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I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 13:03 pm
by ScotchMIrish
and needs to come out of the game or be skipped in the rotation.
https://www.mlb.com/player/andre-pallan ... &year=2025
Pallante in August 6 starts. 5 of 6 starts he threw 90 pitches. ERA of 9,82 for the month. In today's game score tired and Pallante was clearly losing it but left in the game to give up the 2 run home run. Marmol seems locked into what he's going to do and what's unfolding in front of his eyes are of no consequence. Couldn't pull him at 85 pitches. He had to throw the predetermined 95.
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 13:04 pm
by scoutyjones2
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 13:03 pm
and needs to come out of the game or be skipped in the rotation.
https://www.mlb.com/player/andre-pallan ... &year=2025
Pallante in August 6 starts. 5 of 6 starts he threw 90 pitches. ERA of 9,82 for the month. In today's game score tired and Pallante was clearly losing it but left in the game to give up the 2 run home run. Marmol seems locked into what he's going to do and what's unfolding in front of his eyes are of no consequence.
I'd like to know who you have to pitch the other half of the game? And the next 3 days...
Played 7 straight games with 3 more to go. My math shows 10 games in 10 days. Show your work
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 13:08 pm
by imadangman
It's probably since there's a DH so he can't judge when to pull the pitcher. It's the DH.
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 14:53 pm
by JuanAgosto
When the pitcher tells him he's tired. Oli doesn't figure things out on his own.
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 15:12 pm
by ScotchMIrish
imadangman wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 13:08 pm
It's probably since there's a DH so he can't judge when to pull the pitcher. It's the DH.
The DH is a factor because the manager doesn't pull the pitcher for a pinch hitter when behind which allows a manager to stick to the script.
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 15:14 pm
by bretto12
So may all-knowing and all-seeing baseball geniuses on this site. It is amazing that other organizations don't immediately hire them to manage their teams.
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 16:11 pm
by ScotchMIrish
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 13:04 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 13:03 pm
and needs to come out of the game or be skipped in the rotation.
https://www.mlb.com/player/andre-pallan ... &year=2025
Pallante in August 6 starts. 5 of 6 starts he threw 90 pitches. ERA of 9,82 for the month. In today's game score tired and Pallante was clearly losing it but left in the game to give up the 2 run home run. Marmol seems locked into what he's going to do and what's unfolding in front of his eyes are of no consequence.
I'd like to know who you have to pitch the other half of the game? And the next 3 days...
Played 7 straight games with 3 more to go. My math shows 10 games in 10 days. Show your work
Is every arm in the minor leagues gone? Is every pitcher in the bullpen out of options? Pallante has an ERA for the month of 9.82. It's common to bring up a pitcher for a brief period of time and send someone down,
If Bloom is in charge now I'm not impressed. This is terrible roster management.
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 16:12 pm
by Mr.Snuggleupagus
Worst manager in MLB
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 16:37 pm
by Cardinals4Life
Yep. And not even close.
Dude has no feel for in game decisions. Clueless.
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 17:20 pm
by ramfandan
Oli knows when fatigue is setting in when in between innings , the starting pitcher asks the trainer for a pillow while our offense is taking their at bats.
That's a dead giveaway for Oli .
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 17:21 pm
by Chitownredbird
When he gets a call from on high.
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 17:27 pm
by ramfandan
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 16:11 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 13:04 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 13:03 pm
and needs to come out of the game or be skipped in the rotation.
https://www.mlb.com/player/andre-pallan ... &year=2025
Pallante in August 6 starts. 5 of 6 starts he threw 90 pitches. ERA of 9,82 for the month. In today's game score tired and Pallante was clearly losing it but left in the game to give up the 2 run home run. Marmol seems locked into what he's going to do and what's unfolding in front of his eyes are of no consequence.
I'd like to know who you have to pitch the other half of the game? And the next 3 days...
Played 7 straight games with 3 more to go. My math shows 10 games in 10 days. Show your work
Is every arm in the minor leagues gone? Is every pitcher in the bullpen out of options? Pallante has an ERA for the month of 9.82. It's common to bring up a pitcher for a brief period of time and send someone down,
If Bloom is in charge now I'm not impressed. This is terrible roster management.
Where did you get the idea that Bloom might be in charge now ? Mo's contract as POBO goes thru end of October. Been no indication yet as to if he would step down early.
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 19:03 pm
by ScotchMIrish
ramfandan wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 17:27 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 16:11 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 13:04 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 13:03 pm
and needs to come out of the game or be skipped in the rotation.
https://www.mlb.com/player/andre-pallan ... &year=2025
Pallante in August 6 starts. 5 of 6 starts he threw 90 pitches. ERA of 9,82 for the month. In today's game score tired and Pallante was clearly losing it but left in the game to give up the 2 run home run. Marmol seems locked into what he's going to do and what's unfolding in front of his eyes are of no consequence.
I'd like to know who you have to pitch the other half of the game? And the next 3 days...
Played 7 straight games with 3 more to go. My math shows 10 games in 10 days. Show your work
Is every arm in the minor leagues gone? Is every pitcher in the bullpen out of options? Pallante has an ERA for the month of 9.82. It's common to bring up a pitcher for a brief period of time and send someone down,
If Bloom is in charge now I'm not impressed. This is terrible roster management.
Where did you get the idea that Bloom might be in charge now ? Mo's contract as POBO goes thru end of October. Been no indication yet as to if he would step down early.
It would make sense for at least Bloom to have some input since he is getting a paycheck from the Cardinals and will soon be running the show.
Maybe this is being done so whatever happens next season will look better.
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 20:30 pm
by Bad14
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 13:03 pm
and needs to come out of the game or be skipped in the rotation.
https://www.mlb.com/player/andre-pallan ... &year=2025
Pallante in August 6 starts. 5 of 6 starts he threw 90 pitches. ERA of 9,82 for the month. In today's game score tired and Pallante was clearly losing it but left in the game to give up the 2 run home run. Marmol seems locked into what he's going to do and what's unfolding in front of his eyes are of no consequence. Couldn't pull him at 85 pitches. He had to throw the predetermined 95.
In this case it would be before Pallante throws a pitch
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 20:42 pm
by alw80
Those are FO decisions.
Re: I'd like to hear Marmol discuss when he notices a pitcher is tired
Posted: 31 Aug 2025 21:13 pm
by ScotchMIrish
Bad14 wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 20:30 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025 13:03 pm
and needs to come out of the game or be skipped in the rotation.
https://www.mlb.com/player/andre-pallan ... &year=2025
Pallante in August 6 starts. 5 of 6 starts he threw 90 pitches. ERA of 9,82 for the month. In today's game score tired and Pallante was clearly losing it but left in the game to give up the 2 run home run. Marmol seems locked into what he's going to do and what's unfolding in front of his eyes are of no consequence. Couldn't pull him at 85 pitches. He had to throw the predetermined 95.
In this case it would be before Pallante throws a pitch
Game was tied today. Pallante was clearly tired but he hadn't reached the 95 pitch limit so Marmol leaves him in and the game is lost.
We need the best pitching staff in baseball or a new manager. Easier to get a new manager.