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Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 30 Aug 2025 21:16 pm
by Red7
….oh, wait…

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 30 Aug 2025 21:43 pm
by Rosie's Rule
Cards have flat outplayed a struggling Cincy team and Blake has done a fantastic job with the bullpen.

If I were a Reds fan I would be very disappointed with Tito and their 5 game losing streak at a time the can ill afford it.

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 30 Aug 2025 22:35 pm
by cardinalsfever44
Cards Talk loves it some Tito. 0.5 games ahead of the Cards :D :D :D

Absolute genius.

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 30 Aug 2025 22:43 pm
by JuanAgosto
Anyone who thinks Marmol is a better manager than Francona is either lying to themselves or a complete idiot.

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 30 Aug 2025 23:22 pm
by Red7
Truth be told, Oli did no better job of handling the bullpen tonight than any other night. Those decisions are not his. Who to use and when to use them were decisions made by the collaborative management group hours before game time. I won’t give him any more credit tonight because it worked than I do blame when it doesn’t.

As far as Francona being the better manager, compare his record as the Phillies manager to Marmol’s with the Cardinals. Moreover, some people thought Francona would suddenly perform miracles in Cincinnati. He hasn’t. The Reds record would be very similar if David Bell was the manager. In addition, Francona once again missed time on the bench with health issues. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s one and done.

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 31 Aug 2025 00:33 am
by icon
I'm not fond of Francona or Marmol. Especially Marmol.

All it takes is for the Cardinals to win 3 straight for these types of threads to surface again. Some folks seem to forget the same team just went 6-7 vs. the Rockies, Marlins, Rays and Pirates. And Marmol was the manager for those games.

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 31 Aug 2025 00:57 am
by Ozziesfan41
icon wrote: 31 Aug 2025 00:33 am I'm not fond of Francona or Marmol. Especially Marmol.

All it takes is for the Cardinals to win 3 straight for these types of threads to surface again. Some folks seem to forget the same team just went 6-7 vs. the Rockies, Marlins, Rays and Pirates. And Marmol was the manager for those games.
True story I didn’t see many of their oli is awesome posts then

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 31 Aug 2025 01:29 am
by JuanAgosto
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 31 Aug 2025 00:57 am
icon wrote: 31 Aug 2025 00:33 am I'm not fond of Francona or Marmol. Especially Marmol.

All it takes is for the Cardinals to win 3 straight for these types of threads to surface again. Some folks seem to forget the same team just went 6-7 vs. the Rockies, Marlins, Rays and Pirates. And Marmol was the manager for those games.
True story I didn’t see many of their oli is awesome posts then
I guess "Oli Ball" didn't give them a thrill during that stretch.

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 31 Aug 2025 01:43 am
by Just Whit
icon wrote: 31 Aug 2025 00:33 am I'm not fond of Francona or Marmol. Especially Marmol.

All it takes is for the Cardinals to win 3 straight for these types of threads to surface again. Some folks seem to forget the same team just went 6-7 vs. the Rockies, Marlins, Rays and Pirates. And Marmol was the manager for those games.
They have a good young pitching staff, we don't. :roll:

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 31 Aug 2025 08:05 am
by PadsFS07
Red7 wrote: 30 Aug 2025 23:22 pm Truth be told, Oli did no better job of handling the bullpen tonight than any other night. Those decisions are not his. Who to use and when to use them were decisions made by the collaborative management group hours before game time. I won’t give him any more credit tonight because it worked than I do blame when it doesn’t.

As far as Francona being the better manager, compare his record as the Phillies manager to Marmol’s with the Cardinals. Moreover, some people thought Francona would suddenly perform miracles in Cincinnati. He hasn’t. The Reds record would be very similar if David Bell was the manager. In addition, Francona once again missed time on the bench with health issues. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s one and done.
So he gets no credit for anything but all the blame. Got it.

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 31 Aug 2025 08:22 am
by alw80
Truth is this team has overperformed compared to the level of talent on the team the last two seasons.

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 31 Aug 2025 09:12 am
by rockondlouie
Reds on this date in 2024 before Tito hired:

64 - 72


Reds on this date w/Tito at the helm:

68 - 68

Reds spend little money, can't expect miracles.

+4 game improvement to date after being 6 games over .500 (and a +10 games better at that point than in 2024) before 2 - 8 in their last 10 GP.

Tito is a vastly superior manager to Oli.

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 31 Aug 2025 09:28 am
by Just Whit
rockondlouie wrote: 31 Aug 2025 09:12 am Reds on this date in 2024 before Tito hired:

64 - 72


Reds on this date w/Tito at the helm:

68 - 68

Reds spend little money, can't expect miracles.

+4 game improvement to date after being 6 games over .500 (and a +10 games better at that point than in 2024) before 2 - 8 in their last 10 GP.

Tito is a vastly superior manager to Oli.
God you're pathetic.

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 31 Aug 2025 09:34 am
by 82birds
JuanAgosto wrote: 30 Aug 2025 22:43 pm Anyone who thinks Marmol is a better manager than Francona is either lying to themselves or a complete idiot.
^^^THIS^^^

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 31 Aug 2025 09:47 am
by scoutyjones2
icon wrote: 31 Aug 2025 00:33 am I'm not fond of Francona or Marmol. Especially Marmol.

All it takes is for the Cardinals to win 3 straight for these types of threads to surface again. Some folks seem to forget the same team just went 6-7 vs. the Rockies, Marlins, Rays and Pirates. And Marmol was the manager for those games.
Pirates going to sweep the Red Sux...Fins looking to take 3 of 4 from the Mutts, Rocks swept Dbags after the Lou and split a series with the Dogturds

[shirt] happens

Re: Tito Outmanaged Oli Again Tonight

Posted: 31 Aug 2025 09:48 am
by sdaltons
Most of us wanted Francona in 2012 instead of Matheny.

While I would rather have him (or anyone) in 2025 over Marmol, I don't feel as strongly about it as I did then.