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What is the true Herrera
Posted: 29 Aug 2025 14:48 pm
by imadangman
What jumps off the page to me is only 15 career home runs. That's in 176 games (659 PA).
Is it safe to say Herrera is NOT a power hitter.
Career splits:
Vs RHP .285 .357 .381
Vs LHP .283 .378 .484
2025 splits:
Vs RHP .266 .332 .339
Vs LHP .324 .435 .662
Is he basically a platoon DH against LHP? Looks like he should bat about 7th against RHP.
Maybe Herrera is the first guy to move on from, if you find a team that values him in a trade.
But the question remains, where will the Cardinals find their right-handed hitters?
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 29 Aug 2025 15:02 pm
by MIDMOBIRDTWO
If they keep him he will have to change to left field full time iMO. He is very streaky at bat, and does not have a catcher's arm.
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 29 Aug 2025 15:03 pm
by imadangman
imadangman wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 14:48 pm
Maybe Herrera is the first guy to move on from, if you find a team that values him in a trade.
But the question remains, where will the Cardinals find their right-handed hitters?
Who here thinks Blaze Jordan would hit better than Herrera in 2026. Should the Cardinals plan on him coming north with a good ST? (I see he's sucked at Memphis so far, what's the deal?)
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 29 Aug 2025 15:28 pm
by scoutyjones2
Herrera is another JAG
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 29 Aug 2025 15:29 pm
by Ozziesfan41
imadangman wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 15:03 pm
imadangman wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 14:48 pm
Maybe Herrera is the first guy to move on from, if you find a team that values him in a trade.
But the question remains, where will the Cardinals find their right-handed hitters?
Who here thinks Blaze Jordan would hit better than Herrera in 2026. Should the Cardinals plan on him coming north with a good ST? (I see he's sucked at Memphis so far, what's the deal?)
I don’t think he would
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 29 Aug 2025 15:39 pm
by craviduce
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 15:29 pm
imadangman wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 15:03 pm
imadangman wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 14:48 pm
Maybe Herrera is the first guy to move on from, if you find a team that values him in a trade.
But the question remains, where will the Cardinals find their right-handed hitters?
Who here thinks Blaze Jordan would hit better than Herrera in 2026. Should the Cardinals plan on him coming north with a good ST? (I see he's sucked at Memphis so far, what's the deal?)
I don’t think he would
If Blaze Jordan changes his swing....until then, he's a ground and pounder like the other Jordan in the Org.
Two power hitters that ground and pound the ball....really sad.
I guess from now on, we stay away from players named "Jordan"
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 29 Aug 2025 15:40 pm
by imadangman
craviduce wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 15:39 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 15:29 pm
imadangman wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 15:03 pm
imadangman wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 14:48 pm
Maybe Herrera is the first guy to move on from, if you find a team that values him in a trade.
But the question remains, where will the Cardinals find their right-handed hitters?
Who here thinks Blaze Jordan would hit better than Herrera in 2026. Should the Cardinals plan on him coming north with a good ST? (I see he's sucked at Memphis so far, what's the deal?)
I don’t think he would
If Blaze Jordan changes his swing....until then, he's a ground and pounder like the other Jordan in the Org.
Two power hitters that ground and pound the ball....really sad.
I guess from now on, we stay away from players named "Jordan"
What if Blaze Jordan is like a right-handed Burleson, who won't hit exceptional power but develop into a consistent and steady professional hitter. Is that in the possibilities.
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 29 Aug 2025 15:41 pm
by JohnnyMO
.750 to .800 OPS. That’s fantastic if he can catch half way decently. As a corner outfielder or DH just average.
He either needs to catch next year or trade him to someone who thinks he can catch.
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 29 Aug 2025 15:42 pm
by blackinkbiz
imadangman wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 14:48 pm
What jumps off the page to me is only 15 career home runs. That's in 176 games (659 PA).
Is it safe to say Herrera is NOT a power hitter.
Career splits:
Vs RHP .285 .357 .381
Vs LHP .283 .378 .484
2025 splits:
Vs RHP .266 .332 .339
Vs LHP .324 .435 .662
Is he basically a platoon DH against LHP? Looks like he should bat about 7th against RHP.
Maybe Herrera is the first guy to move on from, if you find a team that values him in a trade.
But the question remains, where will the Cardinals find their right-handed hitters?
Don't forget, he just turned 25 a couple months ago. MANY power hitters don't develop their power until mid-to-late twenties.
I wouldn't give up on him just yet. He's not hurting the lineup, plays solid LF, and will hopefully develop. Unless you got a haul in return, I'd keep him another year or two. He has a solid swing and a good batting eye so I don't see his value dropping, unless via injury that is...
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 29 Aug 2025 15:43 pm
by imadangman
blackinkbiz wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 15:42 pm
imadangman wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 14:48 pm
What jumps off the page to me is only 15 career home runs. That's in 176 games (659 PA).
Is it safe to say Herrera is NOT a power hitter.
Career splits:
Vs RHP .285 .357 .381
Vs LHP .283 .378 .484
2025 splits:
Vs RHP .266 .332 .339
Vs LHP .324 .435 .662
Is he basically a platoon DH against LHP? Looks like he should bat about 7th against RHP.
Maybe Herrera is the first guy to move on from, if you find a team that values him in a trade.
But the question remains, where will the Cardinals find their right-handed hitters?
Don't forget, he just turned 25 a couple months ago. MANY power hitters don't develop their power until mid-to-late twenties.
I wouldn't give up on him just yet. He's not hurting the lineup, plays solid LF, and will hopefully develop. Unless you got a haul in return, I'd keep him another year or two. He has a solid swing and a good batting eye so I don't see his value dropping, unless via injury that is...
We are hurt for RH hitters so that helps his case to stick around
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 30 Aug 2025 08:56 am
by rockondlouie
Since he wants to go back to catching I'd say the "true Hererra" is a trade chip.
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 30 Aug 2025 09:48 am
by bccardsfan
I think he and pretty much everyone else on the roster except Winn and JJ is up for trade discussion. If he is not traded, then he gets a lot of reps in left field in spring training. I think the kid can hit, but he's not going to be your number three or four hitter. The problem is we have a whole roster full of these guys. We don't have one fantastic hitter on the whole team. You need at least one of those guys to Anchor your lineup.
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 30 Aug 2025 10:07 am
by alw80
He's a good hitter with little power. He could be a valuable trade chip this offseason.
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 30 Aug 2025 10:11 am
by imadangman
alw80 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2025 10:07 am
He's a good hitter with little power. He could be a valuable trade chip this offseason.
Jose Martinez 2.0?
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 30 Aug 2025 11:13 am
by jcgmoi
If another team wants to pay up for Herrera, take them up on it. As mentioned up thread, there's no room going forward at catcher.
But barring a nice return I'm in no rush to get rid of maybe the best hitter on a middling offensive team. He's not a slugger but his ISO is a career-high despite his second half problems and it's also higher than most of the starters.
Re: What is the true Herrera
Posted: 30 Aug 2025 11:18 am
by scoutyjones2
jcgmoi wrote: ↑30 Aug 2025 11:13 am
If another team wants to pay up for Herrera, take them up on it. As mentioned up thread, there's no room going forward at catcher.
But barring a nice return I'm in no rush to get rid of maybe the best hitter on a middling offensive team. He's not a slugger but his ISO is a career-high despite his second half problems and it's also higher than most of the starters.
The more ABs he gets, the worse his hitting