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First Base? Willson
Second Base Donavon
Shortstop Winn
Third Base Nolan unless traded
C?
LF ?
CF ?
RF ?
DH Alec or Ivan????

Not much to trade?

I want Jimmy 'The Cat' Hayes back along with Alexa , and Sweeny too. Throw in Al H. too with Scott W. filling in .

Datt is fine to look at but not hit very well.

It's puzzling just to think of all the different possibilities you can have based on where the following players might play: Wetherholt, Gorman, Burleson, Herrera, Donovan.

You could convince both Arenado and Contreras to waive their NTC. It's still a puzzle. Whose your longterm 1B. Who plays 2B, 3B.

I wonder if Bloom is just as bipolar as Cards Talk is on some of these guys (Gorman for example). Probably not. He probably has ideas of how he wants all these pieces to fit. I guess this offseason will tell us a lot about how he sees the team. Even if 2026 is still seen as a rebuilding year, I think he would want to have as many longterm pieces nailed down as he can, at the position he thinks they'll play longterm. You want to start envisioning a core.

timoevans wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 13:09 pm First Base? Burleson/ herrera
Second Base Donavon
Shortstop Winn
Third Base Wetherholt
C?
LF ? Herrera/Burleson
CF ?
RF ?
DH Gorman

Not much to trade?

I guess that's how I'd go to start out, if I could somehow magically get Contreras and Arenado out of the picture. If Herrera absolutely sucks in the outfield, you'd have to have him at 1B/DH. Would you rather have Burleson in LF?

You could have Gorman spot start at all 3 of 1B, 2B, and 3B and have a rotating DH that way.

Nootbaar can receive a knee directly to his rear

Wetherholt 3B, Winn SS, Saggese 2B, Burleson 1B, Crooks C, Herrera DH, Walker RF, Scott CF. Try to get a very productive bat in LF and a couple solid starting pitchers for Donovan, Nootbaar, Contreras, Gorman and Arenado.

with Burley's wrist being compromised, his prime is over...his counting stats regressed this year over last year. I would try to trade him to the Bananas for a pair of stilts

Note ~ I only use the Counting Stats b/c that's the Goal Post that someone uses.

craviduce wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 14:05 pm with Burley's wrist being compromised, his prime is over...his counting stats regressed this year over last year. I would try to trade him to the Bananas for a pair of stilts

Note ~ I only use the Counting Stats b/c that's the Goal Post that someone uses.

You are looney. Stick to reporting minor league games and starting lineups.

Winn

timoevans wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 13:12 pm Datt is fine to look at but not hit very well.

Teach her to pitch, she can wear uniform with cut outs, just teasing what could be seen.

imadangman wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 13:33 pm

timoevans wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 13:09 pm First Base? Burleson/ herrera
Second Base Donavon
Shortstop Winn
Third Base Wetherholt
C?
LF ? Herrera/Burleson
CF ?
RF ?
DH Gorman

Not much to trade?

I guess that's how I'd go to start out, if I could somehow magically get Contreras and Arenado out of the picture. If Herrera absolutely sucks in the outfield, you'd have to have him at 1B/DH. Would you rather have Burleson in LF?

You could have Gorman spot start at all 3 of 1B, 2B, and 3B and have a rotating DH that way.

Nootbaar can receive a knee directly to his rear

Wouldn't you be better off taking advantage of Donovan's defense by having him moving 1, 2, 3, LF and leaving Gorman at one spot (hopefully 3rd or DH). Seems to me you'd have the same offense but better defense.

ramfandan wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 13:11 pm I want Jimmy 'The Cat' Hayes back along with Alexa , and Sweeny too. Throw in Al H. too with Scott W. filling in .

[fork] it I want John Kelly back for the Blues already too.

HorseTrader wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 14:25 pm

imadangman wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 13:33 pm

timoevans wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 13:09 pm First Base? Burleson/ herrera
Second Base Donavon
Shortstop Winn
Third Base Wetherholt
C?
LF ? Herrera/Burleson
CF ?
RF ?
DH Gorman

Not much to trade?

I guess that's how I'd go to start out, if I could somehow magically get Contreras and Arenado out of the picture. If Herrera absolutely sucks in the outfield, you'd have to have him at 1B/DH. Would you rather have Burleson in LF?

You could have Gorman spot start at all 3 of 1B, 2B, and 3B and have a rotating DH that way.

Nootbaar can receive a knee directly to his rear

Wouldn't you be better off taking advantage of Donovan's defense by having him moving 1, 2, 3, LF and leaving Gorman at one spot (hopefully 3rd or DH). Seems to me you'd have the same offense but better defense.

Just a minute ago I was looking at defensive stats. Based on range and fielding%, it looks like Donovan is about the same at 2B or 3B whereas Gorman is clearly better at 2B. Gorman has always passed the eye test to me at 2B too. I'm onboard with Donovan being much better in the infield.

Maybe having Wetherholt try CF would solve the most problems. Afterall, doesn't it seem like an everyday CF is pretty valuable. You can platoon the corner spots alot easier than you can CF.

C Crooks
1B Contreras
2B Gorman
SS Winn
3B Donovan
RF Walker
CF Wetherholt
LF Herrera/Burleson
DH Burleson/Herrera

Bench includes Saggese, Church, Prieto/Fermin etc

Must rid Arenado at all costs. Give him back to Colorado for all I care.

Position Players:

WillyC
Winn
Gorman
Burleson
VSII
Pozo
*Donny
*Hererra
*Noot
*Walker

JJW will be here and starting at 2nd base

*Caveat:
More than one of the above could/should be used as trade bait for a starting pitcher, OF'er, ect.........

Starter:

Gray
Libby
McG

Relievers:

JoJo
Leahy
O'Brien
Svanson

HorseTrader wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 14:25 pm

imadangman wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 13:33 pm

timoevans wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 13:09 pm First Base? Burleson/ herrera
Second Base Donavon
Shortstop Winn
Third Base Wetherholt
C?
LF ? Herrera/Burleson
CF ?
RF ?
DH Gorman

Not much to trade?

I guess that's how I'd go to start out, if I could somehow magically get Contreras and Arenado out of the picture. If Herrera absolutely sucks in the outfield, you'd have to have him at 1B/DH. Would you rather have Burleson in LF?

You could have Gorman spot start at all 3 of 1B, 2B, and 3B and have a rotating DH that way.

Nootbaar can receive a knee directly to his rear

Wouldn't you be better off taking advantage of Donovan's defense by having him moving 1, 2, 3, LF and leaving Gorman at one spot (hopefully 3rd or DH). Seems to me you'd have the same offense but better defense.

Vs RH
CF Wetherholt
3B Donovan
LF Burleson
1B Contreras
2B Gorman
SS Winn
DH Herrera
C Crooks
RF Walker

Vs LH
CF Wetherholt
DH Herrera
LF Burleson
1B Contreras
SS Winn
3B Donovan
2B Saggese
C Crooks
RF Walker

timoevans wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025 13:09 pm First Base? Willson
Second Base Donavon
Shortstop Winn
Third Base Nolan unless traded
C?
LF ?
CF ?
RF ?
DH Alec or Ivan????

Not much to trade?

which Nolan?