 04 Sep 2025 21:20 pm
by Dicktar2023
Somewhere (probably at a Taco Bell), Lance Lynn is checking his phone for any new calls.
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 04 Sep 2025 21:21 pm
by JuanAgosto
This is the type of targets they will probably have. Don't see them chasing a Cease or Alcantara. Cheaper, "prove it" guys.
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 04 Sep 2025 21:48 pm
by imadangman
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025 21:20 pm
Somewhere (probably at a Taco Bell), Lance Lynn is checking his phone for any new calls.
He's in a drive thru somewhere with a jacked up dodge or f250 I'm sure
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 05 Sep 2025 07:05 am
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
imadangman wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025 21:48 pm
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025 21:20 pm
Somewhere (probably at a Taco Bell), Lance Lynn is checking his phone for any new calls.
He's in a drive thru somewhere with a jacked up dodge or f250 I'm sure
Probably passed out in it in the parking lot
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 05 Sep 2025 07:08 am
by imadangman
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025 07:05 am
imadangman wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025 21:48 pm
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025 21:20 pm
Somewhere (probably at a Taco Bell), Lance Lynn is checking his phone for any new calls.
He's in a drive thru somewhere with a jacked up dodge or f250 I'm sure
Probably passed out in it in the parking lot
When he was with the Rangers I said that's the type of guy I could picture at whataburger in the drive thru with a big ol (censored) soda cup
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 05 Sep 2025 07:21 am
by Jatalk
kyace wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025 21:12 pm
River Ryan with Dodgers. Coming off TJ surgery and Dodgers are loaded with starting pitchers. Was one of their top pitching prospects until surgery. He’s 27 so not young but still has 6 years of control. Has pitched well in the majors for a short stint until his injury. Dodgers could use a lh bat so Nootbaar would interest them.
Chase Hampton with the Yankees. Was their top pitching prospect with a fast track to the majors until sidelined with TJ this Spring. He has been passed by at least 5 other young pitchers in the Yankees system so he should be available. Another power pitcher like Ryan with the upside of a #2 starter. Yankees will be in the market for a lh reliever so JoJo would have appeal to them.
I think both of these pitchers would fit the Cards timetable as they could ease them back into starting roles. Also Cards have expendable assets to acquire them.
Thanks for info.
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 05 Sep 2025 07:31 am
by Strummer Jones
I wouldn't mind targeting a guy or two like that. We used to do similar stuff all the time.
Of course, now we don't have a Dave Duncan to really work his magic, but I can't think of a time in the past 30 years where we've gone out and signed a big fish SP and it working out. Leake and Matz weren't big fishes, but were paid as such, and I don't think either really worked.
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 05 Sep 2025 07:31 am
by jcgmoi
that's the type of guy I could picture at whataburger in the drive thru with a big ol (censored) soda cup
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 05 Sep 2025 07:32 am
by JDW
imadangman wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025 21:48 pm
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025 21:20 pm
Somewhere (probably at a Taco Bell), Lance Lynn is checking his phone for any new calls.
He's in a drive thru somewhere with a jacked up dodge or f250 I'm sure
Possibly a dually?
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 05 Sep 2025 07:35 am
by Charles King
Maybe we need to go to a six man rotation next year all the time. This would keep innings down
McGreevy and Liberatore
Plus whom.ever else we get or use
I know Gray may not need to keep his innings down
But at times he is getting lit up
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 05 Sep 2025 07:43 am
by JDW
Charles King wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025 07:35 am
Maybe we need to go to a six man rotation next year all the time. This would keep innings down
McGreevy and Liberatore
Plus whom.ever else we get or use
I know Gray may not need to keep his innings down
But at times he is getting lit up
Well, we get teased by the idea fairly often, but it never seems to get implemented for any significant period of time.
It makes sense to me for the pros of the concept, but the cons must still rule the day.
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 05 Sep 2025 07:55 am
by imadangman
jcgmoi wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025 07:31 am
that's the type of guy I could picture at whataburger in the drive thru with a big ol (censored) soda cup
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Not at all. Lynn just fits the image doesn't he lol.
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 05 Sep 2025 07:57 am
by imadangman
JDW wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025 07:32 am
imadangman wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025 21:48 pm
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025 21:20 pm
Somewhere (probably at a Taco Bell), Lance Lynn is checking his phone for any new calls.
He's in a drive thru somewhere with a jacked up dodge or f250 I'm sure
Possibly a dually?
Yeah maybe so. It would be pretty cool to have a dually with enough power to smoke a set of double tires wouldn't it. I wonder if that exists.
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 05 Sep 2025 08:06 am
by JDW
imadangman wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025 07:57 am
JDW wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025 07:32 am
imadangman wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025 21:48 pm
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025 21:20 pm
Somewhere (probably at a Taco Bell), Lance Lynn is checking his phone for any new calls.
He's in a drive thru somewhere with a jacked up dodge or f250 I'm sure
Possibly a dually?
Yeah maybe so. It would be pretty cool to have a dually with enough power to smoke a set of double tires wouldn't it. I wonder if that exists.
Although I can't say for sure, if it's possible it very likely exist. Maybe going to tractor pull type events would prove it.
Hmm, I'll search on youtube and see if I find anything.
Re: Pitching targets for next year
Posted: 05 Sep 2025 08:18 am
by rbirules
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025 21:21 pm
This is the type of targets they will probably have. Don't see them chasing a Cease or Alcantara. Cheaper, "prove it" guys.
It really needs to be one of those two camps this winter. Pick a direction and commit. If you want to move redundant players and get prospects that align with our window opening in 2027 or 2028 then these targets make sense.
If you want fans to come back in 2026 then take payroll back to 2023 or 2024 levels and sign Cease or King or Suarez and trade for Alcantara or Pablo Lopez, and then sign a bat or two (while still moving some redundant players). It is possible to spend your way out of this in the short term, but I don't think ownership has any appetite for that given their actions and comments recently.