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I agree Cards are just four Starting pitchers a #1,#2,#3,#4 and four middle relievers and two late inning relievers, and five position players with two power bats away from being a real playoff threat. Oh and a couple bench players.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 16:56 pm is McGreevy who wasn't pitching in St Louis all season. Primary focus during the offseason should be pitching. Starters, long relievers, middle relievers, late inning relievers.
I don't know. He had 0 Ks his last start. He was lucky to only allow 1 run in 6 innings. A pitcher cannot count on that degree of batted ball luck for sustained success.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 16:56 pm is McGreevy who wasn't pitching in St Louis all season. Primary focus during the offseason should be pitching. Starters, long relievers, middle relievers, late inning relievers.
CardsBest wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 17:27 pmI agree Cards are just four Starting pitchers a #1,#2,#3,#4 and four middle relievers and two late inning relievers, and five position players with two power bats away from being a real playoff threat. Oh and a couple bench players.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 16:56 pm is McGreevy who wasn't pitching in St Louis all season. Primary focus during the offseason should be pitching. Starters, long relievers, middle relievers, late inning relievers.
meBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 17:54 pmCardsBest wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 17:27 pmI agree Cards are just four Starting pitchers a #1,#2,#3,#4 and four middle relievers and two late inning relievers, and five position players with two power bats away from being a real playoff threat. Oh and a couple bench players.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 16:56 pm is McGreevy who wasn't pitching in St Louis all season. Primary focus during the offseason should be pitching. Starters, long relievers, middle relievers, late inning relievers.
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Yes but I have noticed given up on Libby and maybe Pallante. Long season for both. They will getScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 16:56 pm is McGreevy who wasn't pitching in St Louis all season. Primary focus during the offseason should be pitching. Starters, long relievers, middle relievers, late inning relievers.
As long as you don't walk many or give up too many hits, you don't need the K. Cards have a decent defense...use them.icon wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 17:32 pmI don't know. He had 0 Ks his last start. He was lucky to only allow 1 run in 6 innings. A pitcher cannot count on that degree of batted ball luck for sustained success.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 16:56 pm is McGreevy who wasn't pitching in St Louis all season. Primary focus during the offseason should be pitching. Starters, long relievers, middle relievers, late inning relievers.
100%. It has been McGreevy/Gray starts that seem to be the only chance we have to win. After yesterday, perhaps its just McGreevy.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 16:56 pm is McGreevy who wasn't pitching in St Louis all season. Primary focus during the offseason should be pitching. Starters, long relievers, middle relievers, late inning relievers.
McFedde is nothing special. Back of the rotation starter at best...ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 16:56 pm is McGreevy who wasn't pitching in St Louis all season. Primary focus during the offseason should be pitching. Starters, long relievers, middle relievers, late inning relievers.
We’re so close! LolCardsBest wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 17:27 pmI agree Cards are just four Starting pitchers a #1,#2,#3,#4 and four middle relievers and two late inning relievers, and five position players with two power bats away from being a real playoff threat. Oh and a couple bench players.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 16:56 pm is McGreevy who wasn't pitching in St Louis all season. Primary focus during the offseason should be pitching. Starters, long relievers, middle relievers, late inning relievers.
BINGOCardinals4Life wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 08:36 am 100%. It has been McGreevy/Gray starts that seem to be the only chance we have to win. After yesterday, perhaps its just McGreevy.
If you don’t strike guys out, you’re gonna give up too many hits.smilinjoefission wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 07:57 amAs long as you don't walk many or give up too many hits, you don't need the K. Cards have a decent defense...use them.icon wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 17:32 pmI don't know. He had 0 Ks his last start. He was lucky to only allow 1 run in 6 innings. A pitcher cannot count on that degree of batted ball luck for sustained success.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 16:56 pm is McGreevy who wasn't pitching in St Louis all season. Primary focus during the offseason should be pitching. Starters, long relievers, middle relievers, late inning relievers.
Giving up hits isn't the end of the world. Mixing in walks with hits is where P's get into trouble. Sure the K is nice, but it isn't the end all-be all of pitching. Throw strikes and make teams get 3 hits in an inning to score a run.An Old Friend wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 11:06 amIf you don’t strike guys out, you’re gonna give up too many hits.smilinjoefission wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 07:57 amAs long as you don't walk many or give up too many hits, you don't need the K. Cards have a decent defense...use them.icon wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 17:32 pmI don't know. He had 0 Ks his last start. He was lucky to only allow 1 run in 6 innings. A pitcher cannot count on that degree of batted ball luck for sustained success.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 16:56 pm is McGreevy who wasn't pitching in St Louis all season. Primary focus during the offseason should be pitching. Starters, long relievers, middle relievers, late inning relievers.