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JDW wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:07 pm He gets some negative press on here, but I think as a tandem or backup C for the 2026 team to start the season wouldn't be a bad choice for the team. Hoping Bernal at some point next season makes it to the show, but at least till then, starting the season with Pages and Crooks would look to be adequate imo.
Love Pozo and his story, and think he would have some value as an additional piece in a trade. A month ago, I might have preferred him over Pages, and granted, if it's Pages getting moved instead of Pozo, ok, the Cards should have a much better feel for that than I do, but it's pretty obvious that at the least Marmol prefers Pages, but I'd guess that's the dominant consensus among other members of the Cards FO.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:25 pm Trade Crooks if you can get pitching in return. Start the season with Pages and Pozo in STL and Bernal in Memphis. Hopefully by mid-season Bernal forces the issue and you can trade one of the two catchers and call him up. I'm not at all mad if they keep Crooks and pair him with Pages. We just have too many catchers and too many left handed hitters. The Cardinals have made it a practice to trade players at low value. I'm trying to stay away from that. Crooks has good value now.

JDW wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:07 pm He gets some negative press on here, but I think as a tandem or backup C for the 2026 team to start the season wouldn't be a bad choice for the team. Hoping Bernal at some point next season makes it to the show, but at least till then, starting the season with Pages and Crooks would look to be adequate imo.
Love Pozo and his story, and think he would have some value as an additional piece in a trade. A month ago, I might have preferred him over Pages, and granted, if it's Pages getting moved instead of Pozo, ok, the Cards should have a much better feel for that than I do, but it's pretty obvious that at the least Marmol prefers Pages, but I'd guess that's the dominant consensus among other members of the Cards FO.

OldRed wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:36 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:25 pm Trade Crooks if you can get pitching in return. Start the season with Pages and Pozo in STL and Bernal in Memphis. Hopefully by mid-season Bernal forces the issue and you can trade one of the two catchers and call him up. I'm not at all mad if they keep Crooks and pair him with Pages. We just have too many catchers and too many left handed hitters. The Cardinals have made it a practice to trade players at low value. I'm trying to stay away from that. Crooks has good value now.

No way. Left-handed hitting catchers with some pop are so difficult to find.

Absolut wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:43 pm

JDW wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:07 pm He gets some negative press on here, but I think as a tandem or backup C for the 2026 team to start the season wouldn't be a bad choice for the team. Hoping Bernal at some point next season makes it to the show, but at least till then, starting the season with Pages and Crooks would look to be adequate imo.
Love Pozo and his story, and think he would have some value as an additional piece in a trade. A month ago, I might have preferred him over Pages, and granted, if it's Pages getting moved instead of Pozo, ok, the Cards should have a much better feel for that than I do, but it's pretty obvious that at the least Marmol prefers Pages, but I'd guess that's the dominant consensus among other members of the Cards FO.

That’s the entire point. He’s fine as a backup. Close
To 400 at bats is a Joke. I’d rather have Willson catch and Burleson play first.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:51 pm

Absolut wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:43 pm

JDW wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:07 pm He gets some negative press on here, but I think as a tandem or backup C for the 2026 team to start the season wouldn't be a bad choice for the team. Hoping Bernal at some point next season makes it to the show, but at least till then, starting the season with Pages and Crooks would look to be adequate imo.
Love Pozo and his story, and think he would have some value as an additional piece in a trade. A month ago, I might have preferred him over Pages, and granted, if it's Pages getting moved instead of Pozo, ok, the Cards should have a much better feel for that than I do, but it's pretty obvious that at the least Marmol prefers Pages, but I'd guess that's the dominant consensus among other members of the Cards FO.

That’s the entire point. He’s fine as a backup. Close
To 400 at bats is a Joke. I’d rather have Willson catch and Burleson play first.

Willson won't be catching anymore.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:51 pm

Absolut wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:43 pm

JDW wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:07 pm He gets some negative press on here, but I think as a tandem or backup C for the 2026 team to start the season wouldn't be a bad choice for the team. Hoping Bernal at some point next season makes it to the show, but at least till then, starting the season with Pages and Crooks would look to be adequate imo.
Love Pozo and his story, and think he would have some value as an additional piece in a trade. A month ago, I might have preferred him over Pages, and granted, if it's Pages getting moved instead of Pozo, ok, the Cards should have a much better feel for that than I do, but it's pretty obvious that at the least Marmol prefers Pages, but I'd guess that's the dominant consensus among other members of the Cards FO.

That’s the entire point. He’s fine as a backup. Close
To 400 at bats is a Joke. I’d rather have Willson catch and Burleson play first.

Willson won't be catching anymore.

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:17 pm Pages framing and pitcher whisperer [nonsense] are vastly overrated on here. He’s JAG.

.230 guy with average pop and average defensive ability. I’m not a fan of the dugout goofiness personally. That became a thing post AP when Waino became one of the defacto team leaders. Really dislike when nonperformers are the goofy guys.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 14:19 pm

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:17 pm Pages framing and pitcher whisperer [nonsense] are vastly overrated on here. He’s JAG.

.230 guy with average pop and average defensive ability. I’m not a fan of the dugout goofiness personally. That became a thing post AP when Waino became one of the defacto team leaders. Really dislike when nonperformers are the goofy guys.

He's more productive than Ivan and actually plays a defensive position fairly well

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 14:19 pm

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:17 pm Pages framing and pitcher whisperer [nonsense] are vastly overrated on here. He’s JAG.

.230 guy with average pop and average defensive ability. I’m not a fan of the dugout goofiness personally. That became a thing post AP when Waino became one of the defacto team leaders. Really dislike when nonperformers are the goofy guys.

He's more productive than Ivan and actually plays a defensive position fairly well

Cusecards wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 14:28 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 14:19 pm

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:17 pm Pages framing and pitcher whisperer [nonsense] are vastly overrated on here. He’s JAG.

.230 guy with average pop and average defensive ability. I’m not a fan of the dugout goofiness personally. That became a thing post AP when Waino became one of the defacto team leaders. Really dislike when nonperformers are the goofy guys.

He's more productive than Ivan and actually plays a defensive position fairly well

I don’t think so

ecleme22 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 14:22 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 14:19 pm

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 12:17 pm Pages framing and pitcher whisperer [nonsense] are vastly overrated on here. He’s JAG.

.230 guy with average pop and average defensive ability. I’m not a fan of the dugout goofiness personally. That became a thing post AP when Waino became one of the defacto team leaders. Really dislike when nonperformers are the goofy guys.

He's more productive than Ivan and actually plays a defensive position fairly well

That’s a dumb thing to say.

Just because PP had a monster August doesn’t mean he’s better than Ivan.