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Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 17:48 pm
by jackclark57
Chaim Bloom and Joe Maddon are good friends from their days in Tampa. They even socialized together and Maddon has spoken glowingly of Bloom over the years.

If Maddon still wants to manage a year or two, it could be in STL next year.

Somebody like that might help some of the youngsters like Walker.

I'm pretty sure Bloom will want to start fresh with a new manager.
from Grok:

Yes, Chaim Bloom and Joe Maddon are friends, based on their long professional collaboration and personal interactions during their overlapping time with the Tampa Bay Rays from 2006 to 2014. Bloom joined the Rays as an intern in 2005 and advanced through roles in baseball operations, working closely with Maddon (the team's manager during much of that period) on player development, scouting, and strategic planning. Maddon has repeatedly described their bond in warm, personal terms in interviews, highlighting Bloom's intellect and their ongoing connection even after both left the organization.

In a 2022 interview, Maddon reflected on their Rays tenure, saying: "He and I had a great relationship and still do have a great relationship. Aliza, his wife, they lived near us in Tampa and they came to our Gasparilla parties. I just watched him bloom, blossom. He was like the guy in the background that eventually just keep going. He’s brilliant. He’s a brilliant guy. He and I had a lot of conversations, all the time. I always sought out his thoughts because he would clarify things." This indicates not just a professional rapport but a social friendship, as their families socialized together (e.g., attending local events like Gasparilla, Tampa's annual pirate-themed festival).

Maddon has also praised Bloom publicly on multiple occasions post-Rays. In 2019, after Bloom was hired by the Boston Red Sox, Maddon called him someone with "the most common sense in any room" and expressed confidence in his future success, noting, "I loved working with both of them [Bloom and Rays GM Erik Neander]." In 2021, Bloom himself referenced drawing lessons from Maddon during challenging times with the Red Sox, quoting advice like "Don’t let it get away. Stay with it and eventually it comes back to you," which underscores the mentor-mentee dynamic that evolved into a lasting advisory friendship.

Their paths diverged after 2014—Maddon left for the Chicago Cubs, and Bloom stayed with the Rays until 2019—but the mutual respect and personal ties persisted. No evidence suggests any falling out, and recent coverage (as of 2025) of Bloom's role with the St. Louis Cardinals does not contradict this; instead, it aligns with Maddon's earlier endorsements of Bloom as a "brilliant" collaborator. While "friends" can be subjective, the combination of shared professional history, family interactions, and ongoing positive public comments substantiates a genuine friendship beyond mere colleagues.

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 17:50 pm
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
jackclark57 wrote: 03 Sep 2025 17:48 pm Chaim Bloom and Joe Maddon are good friends from their days in Tampa. They even socialized together and Maddon has spoken glowingly of Bloom over the years.

If Maddon still wants to manage a year or two, it could be in STL next year.

Somebody like that might help some of the youngsters like Walker.

I'm pretty sure Bloom will want to start fresh with a new manager.
Sign me up

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 17:52 pm
by alw80
no

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 17:54 pm
by Rojo Johnson
I think I’m ok with it. Joe has won a WS. How many has Oli won?

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 17:58 pm
by 11WSChamps
They say if you can't be good be interesting.

Maddon would at least bring the latter because the team isn't going to be very good.

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 17:59 pm
by KeeptheRamsinSTL
He is going to be 72 at the start of next year. Will his health and desire continue? I would prefer someone younger than 72 but not as young as Oli.

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 18:02 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Lord I hope not he’s way overrated he does things so dumb not even oli would do them and yea he won a World Series with the cubs beast of a team but he almost gave that away with his questionable moves. He’s great at self promotion but managing not so much

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 18:09 pm
by Rojo Johnson
KeeptheRamsinSTL wrote: 03 Sep 2025 17:59 pm He is going to be 72 at the start of next year. Will his health and desire continue? I would prefer someone younger than 72 but not as young as Oli.
Hey, I’m 72 and if you leave me alone with Dana Perino, I’ll show you something about health and desire.

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 18:10 pm
by alw80
Rojo Johnson wrote: 03 Sep 2025 17:54 pm I think I’m ok with it. Joe has won a WS. How many has Oli won?
he tried very hard to blow it. but i think even Oli could have won it with the '16 Cubs.

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 18:14 pm
by JuanAgosto
If we dont have to suffer through more "Oli Ball", I hope they hire someone who knows what the hell he's doing. A winner who can lead, manage strategically, and demand a "hard 9" style of baseball.

But im not convinced Johnny boy isn't going to end his career with one last putz decision like giving Oliver pud an extension.

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 18:17 pm
by jackclark57
Even if Chaim likes Marmol, he shouldn't bring him back. He needs to clear the decks and chart a distinctly new direction.

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 18:18 pm
by ecleme22
alw80 wrote: 03 Sep 2025 18:10 pm
Rojo Johnson wrote: 03 Sep 2025 17:54 pm I think I’m ok with it. Joe has won a WS. How many has Oli won?
he tried very hard to blow it. but i think even Oli could have won it with the '16 Cubs.
Maddon did a great job in ‘16.

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 18:18 pm
by blackinkbiz
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Sep 2025 18:02 pm Lord I hope not he’s way overrated he does things so dumb not even oli would do them and yea he won a World Series with the cubs beast of a team but he almost gave that away with his questionable moves. He’s great at self promotion but managing not so much
Does he pull unhittable starters at 75 pitches and try to get 2 innings out of closers with a jammed throwing finger? :roll:

EDIT- wait, actually, was he the manager that DID pull an unhittable starter in the playoffs simply because the lineup was about to rollover for the 3rd time? I remember some manager doing it a year or 2 before Oli did and the whole baseball world was up in arms. lol

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 18:23 pm
by alw80
ecleme22 wrote: 03 Sep 2025 18:18 pm
alw80 wrote: 03 Sep 2025 18:10 pm
Rojo Johnson wrote: 03 Sep 2025 17:54 pm I think I’m ok with it. Joe has won a WS. How many has Oli won?
he tried very hard to blow it. but i think even Oli could have won it with the '16 Cubs.
Maddon did a great job in ‘16.
he had some rough moments in the WS.

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 18:23 pm
by KeeptheRamsinSTL
Rojo Johnson wrote: 03 Sep 2025 18:09 pm
KeeptheRamsinSTL wrote: 03 Sep 2025 17:59 pm He is going to be 72 at the start of next year. Will his health and desire continue? I would prefer someone younger than 72 but not as young as Oli.
Hey, I’m 72 and if you leave me alone with Dana Perino, I’ll show you something about health and desire.
I have nothing against being 72. I am sure that you could last for a while with Dana but could you handle almost every day month after month and night after night with a lot of travel?

Re: Don't rule out Joe Maddon next year ....

Posted: 03 Sep 2025 18:29 pm
by Mort Gage
If the Cardinals were an underperforming win now kind of team you could make a case for Maddon, but this will be a multi-year project.